Absolute Virtue Information (OP Updated)

[Wulfgang]

So it's a SAM zerg then or you're fucking with me? I was going off someone saying the Perdu DRK kept up in parse

[Jaxzer]

War is absolutely nothing special.

I beg to differ, a good ridill war can really shine. I only managed to parse one pt yesterday but my war topped a very good yoichi rng. Rest of the ally consisted of sams and some war/sam. (On AV)

[Tricen]

So it's a SAM zerg then or you're fucking with me? I was going off someone saying the Perdu DRK kept up in parse

From what I am reading, the SE nerf affects multiple DRKs using it, so 1 DRK using it doesn't get a massive reduction as fast.

[Jaxzer]

So it's a SAM zerg then or you're fucking with me? I was going off someone saying the Perdu DRK kept up in parse

We had an amano sam but I didn't get his #s in. Eager to do another just so I can show some actual #s.

[FailureMidgard]

So it's a SAM zerg then or you're fucking with me? I was going off someone saying the Perdu DRK kept up in parse

No? I was making a comment that the full Ares in your sig isn't exactly good gear (though Armadaberk and Apoc are obv nice). I assume you don't really wear full Ares, but I was making a sarcastic/asshole comment saying if you do, it's gonna be shitty. 1 DRK SEing with a 2hander is definitely "good". I have no idea how resistance applies to a single KC, or multiple 2h DRKs (and honestly, I don't intend to find out).

I beg to differ, a good ridill war can really shine. I only managed to parse one pt yesterday but my war topped a very good yoichi rng. Rest of the ally consisted of sams and some war/sam. (On AV)

Wow grats, you parsed 1 whole party on 1 whole attempt and outparsed a job I wouldn't even bring? I'm truly impressed. Did you kill it?

Also, the point of my comment was implying you don't need a War zerg. I'm not saying a war can't do well, they definitely can. I'm not saying Sam is better. I'm saying the old idea of "only wars to zerg AV" is wrong, and wars are nothing special. We do bring warriors.

I am interested in seeing your parse though.

[Wulfgang]

I have Dusk +1 etc as well, my TP gear is fine; was just pointing to sig to illustrate it wasn't Askar Hands and Legs. Does anyone have the math behind a huge MP pool Perfect D and damage taken (900+ mp)? Just watched a group get destroyed at 78% with Perfect D. Yes these are stupid questions, apologies. I had rarely played but this has obviously piqued my interest.

[FailureMidgard]

I have Dusk +1 etc as well, my TP gear is fine; was just pointing to sig to illustrate it wasn't Askar Hands and Legs. Does anyone have the math behind a huge MP pool Perfect D and damage taken (900+ mp)? Just watched a group get destroyed at 78% with Perfect D. Yes these are stupid questions, apologies. I had rarely played but this has obviously piqued my interest.

The fight is not near as simple as idiots on FFXIAH make it sound. It is not throw up PD and win. That being said, outside of Bene/PD/Invinc, the fight is definitely controllable. If they got destroyed, I'm almost certain they did something wrong, and probably went in thinking "lol PD and win, free AV drops".

[Mojo]

I always run logger (OMG WINDOWER IS CHEATING IT LETS YOU GO BACK AND LOOK AT SHIT).
Forgot to parse the first kill, parsed our first 27% wipe a week ago, and other kills since

If you wouldn't mind, send the logs my way~!

[Rhealana]

Managed to eke out another win, so I think we're getting the hang of it..

[jmc]

Misunderstanding, sorry.

[Sho]

5 kills now? Very nice.

[Taint]

5 kills now? Very nice.

Yeah pretty f'in sweet, I'd be buying every Sea pop item I could get my hands on. You could break even on the Novios alone and then bank on AV.

[Iremire]

Yeah pretty f'in sweet, I'd be buying every Sea pop item I could get my hands on. You could break even on the Novios alone and then bank on AV.

i think we still have 5-6 jol pops but yeah that's the plan

[Rhealana]

I think every BLM and SCH in our shell will have novios by the time we're done.

[Onorgul]

I think every BLM and SCH in our shell will have novios by the time we're done.

But what about the Corsairs? Won't you think of the Corsairs!?

Seriously, nice to see that this NM is finally at a stage where it can be killed with some semblance of legitimacy. Continued shame on SE for making it such a needless pain, especially given how lacklustre the drops are becoming.

[Darkmagi]

Zerging is zerging, if you thought Kclub zerging was any less legit how would this be any different? Don't care how "legit" a kill is, drops are drops. Grats

[Salmijr]

The difference is that KC zerging was pretty much instawin, since AV went down so fast, it would be dead before it could act. I stil remember MercuryX scrambling, trying to buy up all the KCs it could, and how high this drove up their price.

[Taint]

The difference is that KC zerging was pretty much instawin, since AV went down so fast, it would be dead before it could act. I stil remember MercuryX scrambling, trying to buy up all the KCs it could, and how high this drove up their price.

Only 29 exp. points WTF

[Michelob]

Zerging is zerging, if you thought Kclub zerging was any less legit how would this be any different? Don't care how "legit" a kill is, drops are drops. Grats

This is absolutely different in that any ragtag group of 4-7 KCs could knock it down before, where now most shells using our identical set up are likely not going to win with any consistency. The way we are doing it is not, by any means, an insta-win.

[orson]

The difference is that KC zerging was pretty much instawin, since AV went down so fast, it would be dead before it could act. I stil remember MercuryX scrambling, trying to buy up all the KCs it could, and how high this drove up their price.

Actually it wasn't nearly instant win at all you could still be destroyed by the AoE stun move and a few other things. 2 Reasons it got nerfed though. Firstly by killing AV extremely quickly it got locked into AI routines similar to Bahamut v2 and Sarameya(sp?) ZNM Cerb so it was a bit glitched but barely an exploit. The biggest reason was though there was a lot of idiots (Alla anyone?) bitching about it being an unfair/broken way of killing it mainly because only Drk could do and those people probably didn't like the idea of being "left out."

Overall it does seem like this requires a bit more coordination and a bit more risk of loss. I think the fact that this is something accomplished after the level cap going up less people are going to be pissed and more likely willing to except this as something that was bound to happen with higher levels being reached.