Classes, why and why not to play each one.

**altwight** · 2009-09-12 12:49

My experience as both 23 Assassin and 23 Ranger.

I've always known from the start I was going to be a scout. Determining which path I would take required me to level both to a level high enough for the class to become its own. I chose 23 mainly because I had 2 chainskills and level'n after 23 sucks.

Ranger:

I took ranger up first. After ascending and swapping my main weapon over to a bow I noticed the kill speed was horrible from 10-20. There's a very easy fix for this. Make use of you weapon swap.

The best way I found to kill fast would be to initially pull with my bow using the skills I have and once then mob got too close I would use Focused Evasion followed by a weapon swap -> Counterattack -> Surprise Attack and either the chain swift slash or swap back to my bow and swift shot. This usually kills the enemy up until about 14-15. If not it's nearly dead.

At 16 you get a new shot that ups your damage with bows by a lot, however there's still a downtime after using all your abilities with your bow. So once again it's best to swap to your melee weapons and use the above tactic.

Once you get the Swift Shot chainskill using a bow becomes your main priority. Occasionally there will be downtime between your cooldowns allowing you to swap to your daggers or sword pop focused evasion -> counter attack -> surprise attack. If you do this it's best to swap back to your bow and finish it off with your bow's chainskill.

Leveling in parties was pretty fun as I had snare shot incase we had aggro I could kite one around while damaging it to keep hate. Spike trap helped also.

I had the chance to kill a few Asmodians as ranger and I can say it was pretty fun. The +200 evasion skill rangers get makes a huge difference in PvP. Having the ability to damage from afar is also a major plus.

Assassin:

Assassin was second on the list. After ascending I decided to use Dagger in my mainhand with a Sword in the offhand. At lower levels it's considered best to use a Dagger for your mainhand due to the 5% additional crit you get.

Leveling as an Assassin was pretty simple. It's the same as scout pretty much up until 16. At 13 you get your first pattern skill, Rune Carve. Which can be useful but by the time your patterns get to level 3 the mob is already dead. 16 is the turning point for pattern skills. You get your second pattern skill, Fang Strike at 16, which makes your kill time even faster. For me I would open up with a Hide Surprise Attack -> Focused Evasion -> Chainskill Swift Edge -> Counter Attack -> Rune Carve -> Fang Strike. Repeat once and explode your patterns.

20 Was really nice level as you get your 2nd chainskill which is another pattern skill Sigil Strike further increasing the ability to add pattern strikes to your enemy.

For those who don't know what pattern strikes do I'll explain. Using a pattern skill such as Rune Carve or Fang Strike has a chance to put a debuff on the monster (roughly 50% in my opinion) The debuff can stack to 5. The higher stack you have when you use Pain Rune the more damage the pattern will explode for and the higher chance to stun the enemy.

1Stack = About 40dmg
2Stack = about 100dmg
3stack = 360 dmg
4stack = 400+ dmg
5stack = 400+ dmg

I don't have much PvP experience on my Assassin but I know that dueling clerics 1v1 is pretty tough.

**Falisa** · 2009-09-12 13:06

Originally Posted by altwight

I don't have much PvP experience on my Assassin but I know that dueling clerics 1v1 is pretty tough.

Anything vs clerics 1v1 is pretty tough. :\

**Jotaru** · 2009-09-12 14:16

I duel'd a Chanter on my Cleric and we timed out the duel, both with full HP

**altwight** · 2009-09-12 14:46

Dueling 1v1 against a healer usually results in the healing class winning

**Ramor** · 2009-09-12 15:34

So without going into math theory of Aion yet, is there a general consensus on which is better for overall DPS? for GS vs. Polearm I mean

**Ratatapa** · 2009-09-12 16:19

personally i don'T think that Aion will be like FFXI for weapons.

Gsword and polearm are both nice and i think w/e you like is fine

or like we say in FFXI shit is situationnal

**Fallyn** · 2009-09-12 16:37

well between GSword and Polearm, ive jsut been equipping the better one that i've found. Most of the time i didn't have both an uptodate Gsword and Polearm, so i just alternated between the both so far for the most part. At the moment i'm using a wind breeze spear.

**Elvis** · 2009-09-12 17:57

Originally Posted by Vail

YouTube - Aion - Lv45 Cleric soloing
45 cleric soloing an elite mob, in 1.5 min (elites are mobs made for parties, so they have a TON of HP), hard to tell how much exp she got but it was about 1/5th of a bubble at lv45, in 1.5 min. I'd estimate that at about 500,000 to 700,000 exp for that kill, but I'm not positive (hard to tell from the video and the exp bar)

That's sick.

