Absolute Virtue Information (OP Updated)

[Titanss]

that is pimp

[RealGosu]

AV will still own even when we are lvl 99

[Lovex]

AV will still own even when we are lvl 99

Yeaaaahhh.


No.

[lazarius]

Yeaaaahhh.


No.

yeah it will still own, cuz when the first ally of 99 will beat him, they will "emergency maintenance" and put him back invincible

[Celebrindor]

can I say something as one of those fools who's only seen AV depop after a JoL win?

I get so damn excited every time I see a bump in this thread- and then see "N sash sucks" or "Mars Ring is obsolete" or "a JP shell I don't remember the name" shit.

I've followed this discussion on the sidelines without being able to contribute jack so that I don't become an ass who thinks they've got the solution without ever being hit by a meteor. I still hope people are working on this...because if someone ever does figure it out before the level cap increase I'll be the first to give 'em a shiny penny.

So for those of you who still take this thread seriously- thanks.

[Cream Soda]

Well honestly, as far as my sam is concerned, nsash doesn't suck, but it sure isn't worth keeping over Vbelt and money I could get from selling. 6 attack for 30% of my dmg. Yea, that'll be a nice increase for sure!

[pchan]

That's the point of view of poors I guess. Secondly, the moment AV is killable speedbelt will no longer be worth a penny.

[Tsuko_Asura]

That's the point of view of poors I guess. Secondly, the moment AV is killable speedbelt will no longer be worth a penny.

Worth considerably less? Absolutely. Worth nothing? Nah. In all likelihood, despite the fact that Ninurta's is a bit better, Speed will still be more expensive. If AV becomes killable again, the number of sashes is going to eclipse the number of belts in a very short period of time, while belts will still be useful for lower levels.

[Benevolentone]

You are all assuming that they won't possibly change the drop rates of certain things just to fuck with us even more.

US: Hey! AV is killable now!!
...
5 kills later: WTF we haven't gotten anything but shitty RR rods and only one Minerva Ring. What did SE do to this drop rate?

SE: Hahaha fools! I have let you kill my precious retarded floating fishmanthing but I will never let you have my sash!! /slashytmnd

[pchan]

while belts will still be useful for lower levels.

people don't get speed belts for their level sync colibri pt.

[Thorny]

That. If I got a sash I'd be dropping my swift/vbelt, they aren't worth the space for low levels much less gil to boot.

[Jhoira]

Wow I made it! All 82 god damn pages!

Firstly fair deuce to those who have and continue to attempt to learn something about AV I take my hat off to you.

Secondly I like everyone else have my own ideas about what the trick to dealing with AV, no concrete answers just a little outside the box thinking. I would like to suggest that locking 2 hours may be part of the problem. From SE's point of view (and it may not be a very wise one) what would be the point in having the players prevent the mana fonted meteors when it later gets access to the spell at will since it does little to affect the overall fight? (Apart perhaps from a survivability point of view)

When you look at the video the devs did there is no way (as stated clearly by many in this thread) that they could have survived a meteor or in fact even look prepared for it. Not to base much on the video since god knows how it was made but they clearly aren't worried or wiping to a meteor as the actually players do.

And finally since everyone else has their crackpot theory I'll add in mine... if one were to attempt to create an incredibly difficult boss wouldn't it make sense to have it more powerful the more powerful it's adversaries were? In other words the devs could have fought av with ageis pld's and rdms in dalmaticas but instead they are just walking around and meleeing in their relic and af gear. Mojo mentioned it many pages ago about how much dmg a naked mule would take but I'd like to test the theory of how much damage someone takes depending on the quality of their gear or indeed their current stats. This is something I hope I can test myself some day.

Untill then I wish everyone the best and thank you for your efforts and much hours of entertainment and wonder... if there was an AV only ls I'd be right there trying to solve the puzzle myself!

[Konda]

hat's off for reading all 82 pages. you instantly gained more respect than some1 who comes in and says "I havent read whole thread, but jailer weaponz?!"


With the comment about the equipment cahnging the difficulty, I don't see how they'd implement this. Considering how many gear sets people have these days, it'd be pretty hard to guage them in terms of "leetness" to determine the difficulty of AV at any given moment, considering most players would be constantly swapping equipment.

If they didnt implement something to stop gimps getting relic weapons, I doubt they'd do the same here >.>;

[TheMysteriousX]

hat's off for reading all 82 pages. you instantly gained more respect than some1 who comes in and says "I havent read whole thread, but jailer weaponz?!"


With the comment about the equipment cahnging the difficulty, I don't see how they'd implement this. Considering how many gear sets people have these days, it'd be pretty hard to guage them in terms of "leetness" to determine the difficulty of AV at any given moment, considering most players would be constantly swapping equipment.

If they didnt implement something to stop gimps getting relic weapons, I doubt they'd do the same here >.>;

It has precedent. Gimps *always* get the good drops.

However, if you're reading this SE: I will love you long time if you create an NM that instantly casts death on anyone within range wearing the following:

Askar Zuchetto, Denali Bonnet, Hachiman Domaru, Shinsoku, Sattva/Tamas rings, NQ Amemets, Homan Zuchetto.

[Not Kuno]

What's wrong with Tamas again?

[Khajit]

The fact that it's not rajas

[Neosutra]

My Sattva alternates as a vibrating penis ring, so fuck off.

[didgist]

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j1...rassyknoll.jpg

I've read and re-read. Is there any discussion as to what this character is doing? They flee in from the left side of the screen during the scene where AV dies.

If this has already been mentioned or if it's some kind of unused cameraman I apologize.

[Demosthenes11]

...holy shit, is that cait sith?

[Konda]

maybe if you have a flee rotation of people running clockwise around AV making a giant tornado then all his wind spells do 0 dmg because tanks are in the eye of the storm?