What's Better?

[PEIPld]

As for the BRD earrings: you should never finish a cast in Loquacious. Start the cast in it, finish the song by swapping to singing earring or even a CHR earring. I do believe singing earring is the second best (de)buff earring?

Ya, I start the cast in Loq, and switch to wind earring atm (since all my debuffs are on wind instruments). Wondering If I'm better off swapping to a delta earring or staying with wind.

[Shinryuu]

Oh hurf durf misinterpret your question, sorry. I think Wind's a bit better. If it works like other stats (but keep in mind BRD's a bit weird due to 2 skills), 2 CHR is at most 2 MACC and 3 wind is... 3?

[FailureMidgard]

Oh hurf durf misinterpret your question, sorry. I think Wind's a bit better. If it works like other stats (but keep in mind BRD's a bit weird due to 2 skills), 2 CHR is at most 2 MACC and 3 wind is... 3?

I don't think 3 wind is 3 macc, if that were the case, then bards with 0 gear would be a good 120 accuracy above top geared red mages, bards with decent gear would be able to push what, 175 accuracy above red mages? I guarantee you that Elegy is not that accurate.

[Limlight]

Yea, his post didn't mention warrior at all, good call.

my sarcasm has been defeated /facepalm

[Nightfyre]

I don't think 3 wind is 3 macc, if that were the case, then bards with 0 gear would be a good 120 accuracy above top geared red mages, bards with decent gear would be able to push what, 175 accuracy above red mages? I guarantee you that Elegy is not that accurate.

Different spells have different base accuracies. It's plausible.

[GeneJackit]

For general nuking purposes, how would these hand items rank

Yigit gages, Goli hands, Vicisious mufflers, genie gages

This would mainly be for SCH nuking, I was thinking Goli wins out against all four, but wanted to see other opinions.

[Yugl]

For general nuking purposes, how would these hand items rank

Yigit gages, Goli hands, Vicisious mufflers, genie gages

This would mainly be for SCH nuking, I was thinking Goli wins out against all four, but wanted to see other opinions.

Mobs that resist: Genie Gages
Mobs that don't resist: Vicious Mufflers or Goliard
Helixes: Yigit

[RyaWHM]

Hexa Strike 20% STR 20% MND:

http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/ff...rinefboots.JPG
Vs.
http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/ff...s_Crackows.jpg

3 STR, 3 DEX, -3 MND ... vs ... 10 MND

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Assuming in favor of Marine, let's say:

STR 97 -> STR 100 (so, reaches a multiple of 5 for WSC)
DEX 57 -> DEX 60 (so, getting +2 ACC instead of +1)
MND 73 -> MND 70 (so, doesn't reach next-lowest x5; no DMG loss)

Could Marine win? Not sure how the remaining elements (fSTR? tiny ATT boost?) fit.

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Assuming in favor of Marduk, let's say:

STR 90 -> STR 93 (so, doesn't reach next x5 for WSC)
DEX 56 -> DEX 59 (so, only gives ACC +1)
MND 75 -> MND 72 (so, does reduce to next-lowest x5)

McDuck is the winner for sure this time?

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I assume Marduk wins regardless, but I know that I never understood 100%, so some confirmation would be wonderful. Thanks in advance!

P.S. - These are still appealing to me:
http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/ff...draGaiters.png

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EDIT: I forgot about "Alpha" or whatever, the 0.83 thing ... not 100% clear on if/where that causes rounding down (?) but I'm sure you get my intent, in defining the two different situations, where Marine has larger/smaller benefit.

[Karbuncle]

This good for anything

http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/l...06-31-43-1.jpg

[Xaereth]

For DRK, is it better to use Perdu, Molione Set or Tred Scythe?

New to DRK and I'm not sure how to gear it up =(

[Wolfknight]

This good for anything

http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/l...06-31-43-1.jpg

blu spells from 50 to ??, assuming no good RSE, and too cheap for garrison hose.

[Argettio]

For DRK, is it better to use Perdu, Molione Set or Tred Scythe?

New to DRK and I'm not sure how to gear it up =(

This is debated a lot (mainly because it is asked a lot)

IMO, Perdu is the best unless you are using Tred for a 5hit build.

