Mother Globe: Duo Rdm/nin + Rdm/nin

[Gergall]

he kites Slave 1

Like this?

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[Ratatapa]

LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Fallyn]

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[Marcicus]

Simply amazing.

[Spekkio]

i think he's implying that the slaves will link with MG but MG will not link with the slaves if it does not detect the slave getting hate, much in the same way that a beastmaster mob will not attack a player that pulls its pet, but a pet will invariably attack a player that pulls its master.

if i follow the logic correctly, the slaves scripts function as follows
if(mg has a target)
attack MG's target
else if(self has aggro/hate on a target)
attack that target
else, follow the next slave globe or in the case of the front slave, follow MG.

we also know that mobs that normally share hate have a maximum radius over which they will actually share said hate (see ix'mnk or ix'drg for an example wherein the player can ditch the qn'aern) beyond which the pets will ignore its master's target. assuming that slave globes do not link with each other, only with MG, and that they are not aggressive, in theory it might be possible to do what i think the OP is saying.

PRACTICAL EXPLANATION:
assuming my above statements are correct, let us name MG and its 6 pets as follows
MG<S1<S2<S3<S4<S5<S6
that is to say MG heads the train, slave globe 1 (S1) follows behind MG, slave globe 2 (S2) follows S1, and on back. thus, if the player could pull S1 without linking MG (i had thought this impossible, but maybe MG is sight and not sound or by binding S1 you can pull some weird trickery where MG will leave the slaves behind) the player could hold the whole train with only S1 attacking the player and S2 through S6 just casually following S1 while MG is fought far outside of the shared hate radius and thus the slaves never move to assist MG.

i'm sure someone can explain this better, but it's an interesting idea.

[Killkenny]

How did you pull the lead slave without aggroing MG? Is it simply enough to just RA (MG doesn't link its slaves?) it or is there some weird pathing that allows MG to be out of linking range of the slaves?

[Yugl]

If the other pets only like with the first one, is it possible to one shot the first and have the rest stand still?

[rog]

How did you pull the lead slave without aggroing MG? Is it simply enough to just RA (MG doesn't link its slaves?) it or is there some weird pathing that allows MG to be out of linking range of the slaves?

MG doesn't link with the slaves.

[Killkenny]

MG doesn't link with the slaves.

Cool, sounds like bad programming rather than any sort of glitch then.

Edit, are the slaves themselves not aggresive then?

[Zoxiv]

i dunno we had attempted the pull with RA multiple times and it was very hard to do and a waste of exp what we do from now on, clear room of defenders, one on grav lead slave so its red and slow then sac wait till lead slave has a big distance between MG and then pull Lead slave and kite that till other unweakens and is rdy to solo MG easy only costs 1200 exp and u get a springstone in under an hour, just wanted to know if anybody else knew about this method we have been viewed by people before doing it and were /telling us that they had no idea how we were doing it.

[Thunder]

Why not just do rdm/nin and rdm/blm instead

[Nevex]

I've seen a video of a RDM and BLU duo.

RDM pulls at start and CS+Stoneskin spam to stay alive while BLU casts Maelstrom to oneshot all the slave globes.

Rest of the fight is pretty much like you expect it to be: RDM tanks/dots/occasionaly nukes, BLU casts Regurgitation and kills slave globes as they spawn.

Feather Storm is the spell of choice for this task, as it's the most MP efficient single target ranged spell BLU has. If it's not enough then Jet Stream afterwards should finish the Slave Globe off.

BLU needs a decent nuking setup to be able to oneshot slave globes at start, but the good news is that Maelstrom's damage doesn't decrease as number of targets increase like -ga nukes.

[Spekkio]

i bet rdm and rng would make this idiot proof. shadowbind lead slave, then run those into the porter room and kite there while the rdm pulls it into the other room and kills it there. no mess, no fuss.

[stewie]

I've seen a video of a RDM and BLU duo.

RDM pulls at start and CS+Stoneskin spam to stay alive while BLU casts Maelstrom to oneshot all the slave globes.

Rest of the fight is pretty much like you expect it to be: RDM tanks/dots/occasionaly nukes, BLU casts Regurgitation and kills slave globes as they spawn.

Feather Storm is the spell of choice for this task, as it's the most MP efficient single target ranged spell BLU has. If it's not enough then Jet Stream afterwards should finish the Slave Globe off.

BLU needs a decent nuking setup to be able to oneshot slave globes at start, but the good news is that Maelstrom's damage doesn't decrease as number of targets increase like -ga nukes.

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[drwaffles]

MG has always been duoable by two RDMs, but this is still interesting and leaves a much larger margin for error.

[Aidin]

Slaves not linking to MG sounds like pets not linking to beastmen mobs, unless they see them. The only thing that makes this different is I don't know of any beastmen mobs that detect by sneak.

RDM duo has been easy for a long time, We've always just chainspell+nuke the slaves down when we pull it. This is interesting though.

[zagex]

Slaves not linking to MG sounds like pets not linking to beastmen mobs, unless they see them. The only thing that makes this different is I don't know of any beastmen mobs that detect by sneak.

Fomor bst... not really beastmen but they do have pets and detect by sneak

[Thorny]

RDM RDM can duo without using any glitch or needing any special pulling method that's hard to replicate if they alternate nuking slaves and don't suck. Hurr.

[drwaffles]

RDM RDM can duo without using any glitch or needing any special pulling method that's hard to replicate if they alternate nuking slaves and don't suck. Hurr.

Already said that you smarmy bastard.

[Thunder]

Said it before the both of you; sup.