Mother Globe: Duo Rdm/nin + Rdm/nin

[Byrthnoth]

Someone duo it as BLM + RDM without using this glitch and I'll give you a hug. Srsly, maybe even two.

This does really make it duoable as RDM/NIN + any job with shadows though. I can't really think of any job that couldn't kite the slaves (with only one attacking) indefinitely. It's definitely a /follow glitch. MG moves further than sound linking range away from its slaves, then the first Slave is pulled and the other ones follow it. After that, you just have to deal with the occasional Thundaga III and the boredom of DoTing a monster to death.

It's kind of nice. MG has been the sticking point for lowman Kirin sets for too long. Sucks that you still need two people, but I suppose if you were balsy enough you could claim the first slave with a mule after it was separated from MG and POS hack the mule over to Ulli's side. I used to see RMT do that kind of thing back in the day going from Ulli to MG when they got agro and the monsters would just grind into the wall whatever direction they POS hacked. Would probably still work, and as long as you didn't get autobanned there wouldn't be anyone to report you. Sky is an empty place!

[Thunder]

Blm and Rdm is very doable too.. just as easy rdm/blm and rdm/nin but I only said that earlier to the OP since he duod with a rdm and I didn't know he or his friend could /blm.

Open with aga.. rdm kites and blm takes care of slaves. Maybe the rdm would have to pick up some slaves while the blm rests but I bet it can be done easier than rdm/blm and rdm/nin seeing as how blm's got more hmp and what not.

[Gtype954]

Slaves not linking to MG sounds like pets not linking to beastmen mobs, unless they see them. The only thing that makes this different is I don't know of any beastmen mobs that detect by sneak.

RDM duo has been easy for a long time, We've always just chainspell+nuke the slaves down when we pull it. This is interesting though.

Its like the Xzomit in Sea.
You have Leader Xzomit (who always drops the organ, Will call him LX)
and you have his 2-3 pets. forgot if it was 2 or 3.

so its LX << 1 << 2 << 3.

If you pull LX, the other pets will link too and they all attack you.
However, if you pull a pet and not the leader Xzomit, they don't link. Even if the leader roams back to you while you fighting his pet, he still doesn't aggro at all.

I never knew MG worked like this cause I always ga 3 it but thats cool to know.

[Killkenny]

i bet rdm and rng would make this idiot proof. shadowbind lead slave, then run those into the porter room and kite there while the rdm pulls it into the other room and kills it there. no mess, no fuss.

Slaves keep up and attack me with flee on so I doubt a job without bind/grav can hold a single attacking slave indefinitely (pld or nin probably could but in a protracted fight would easily become an issue).

I know you can duo this as 2x rdm/nin but it does require a fairly decent nuking setup as far as I can remember (last time I tried the other rdm was responsible for nuking down slaves at start and he would always leave them with 1-2% hp after a tier 3.

[Zoxiv]

yeh a job with bind and gravity helps tremendously when kiting the one slave globe though it becomes boring, only put out another method for doing MG anyway since i believe it is alot easier and simple than trying to duo and nuking down the pets. It is also not a glitch >.>

[Yvonne]

It is possible just to have a BLU hold MG with headbutt spams. Tank it backwards or don't engage it and just spam head butt. It's almost a joke watching a BLU hold down MG with spams, though I'm not entirely sure if a RDM can handle the adds.

[Spider-Dan]

Key detail that seems to have been glossed over in discussion:

i dunno we had attempted the pull with RA multiple times and it was very hard to do and a waste of exp what we do from now on, clear room of defenders, one on grav lead slave so its red and slow then sac wait till lead slave has a big distance between MG and then pull Lead slave and kite that till other unweakens and is rdy to solo MG easy only costs 1200 exp and u get a springstone in under an hour, just wanted to know if anybody else knew about this method we have been viewed by people before doing it and were /telling us that they had no idea how we were doing it.

In other words:

1) RDM A casts movement-inhibiting spell on Slave 1
2) RDM A dies (who kills him? probably the entire set. this is the answer to the "why no link?" question: they DO link, and RDM A dies)
3) After RDM A is dead, MG continues Mother Globing, other slaves go back to following Slave 1... who is way over in BFE because of the movement-inhibiting spell that RDM A cast on it
4) RDM B pulls Slave 1 while it's trying to catch up to MG (but still movement restricted and far away from MG)
5) Other slaves follow Slave 1 but link to MG, so they just follow harmlessly as RDM B kites the slaves away
6) RDM A raises, unweakens, and "solos" MG

Furthermore, the idea of binding/gravitying a slave without other aggro is fundamentally flawed, as MG detects magic anyway. Linking really isn't even a factor; MG will aggro you straight up.