[FailureMidgard]

Hexa Strike 20% STR 20% MND:

http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/ff...rinefboots.JPG
Vs.
http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/ff...s_Crackows.jpg

3 STR, 3 DEX, -3 MND ... vs ... 10 MND

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Assuming in favor of Marine, let's say:

STR 97 -> STR 100 (so, reaches a multiple of 5 for WSC)
DEX 57 -> DEX 60 (so, getting +2 ACC instead of +1)
MND 73 -> MND 70 (so, doesn't reach next-lowest x5; no DMG loss)

Could Marine win? Not sure how the remaining elements (fSTR? tiny ATT boost?) fit.

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Assuming in favor of Marduk, let's say:

STR 90 -> STR 93 (so, doesn't reach next x5 for WSC)
DEX 56 -> DEX 59 (so, only gives ACC +1)
MND 75 -> MND 72 (so, does reduce to next-lowest x5)

McDuck is the winner for sure this time?

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I assume Marduk wins regardless, but I know that I never understood 100%, so some confirmation would be wonderful. Thanks in advance!

P.S. - These are still appealing to me:
http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/ff...draGaiters.png

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EDIT: I forgot about "Alpha" or whatever, the 0.83 thing ... not 100% clear on if/where that causes rounding down (?) but I'm sure you get my intent, in defining the two different situations, where Marine has larger/smaller benefit.

First off, depends on the rest of your gear/etc. Your current accuracy matters, your current attack matters, and the rounding matters too. You do need to multiply by .83 before rounding down though. On "average" you get:
3str3dex vs 13mnd.

3str = .83*3*.2 + .25*3 = ~1.25 D, 1.5attk
3dex = 1.5acc, ???crit

13mnd = 13*.2*.83 = 2.16 D

.91 D vs 1.5acc, 1.5attk.
1.5 acc is .75 hit rate, assuming a ~90% accuracy, that's a .83% increase. 1.5 attack @ 400 attack is .37%, so you're looking at ~1.2% increase in dmg before talking about the crit.

Assuming a purgatory mace (41) + 100 str (9+~17) + 70 mnd (~11), you're looking at ~1.16% increase in damage from the .91D.

I would say that it's pretty safe to say on average Marduk loses. That being said, if the STR gives you no fSTR and no jump in WSC, this might not always be the case, so really, it depends on the rest of your setup. Also depends on your accuracy (if you're higher than 90, or even capped, Marduk will gain) and attack.

[Xaereth]

This is debated a lot (mainly because it is asked a lot)

IMO, Perdu is the best unless you are using Tred for a 5hit build.

Thank you :D

[Despain]

Hume THF TADE in the 60's, Marine M Boots or Leaping Boots? (or something else if so state what)

Surprised this didn't get answered, or I missed it.

Leaping Boots for TADE, RSE for SADE.

[Nightfyre]

FM: My understanding of the WSC calculation after looking over VZX's page is that there is a flooring step after the two modifiers are added together, then another after multiplying by alpha.

In this case, WSC = floor(floor(STR*20%+MND*20%)*a)

When you do the math this way, Marduk's is always D+1 after both flooring steps. Marine F Boots cancels itself out in WSC and will only add D+1 if you get an fSTR boost, so 75% of the time. Thus, from a mods consideration only, Marduk's is the superior piece. Is this correct?

That said, it's also a 6-hit crit weaponskill. I'd use Marine for the accuracy and critrate increase from the DEX.

[Shinryuu]

Hydra > Marduk > Marine, delete Hydra for capped ACC.

[Vendict]

INT+7 Magic Acc+2 Magic Atk Bonus +2 Conserve MP+3 Elemental Magic Skill +15
vs
Magic Attack Bonus +5 Elemental Magic Skill +10

for BLM

[Max™]

Wait what?

I'm not a Blm, but I can't see 3 MAB beating 5 skill/7 int/2 macc/cons mp ever.

[Vendict]

Its pretty much Wizards Gloves +1 and Moogle Hat vs Zenith Mitts and Sorcerer's Petasos.