The best EXP per kill I've gotten was in a trio, on Asmo Lephs in Besulan. 148K per kill for me as a lv43 SIN. It could easily be a duo spot too and a talented Cleric could solo these same mobs and get better exp than the dude on those Indratu mobs. (Leph base in Besu is overall a better spot for the lv40-45 range than Kaidan HQ or Indratu but it's in Asmo so yea...although no Asmos come around the spot I'm talking about!)

I'm really regretting getting that high because now I feel the Aion-fatigue heh. At least it's coming out in a week, so I got time to /anticipate!

I like how you can exp in small-man groupings. It's a lot more fun than FFXI exping for sure.

**Veyron** · 2009-09-12 21:56

Originally Posted by Ramor

So without going into math theory of Aion yet, is there a general consensus on which is better for overall DPS? for GS vs. Polearm I mean

Really depends weapon by weapon. At 26 on my C-Aion Glad, the best weapon I could find was a Life Greatsword as the Polearm hasn't been up since I started looking, so I went with the G.sword.

**Alderaan** · 2009-09-12 22:30

GS's have i believe 100 more base accuracy.

**Vail** · 2009-09-13 00:42

Originally Posted by Alderaan

GS's have i believe 100 more base accuracy.

accuracy is seemly a non-issue in PVE (only mob I've every had accuracy issues on with assassin is the boss of the fire temple, but it's a lv37 elite ranger mob and I was only lv31) PVP it can be important, especially if your against someone higher level or a evasion built ranger/assassin. So keep that in mind.

**fishstix** · 2009-09-13 00:55

me on rng and why I love it :D

YouTube - Tambaku solo

**Ramor** · 2009-09-13 12:43

The little bit of Ranger and Gladiator I've done (all pve) on OB I liked Gladiator way more, of course they're both only about level 15 so it's a relatively limited sample size considering I don't even have all of their skill chains yet. Gladiator was pretty rapetastic in PvE without needing to do too much extra, Ranger wasn't hard but it wasn't as easy for the entire time.

Probably going to roll up a Templar for the actual game though, although Gladiator+Templar both sound like they'd be pretty awful in PvP compared to most classes which makes me a sadpanda

**Vail** · 2009-09-13 14:46

Originally Posted by Ramor

Probably going to roll up a Templar for the actual game though, although Gladiator+Templar both sound like they'd be pretty awful in PvP compared to most classes which makes me a sadpanda

YouTube - Aion Tournament 3vs3 - Final - Asmodian vs Elyos #2
I'm really not seeing how Glad or Templar are bad in PVP (the winning team was Glad/Temp/Sorc)

**Veyron** · 2009-09-13 15:22

Templar is the #1 pvp job. Gladiator is around 3 or 4. They just take quite awhile to come into their prime, around 40ish is when they become crazy :D

Ps. That Gladiator is 1 of the most skilled one's I've seen, here's a few more of their team:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W27kk7zcVOM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cVq0vslQX4&NR=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0sdQw...eature=related

Title says it all on this last video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQhA2C-tVsk

**Priran** · 2009-09-13 15:31

korean-style pvp is an invalid comparison to actual pvp. the rules are generally intended to emulate 1v1 in a bubble, meaning no buffs if your class can't cast them, no fighting mobs beforehand to buff yourself, heavily restricted items, etc.

this never, ever happens outside of a tournament. real pvp is mainly going to be groups against groups, all fighting at the same time. in real pvp, glads and especially temps are generally ignored as people focus on more pressing issues like the opposing clerics and sorcs, the opposing sins and rangers targeting YOUR clerics and sorcs, the asshole SM that keeps fearing your sins and rangers, and the chanters keeping them all buffed.

**Kerberoz** · 2009-09-13 16:46

Ranger is a pain in the ass at low levels, but gets magnitudes better from 16->19->22

**Veyron** · 2009-09-14 00:10

At 25 it hits it's prime, gets so much more awesome

**fishstix** · 2009-09-14 00:33

I hit 25 in OB finally today (yeah I'm slow) and gave soloing the lv28 elite mobs a try. It was really easy, and yeah 100k+ exp lol. I could only kill one of them at the gates with the chopping axe weapon, and the 2 tiny guys. I didn't dare trying those spear rangers >.> hate fighting other rangers/mages.

**Vail** · 2009-09-14 02:39

Originally Posted by Priran

korean-style pvp is an invalid comparison to actual pvp.
this never, ever happens outside of a tournament.

funny cause it's usually western ideals that want 1v1 while Koreans are all about group zerging shit. if they made that tournament 3v3 in all at once instead of 1 person at a time, then every team would have a cleric, and I'm sure some combo of 2 DDs would fit better then any other.

I think the rules they used are fairly good, no set of rules will be perfect for class vs class.

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