[Stellar]

Rdm can handle adds np though it's important the tier 3 one shots em..

And chainspell stoneskin is not needed to survive the initial slave onslaught.. gravity MG so he's not included in the attacks, 28dmg phalanx + tav taco + -50% pdt = pretty laughable slave hits.. (Could even have one of the rdm sub blu, pld or war who does the initial pull, but it's not necessary...)

[cdgreg]

When duoing with rdms how do you deal with MG casting -ga III? If silence works then ok duh, if not do you just range it?

[rog]

When duoing with rdms how do you deal with MG casting -ga III? If silence works then ok duh, if not do you just range it?

You equip mdt/mdb gear.

Furthermore, the idea of binding/gravitying a slave without other aggro is fundamentally flawed, as MG detects magic anyway. Linking really isn't even a factor; MG will aggro you straight up.

They aren't directly on top of each other, so you'd just need to be really careful when positioning yourself. Not to mention you can cast from outside magic aggro range.

[cdgreg]

You equip mdt/mdb gear.

Excellent, thank you. Been toying with the idea of gearing RDM as a tank to invigorate some more fun into the game, I'll have to look into some sets.

[mcb]

Like this?

Spoiler: show

http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i2...kiteslave1.jpg

LMFAO

[Spekkio]

Furthermore, the idea of binding/gravitying a slave without other aggro is fundamentally flawed, as MG detects magic anyway. Linking really isn't even a factor; MG will aggro you straight up.

hence my suggestion of shadowbind. then the rng would have 1 slave globe attacking and 5 more just staring at him, which he should be able to blink tank, no? meanwhile, the rdm knocks out MG easily enough w/o the threat of slaves. since shadowbind is a JA, you can separate the slaves without a single death and still only have 1 attacking.

[Heavencloud]

Excellent, thank you. Been toying with the idea of gearing RDM as a tank to invigorate some more fun into the game, I'll have to look into some sets.

Um you don't need MDB gear to take MG's agas. They're weak as hell, just keep stoneskin up...

[Zoxiv]

i would agree that shadowbind would work but it doesnt MG seems to link slaves on sight like i said earlier we couldnt get pull right as we tried to pull with ranged attack and MG linked with it >.< thats why its easier to grav and sac

[Killkenny]

hence my suggestion of shadowbind. then the rng would have 1 slave globe attacking and 5 more just staring at him, which he should be able to blink tank, no? meanwhile, the rdm knocks out MG easily enough w/o the threat of slaves. since shadowbind is a JA, you can separate the slaves without a single death and still only have 1 attacking.

I doubt very much a rng could realistically blink tank an unslowed/elegied slave for upwards of 45mins with 0 support.

[Linktri]

What is the profit?

[Thunder]

-1,200 exp and a springstone split two ways.

Or you can do it the other way or just a springstone split two ways.

[Stellar]

rdm + blm is one of the easier duo's. A decent blm tier III is guaranteed to one shot the slave and blm conserve MP / resting MP keeps the blm good on MP to handle all slave pops. -ga 3 makes the initial pull easy as well..

[Alexsandro]

Ok so i tried this last night and followed what i thought to be the instructions i get from this and it was fail hardcore. So me and a bud rdm/nin X2 get up there, buff and get ready for the pull. I go in slap grav on the SG#1 come back into the circle room and die on the opposite side so my bud can tag the mini after MG exits. As expected MG heads out at normal speed and the SG#1 falls behind, my bud tags the SG#1 and that works just fine BUT the other 4 SG's just ran right past and followed MG back into the main room. Shortly after a group came in while we were weakened and killed it so we didnt get to retry and see if maybe we made a mistake. I want to try again but 99% sure we did it exactly like mentioned in this thread and they acted like i thought they would, the 1 SG#1 that was attacked came and started hitting my bud while the others went back to MG and assisted her.

If i am getting this wrong please tell me, but im pretty sure i did it like i read it.