Absolute Virtue Information (OP Updated)

[Salmijr]

Doubt Sundi ever leveled a job past 10. That pic of him running around as a 78 pre cap increase was, of course, pre generated to that level.

[Thundro]

So can anyone that watched the fight tell us how long it took them to down it, how many DD PTs they had and how many sets of SMNs they used if they only killed it with 27 ppl and if the SMNs waited 90 secs to reapply PD since it is said that the effect diminishes over time?

Doesn't look like you can support more than 2 DD PTs + BRDs/CORs/WHMs/RDM/PLD/SMNs with only 27 ppl...

[Michelob]

So can anyone that watched the fight tell us how long it took them to down it, how many DD PTs they had and how many sets of SMNs they used if they only killed it with 27 ppl and if the SMNs waited 90 secs to reapply PD since it is said that the effect diminishes over time?

First one was about two minutes, second one (not the clean-up) was about 100 seconds.

Doesn't look like you can support more than 2 DD PTs + BRDs/CORs/WHMs/RDM/PLD/SMNs with only 27 ppl...

lol

[Thundro]

Oh heck lol I thought it would at least take 3 rounds of PD to finish it off, thats why I thought 27 ppl and 3 DD PT wouldn't work if 9 of them are SMN already but in that case...

[Spira]

kinda irrelevant but i still wish someone tried the 'throw 2 PTs of SMN to sync-zantetsuken on AV' method to see how low that would take him to

[Wakabo]

kinda irrelevant but i still wish someone tried the 'throw 2 PTs of SMN to sync-zantetsuken on AV' method to see how low that would take him to

Why not just go for the whole bang and make an alliance of smn? Astral burn AV go.

[Kegsay]

Why not just go for the whole bang and make an alliance of smn? Astral burn AV go.

I know you're probably joking, but avatars takes full damage from magical spells, and -50% damage on physical hits, so whilst they may survive a melee onslaught, any -ga3 or Meteor will one shot all the avatars and bring an angry AV to the screaming masses. Of course, you could try to be clever and have some Garudas (for -ga3 resist) and some Carbuncles (for Meteor; I presume it's light based like Meteorite?) and hope some survive but at that point things are looking pretty grim.

EDIT: derp, no such thing as physical spells [sans blu]

[Darlin]

What it take, a week to 10 days before they nerfed drk zerg?

Congrats on kill, Resonance.

[Khajit]

How badly was souleater nerfed vs AV? I know a whole pt/alliance of drks will trigger the resist rate but would 1 vs it in the alliance do ok and not trigger the resistance?
Or did SE nerf SE so bad that even if there was one lone drk in the alliance they'd never even think of using souleater?

[FailureMidgard]

How badly was souleater nerfed vs AV? I know a whole pt/alliance of drks will trigger the resist rate but would 1 vs it in the alliance do ok and not trigger the resistance?
Or did SE nerf SE so bad that even if there was one lone drk in the alliance they'd never even think of using souleater?

1 Perdu DRK seems perfectly fine to use SE and kept up with other jobs on the parse.

[Crizto]

Whoa whoa whoa who was using Perdu on our AVs

[Pivotal]

using perdu scythe and WSing like everyone else not set up like a SE zerg tho?
grats on your kills btw =)

and does your full alliance gather directly infront of him or do you spread them around a bit or do your smn alex's at a slight distance?

[Eanae]

I know you're probably joking, but avatars takes full damage from magical spells, and -50% damage on physical hits, so whilst they may survive a melee onslaught, any -ga3 or Meteor will one shot all the avatars and bring an angry AV to the screaming masses. Of course, you could try to be clever and have some Garudas (for -ga3 resist) and some Carbuncles (for Meteor; I presume it's light based like Meteorite?) and hope some survive but at that point things are looking pretty grim.

EDIT: derp, no such thing as physical spells [sans blu]

15 smn 3 cor with an outside dd pt ready and cors dropping after rolls for 3 dd's. It works in theory if you do it "right". But "right" is questionable in the patched within two or so days way.

[Mojo]

Did you guys save logs or parses? Might be interesting to look at the damage reduction that gets applied as it gets close to 0%.

[Wulfgang]

Decent WAR (idea of gear in sig) vs. Apoc DRK for DD? I guess the question gets more complicated if you have multiple DRKs on it as SE resist builds faster. Have Octave Club as well.

[FailureMidgard]

Did you guys save logs or parses? Might be interesting to look at the damage reduction that gets applied as it gets close to 0%.

I always run logger (OMG WINDOWER IS CHEATING IT LETS YOU GO BACK AND LOOK AT SHIT).
Forgot to parse the first kill, parsed our first 27% wipe a week ago, and other kills since.

Decent WAR (idea of gear in sig) vs. Apoc DRK for DD? I guess the question gets more complicated if you have multiple DRKs on it as SE resist builds faster. Have Octave Club as well.

So full Ares Apoc vs full Ares WAR? Both sounds pretty terrible.

I'd go with DRK if the only 1, WAR if you have too many, I have no earthly clue what too many is.

[thetruepandagod]

How are ur sam's stacking up against your war's just curious

[FailureMidgard]

How are ur sam's stacking up against your war's just curious

War is absolutely nothing special.

[thetruepandagod]

sexcellent.

[Tarubaby]

sexcellent.

Sexcuse me; but what the good is all the violence in the world, unless it is tempered with limitless sex?