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  1. #1381
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    That is true! Wtf was I doing? Okay, scrap that last point

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    Is DRK AF+1 Hands/Feet better than Hecatomb hands/feet for Guillotine? Also does Aurum body have any uses on DRK?

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    Yes

    Sometimes

    5hit with 528 Scythe situationally and/or x hit with various Greatswords.

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    What's the situation because if it gives 5 hit i can use Askar body on diabolic eye instead of atk swaps.

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    Basically worthwhile in situations where your accuracy won't suffer by making the swaps (which you have to make quite a few of;

    You need +39 store TP to have a true 5hit.
    * Less give you a 5hit based on Guillotine hits... varying depending on how much you want to leave on during WS.

    Everyone should have 21 Store TP from /sam, Rajas + Brutal... it's where we find the rest.
    Carbonara = 6
    Aurum Cuirass = 7
    Ecphoria Ring = 1
    Attila's Earring = 1
    Chivalrous Chain = 1
    And probably some other stuff.

    That 37 you have there gives you 5hit with 3/4+ Guillo hits (store tp on them irrelevant in this case). You'll want more obviously if you want to make it more precise.)

    This build will only beat a standard build if you don't give up any accuracy making these swaps, note.

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    Pretty sure I already know the answer to this, but confirm for me:

    Scout's Socks vs. Rutter Sabatons

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    For MNK, Will Cobra unit Subligar: Accuracy+5 "Store TP"+3 Enmity-4
    replace Strike Subligar: Kick Attack+3 Evasion+3

    Or should i stick with Strike..?

  8. #1388
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    Use Cobra Subligar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TacoTaru View Post
    Is DRK AF+1 Hands/Feet better than Hecatomb hands/feet for Guillotine? Also does Aurum body have any uses on DRK?
    Quote Originally Posted by Raen Ryong
    yes
    What about Heca +1? I can still see AF+1 feet winning, but hands? Or will this be dependent on the rest of your setup?

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    Pretty sure I already know the answer to this, but confirm for me:

    Scout's Socks vs. Rutter Sabatons
    Depends, at very high levels of attack, Rutters will win; otherwise, Socks are better. VZX did the math and I think he said the break point is around ~700 RATK; but it probably varies by mob DEF or pDIF or some other crap I don't really keep track of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SathFenrir View Post
    I can't think of a single mob in the game that your average GOOD WAR won't cap on with pizza +1.

    If they make like...a raptor HNM that's the level of AV? Yeah. That'll make things a bit different.
    I can see it now.

    Raptor Jesus

    Drops: Lolbaby, Lolsash, Lolsalvation, Lolcopyofrapture.

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    Hmm. For a NIN, which katana setup is better?

    I presume Mamushito +1 x2 for soloing.

    For PTing:
    Senji/Shusui
    Senji/Perdu
    or any other combinatation?

    Basically the above is 5 dam 3dex lolSB 2 vs 10att (both have +5 acc).

    Wondering if it is worth it to drop 48k into perdu.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uris View Post
    Senji/Perdu
    Afaik

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raen Ryong View Post
    Basically worthwhile in situations where your accuracy won't suffer by making the swaps (which you have to make quite a few of;

    You need +39 store TP to have a true 5hit.
    * Less give you a 5hit based on Guillotine hits... varying depending on how much you want to leave on during WS.

    Everyone should have 21 Store TP from /sam, Rajas + Brutal... it's where we find the rest.
    Carbonara = 6
    Aurum Cuirass = 7
    Ecphoria Ring = 1
    Attila's Earring = 1
    Chivalrous Chain = 1
    And probably some other stuff.

    That 37 you have there gives you 5hit with 3/4+ Guillo hits (store tp on them irrelevant in this case). You'll want more obviously if you want to make it more precise.)

    This build will only beat a standard build if you don't give up any accuracy making these swaps, note.
    One less Store TP means you can also miss 1 Guillo hit. My friend uses:

    input /equip body "Aurum Cuirass";
    input /equip legs "Homam Cosciales";
    input /equip waist "Swift Belt";
    input /equip back "Amemet Mantle +1";
    input /equip feet "Homam Gambieras";
    input /equip hands "Homam Manopolas";
    input /equip head "Walahra Turban";
    input /equip ear1 "Abyssal Earring";
    input /equip ring1 "Rajas Ring";
    input /equip ring2 "Ecphoria Ring";
    input /equip ear2 "Brutal Earring";
    input /equip neck "Chivalrous Chain";
    input /equip ammo "Fire Bomblet";
    input /equip sub "Pole Grip";
    input /equip main "Orichalcum Scythe";

    And I'd say the best option is PCC, Blitz or Toreador, Rose Strap for being able to 2/4 instead of 3/4, assuming capped ACC-ish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Argettio View Post
    Afaik
    Mind some figures to show why 10atk > 5dam 3dex (1 or 2 acc as well)? I was thinking the dam allows higher damage more than 10atk?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uris View Post
    Mind some figures to show why 10atk > 5dam 3dex (1 or 2 acc as well)? I was thinking the dam allows higher damage more than 10atk?
    lower delay? , attack works on both hit, dmg only on 2nd weapon

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    Quote Originally Posted by seiji View Post
    lower delay? , attack works on both hit, dmg only on 2nd weapon
    Pretty much this.

    I haven't done the maths, but it has been done (many times) and the advice always seems to be Senji/Perdu is the best NIN combo (outside of mythics/relics).

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    The lower delay makes Perdu god, even if its only 32 damage. The hidden effect and low delay makes up for low damage, since as Ninja you tend to focus more on DoT, and Perdu allows you to do just that.

    Also just my opinion, but depending on where you merit, you'd use Senji/Perdu anywhere but at birds. If you're like me and have dagger merits, use Blau/Perdu, assuming you also have Evisceration.

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    Actually, nevermind. The answer's self-evident.

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    Ah.. I missed the delay difference.

    Thanks!

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