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[Yugl]

Any thoughts on the new Shadowlord Items for fighting AV? (Specifically the Helm with an estimated 5% chance at absorbing magic damage as hp)

Well I think the consensus is that if AV casts meteor on you, you have a 5% chance of absorbing 6k HP instead of taking 3k DMG.

[StopTheLight]

there's still the possibility that SE is going to adjust AV's Lv. (in fact there's a 50% chance that they're going to adjust his Lv. and a 50% that they're not).

I'm not sure if you're serious... If you actually think that's true, you should take a course in statistics.

I wonder why SE hasn't given any meteor clues...

[thetruepandagod]

Any thoughts on the new Shadowlord Items for fighting AV? (Specifically the Helm with an estimated 5% chance at absorbing magic damage as hp)

Everyone still dies, 1 person procs and gets lucky.

That should be the extent of the thought process on it.

[Pebe]

No one seems to have answered the question about has anyone ever tested holy. If you think about it holds some validity. Beacuse, need I remind you, holy was the key to stopping meteor in FF7. It wouldn't surprise me if they put an element from FF7 into FF11.

Also, a quick idea for the last push to kill it at the end.

Alliance:
1 Tank pt
2 Blm PT (5 blms and a cor in each)
-This requires a total of 6 cors(3 per pt) for a total of 4 ele seal nukes from each blm.
Thus 40 unresisted nukes. Wild Card rotation since wild card will always reset all abilities.
Random deal can be used as well. In the tank pt you can also swap in a rdm and sch for Death Blossom (-magic evasion) and Omniscience (-magic defense). Or is it Vidohunir for the -magic defense hmm, i forget.

Also, before they're zergs has everyone been stacking defense - abilities:
Garland of Bliss (smn)
Feint(Thf)
Some warrior WS
Dia III
Light shot
Angon
etc.

P.S. sorry if this has already been tried.

[Demosthenes11]

hhhhhhhhhhhhnnnnnnnnnnnnngggggggggffffffffffff

[Pebe]

what does that even mean?

[Draylo]

what does that even mean?

http://images.bluegartr.com/forum/im...strum_icon.png

[Pebe]

blah i don't have a claustrum, just like the look of the staff. But thats besides the point, answer, comment on question.

[Rokku]

hhhhhhhhhhhhnnnnnnnnnnnnngggggggggffffffffffff

Oh god I lol'd

@Pebe, The general sentiment with this thread over the last few years is information before speculation, feel free to give said strat a shot, but it's pretty much been established that outside of the already broken/fixed theory of SCHs burning AV to 0%, there isn't a particular combination that really matters without a reliable method to deal with Meteor.

[Pebe]

Unfortunately the only ls that does AV regularly on my server is dafunk. They're manpower/aresenal is crazy. I'll keep my speculation at bay TY Rokku

[Rokku]

I'm aware. They absorbed all of the remaining members of the former big LSs on Caitsith that fell apart shortly after they transferred over to Caitsith, lol. Great shell though.

[Lovex]

You did/doing claustrum.

Nobody is ever going to listen to anything you have to say.

Sorry

[Lovex]

Okay so sorry for the repost but can someone from apathy, kaiekos, the trupandagods LS, or a LS that consistantly fights av confirm a few things for me.

I don't take this thread or AV seriously anymore as someone whos fought it a handful
of times, I just consider it a joke mob. In any case this morning on valefor Av was being
attempted by some very bored JPs. Depop of course with a wipe beforehand.

Anyways, so my LS leader said, players on BG have determined how to lock meteor and or braclets mode and weaken meteor.. Is there any truth to this? He also claimed
the main problem with AV at this point was alliances wiping to comet?

So my questions are, have we found a way to weaken meteor? Lock bracelets?
If someone from an established Av attempt type shell can confirm id appreciate it.


Thx!

[D44kpunk]

No one seems to have answered the question about has anyone ever tested holy. If you think about it holds some validity. Beacuse, need I remind you, holy was the key to stopping meteor in FF7. It wouldn't surprise me if they put an element from FF7 into FF11.

Also, a quick idea for the last push to kill it at the end.

Alliance:
1 Tank pt
2 Blm PT (5 blms and a cor in each)
-This requires a total of 6 cors(3 per pt) for a total of 4 ele seal nukes from each blm.
Thus 40 unresisted nukes. Wild Card rotation since wild card will always reset all abilities.
Random deal can be used as well. In the tank pt you can also swap in a rdm and sch for Death Blossom (-magic evasion) and Omniscience (-magic defense). Or is it Vidohunir for the -magic defense hmm, i forget.

Also, before they're zergs has everyone been stacking defense - abilities:
Garland of Bliss (smn)
Feint(Thf)
Some warrior WS
Dia III
Light shot
Angon
etc.

P.S. sorry if this has already been tried.

i suggested this literally like 5 years ago (the holy thing) and it was debunked unless it wasn't casted at the right time, but yeah. and no meteor hasn't been locked afaik i doubt apathy even has the man power to attempt AV anymore tbh

[thetruepandagod]

No progress at all other then what you see in this thread, only thing ive seen working to any degree is tank pt + 6 SC/MB pt's which has gotten it to 33%

[Lovex]

no meteor hasn't been locked afaik i doubt apathy even has the man power to attempt AV anymore tbh

Yeah I figured that.

I dont get why people make up things in regards to AV.

Thx daak!

EDIT: thanks panda. I'll be sure to pass that on.

[deiopea]

Depop of course with a wipe beforehand.

Anyways, so my LS leader said, players on BG have determined how to lock meteor and or braclets mode and weaken meteor.. Is there any truth to this? He also claimed
the main problem with AV at this point was alliances wiping to comet?

Did you see the wipe? To my knowledge, Comet is single target, and I think can be absorbed by Uts -- our LS info on AV said it can be "Dodged." Unless it did Chainspell and Comet over 9000 times, I'm not sure how an alliance can wipe to Comet. There's probably a slight miscommunication of information.

So based on this information, the other claims can be assumed null.

Just my opinion/thoughts though.

[Yugl]

What were the results of Perfect Defense testing?

Edit: I assume it worked, which was why they got him to ~40%, but doing enough DMG within that timeframe seemed to be an issue.

[Mateuns7]

What were the results of Perfect Defense testing?

Edit: I assume it worked, which was why they got him to ~40%, but doing enough DMG within that timeframe seemed to be an issue.

http://www.bluegartr.com/forum/showp...&postcount=266
-72% from that SS with 288 skill.

[Darkmagi]

Seems like the perfect defense strats would work, you just need to throw more WARs and SMNs I guess? :/ sadly it will be nerfed within a week of the first kill.