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    Quote Originally Posted by vagus
    Jiggy vs Toskala is a moot point. Not sure why he made the deal.
    He made this deal for a few reasons. Firstly, because Giguere will be back with the goal tending coach that he had when Anaheim won the cup and he was playing his best, so that might help his game a little bit. On top of that, they'll have him for this year and next year, with a chance they might resign him after wards. But I doubt they will. The primary reason I think they signed him was to put Gustavsson as the backup, and giving him time to mature into a solid starting goaltender. I mean, he's good now, but he's still not up to snuff. So at the end of next year, not only will they gain the what? 6 or so mil from Giguere to use to pickup 1 or 2 solid players, but they can have Gustavsson step in and take the lead as head goaltender. On top of that, they managed to clear some cap space with the removal of Blake and Toskala, giving them more room to work with.

    This trade wasn't to make the team instantly better, but to help make them better in the next few coming years.

    As far as Calgary is concerned (my team, if people remember from my posts waaaay back when), the trade definitely has some good and bad points. Bad being we lost Phaneuf obviously. He has the potential to be really good, but considering his best season was his rookie campaign 4 years ago, and he's only dropped since then, then it's not too bad. If he does develop into a solid Pronger'esk player, then yeah, sucks for us. But the trade was more so for an immediate impact. The loss of Sjostrom and that defensive prospect do kind of suck, but Freddie wasn't really a game breaking player for us and we are so deep defensively that the loss of 1 prospect won't hurt us as far as I'm concerned. Stajan and Hagman will definitely help our slumping offense, and if you look purely at the numbers from this season, Ian White is playing nearly exactly as well as Phaneuf for the fraction of the price. Mayers is just another tough guy, haha.

    Also, WTF: http://tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=308527

    Jokinen and Prust for Kotalik and Higgins

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    Olli Jokinen is the underperformer of the year. The entire Flames team is, but Jokinen more than anyone else.

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    I've heard it said more than a few times that Jokinen is locker room poison. If he's going to the Rangers I may bench lundqvist the rest of the year as the team will more than likely not do well.

    Edit: I love the beginning of the trade season, it always brings excitement back into hockey as teams make last minutes changes to push their way deep into the playoffs or in toronto's case dump a bunch of toxic assets.

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    I hope the Flames tank even more than they have been in the past few weeks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ishido View Post
    I hope the Flames tank even more than they have been in the past few weeks.
    ^
    This. A hundred times this.

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    Haha, gotta love the Vancouver and Colorado love.

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    I am a Wings fan though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ishido View Post
    I hope the Flames tank even more than they have been in the past few weeks.
    We'd have to move to Edmonton for that to happen.

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    All I care about Jokinen coming to the Rangers is it gets Kotalik's contract off the books!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oxyminus View Post
    All I care about Jokinen coming to the Rangers is it gets Kotalik's contract off the books!
    Room for Kovalchuk :3

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ishido
    I am a Wings fan though.
    Ahhh, I see I see. My bad, I was just going with where you were located.

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    Great trade for Rangers. Rosival's toxic contract remains but its one step closer to actually being able to build a team as opposed to being handcuffed by underachieving bad contracts. Then again knowing Sather he'll still use this cap space to overpay an average player for years to come.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheKoolAidMan View Post
    Room for Kovalchuk :3
    That's obviously the point, and having moneyfor Staal

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    Kovalchuk sweepstakes. Chicago? LA? NYR? Flames?

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    Rumors swirling around Columbus today that Pittsburgh is offering Letang and a 1st round pick for RJ Umberger. They may also be offering a 2nd round pick for Raffi Torres.

    Also, Dispatch is reporting that we're most likely turning down the offer for Umberger. Thank god.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vagus View Post
    Kovalchuk sweepstakes. Chicago? LA? NYR? Flames?
    Kovalchuk needs to keep his ass away from Chicago. No point in giving up what we would have to in order to get him, and then for only half a season and he'd be gone next year. Stan Bowman said he's happy with the team now, plus we're getting back Burish and Bolland soon, so he's not looking to move guys around.

    For Kovalchuk we'd be going from four really good lines top to bottom, to two really amazing lines and lose a lot of our depth....just not worth it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arnwulf View Post
    Rumors swirling around Columbus today that Pittsburgh is offering Letang and a 1st round pick for RJ Umberger. They may also be offering a 2nd round pick for Raffi Torres.

    Also, Dispatch is reporting that we're most likely turning down the offer for Umberger. Thank god.
    Fuck, I'd love if this happened. Doesn't make sense unless Umberger is comfortable playing wing though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Selamis View Post
    Kovalchuk needs to keep his ass away from Chicago. No point in giving up what we would have to in order to get him, and then for only half a season and he'd be gone next year. Stan Bowman said he's happy with the team now, plus we're getting back Burish and Bolland soon, so he's not looking to move guys around.

    For Kovalchuk we'd be going from four really good lines top to bottom, to two really amazing lines and lose a lot of our depth....just not worth it.
    dear god this

    Glad that retarded road trip is over, 5-3 is pretty solid, it just sucks that last one came to fucking Carlolna. Wondering if Wednesday is going to be like the last St. Louis game where they just give up on playing and come right out with the goon shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivaden View Post
    Fuck, I'd love if this happened. Doesn't make sense unless Umberger is comfortable playing wing though.
    He plays wing here most of the time, so I'd think he'd be very comfortable there.

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    Who Beat Mark Eaton this week? That's right... I did

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