What's Better?

[Lone]

Perdu Sickle or Tritons Scythe?

[jimbobsonofgod]

Perdu Sickle or Tritons Scythe?

Gonna go with perdu.

[Faris]

Triton, dude...TRITON.


ok nvm, pedru is better. considering the attack and the delay.

[mdkuser]

I m not a drk but

triton scythe> death scythe +1

death scythe +1 > perdu

which implies that

tritton > perdu.

[Demosthenes11]

perdu voulge vs. augmented ga w/ dmg+5 str+3 da+2

[Shinryuu]

Depends on your hitrate. Usually, Erlking's will be quite the contender but in uncapped ACC situations Perdu might pull out ahead.

[Demosthenes11]

I'm under the impression that if you don't suck at gearing your war, you will be capped with pizza on anything but high hnm

[Shinryuu]

Define high HNM. I've capped ACC with pizza +1 on everything I've fought on WAR, which isn't that much but as for evasion the only things that matter are mob level and arguably mob evasion rank (not sure if there's a mob that has significantly more EVA, maybe like Jailer of Prudence).

[BerenTebogo]

I can't think of a single mob in the game that your average GOOD WAR won't cap on with pizza +1.

If they make like...a raptor HNM that's the level of AV? Yeah. That'll make things a bit different.

[Raen Ryong]

death scythe +1 > perdu

which implies that

tritton > perdu.

No.

Death Scythe +1 ~= Perdu if accuracy is capped. If it's not, Perdu pulls ahead. Note that this comparison is only accurate if the Death Scythe +1 can Turban/Forager's/Blitz and occasionally stronger food with still capped accuracy.

Triton will be closer definitely... probably better than Perdu unless you need the extra 2 accuracy to cap or are fighting something really high level. It's pretty close.

[Cream Soda]

I can't think of a single mob in the game that your average GOOD WAR won't cap on with pizza +1.

If they make like...a raptor HNM that's the level of AV? Yeah. That'll make things a bit different.

I'd like to see a war capped on byakko w/ pizza if you have any parses of that.

[BerenTebogo]

I'd like to see a war capped on byakko w/ pizza if you have any parses of that.

That's a good point. Congrats Byakko on being a steafast pain in my ass all these years.

[Yugl]

I saw a WAR with DMG+6 DA+1 and Additional Fire DMG if that makes you guys want to adjust your theoretical Erlking stuff.

[BerenTebogo]

D6 STR5 DA2 exists. It just doesn't exist for me.

[mdkuser]

No.

Death Scythe +1 ~= Perdu if accuracy is capped. If it's not, Perdu pulls ahead. Note that this comparison is only accurate if the Death Scythe +1 can Turban/Forager's/Blitz and occasionally stronger food with still capped accuracy.

Triton will be closer definitely... probably better than Perdu unless you need the extra 2 accuracy to cap or are fighting something really high level. It's pretty close.

accuracy should not be an issue for any two hander, unless you need 470 acc to cap on something ( unlikely). Also you can use sword strap with death scythe +1 when you can't with perdu.

If you don't sub SAM, death +1 has a 7-hit build with sword strap for less delay than perdu ( perdu needs poelgrip).

If you sub sam, death +1 has a tru 6-hit with pole grip, partial 6-hit with sword strap... perdu is a partial 6-hit with pole

death has better delay more dmg, and better X-hit.

edit: but im not definite on which is really better, i'll do some real maths for myself when I hit 75 drk.

[Shinryuu]

I can't think of a single mob in the game that your average GOOD WAR won't cap on with pizza +1.

If they make like...a raptor HNM that's the level of AV? Yeah. That'll make things a bit different.

Isn't AV not-so-high level? What's the highest level, CoP Wyrms at 90ish or so?

[BerenTebogo]

Idk, probably

[Omnipotent]

Ixion cloak vs Errant body/demon helm +1 for Elegy / Lullaby

[Raen Ryong]

accuracy should not be an issue for any two hander, unless you need 470 acc to cap on something ( unlikely). Also you can use sword strap with death scythe +1 when you can't with perdu.

If you don't sub SAM, death +1 has a 7-hit build with sword strap for less delay than perdu ( perdu needs poelgrip).

If you sub sam, death +1 has a tru 6-hit with pole grip, partial 6-hit with sword strap... perdu is a partial 6-hit with pole

death has better delay more dmg, and better X-hit.

edit: but im not definite on which is really better, i'll do some real maths for myself when I hit 75 drk.

Death Scythe +1 is roughly equal or better when accuracy is capped for the reasons you stated if you can use the Perdu's accuracy for:

i) just basic hitrate when needed
ii) Blitz Ring/Walahra Turban/Forager's Mantle/Bomb Core etc
iii) Sometimes a high-end meat while maintaining capped accuracy

then Perdu is the better Scythe. It also gives you more flexibility during WS which is a minor point but there.

A minor point about the partial 6hit too is that with Rajas/Brutal and /sam, Perdu needs to land 3/4 Guillo hits. Death +1 with Sword Strap needs at least 4.

[mdkuser]

A minor point about the partial 6hit too is that with Rajas/Brutal and /sam, Perdu needs to land 3/4 Guillo hits. Death +1 with Sword Strap needs at least 4.

16.3 TP for melee hit and 1.2 TP for extra ws hits so its 3/4 guillo hits too actually.