Absolute Virtue Information (OP Updated)

[konoko]

maybe theres a way to force AV out of bracelets mode? idk i havnt seen the Dev kill vid in a while, but i dont recall seing AV in bracelets mode for much of it...

[pchan]

In their wideo it has bracelets

[Bishop1]

No. It was stated that the group maybe locked all 15 2hrs but you have to be 100% sure, and since it didn´t do shit to weaken AVs meteor they either 1. did NOT lock all 15 2hrs
or 2. it just doesn´t do shit to weaken it. Also I doubt that 1 SA WS will do crap for locking Meteor or even killing AV while in bracelet mode.

Not for meteor but for damage. I dunno but it the bracelet part of the video both guys that WS used SA. I watched the apathy video they did pretty good. If it wasn't for the time limit they probably would have killed it.

[Virtuous Saint]

Not for meteor but for damage. I dunno but it the bracelet part of the video both guys that WS used SA. I watched the apathy video they did pretty good. If it wasn't for the time limit they probably would have killed it.

Well if there was no time limit a lot of people would be able to kill it because all you would need to do is lock benediction and regen, then just organize SAM/THFs ect. to go 1 after another just zombing it. Only difference between doing this to AV and PW is that PW doesn't rest HP, but AV does so you would need to have the next zombier go within 10s of AV going white.

[Virg]

Well if there was no time limit a lot of people would be able to kill it because all you would need to do is lock benediction and regen, then just organize SAM/THFs ect. to go 1 after another just zombing it. Only difference between doing this to AV and PW is that PW doesn't rest HP, but AV does so you would need to have the next zombier go within 10s of AV going white.

^ VS pretty much covered it. Also, call me crazy but I´m 100% sure zombing AV is also not "SE´s god damn intended way to kill AV" so they´d nerf that anyway. Assuming a group kills it with Wild Card rotation like Kaeko stated it´d probably get nerfed too along with the hight difference at Pallace entrance. Anyway should really try any promising strategy that came up in this thread so far while finding a way to weaken that god damned Meteor.

[tom]

Hey VS have you guys tried having all 15 jobs in alliance and firing all 2-hours within the window(1-3 seconds)?All 2-hours would be fired after AV uses its first one.

[Virg]

Hey VS have you guys tried having all 15 jobs in alliance and firing all 2-hours within the window(1-3 seconds)?All 2-hours would be fired after AV uses its first one.

Question is what you think that´s gonna do?

[tom]

IDk but in the video u see everyone firing there 2-hours ,maybe having all 15 different 2-hours go off locks everything ,weakens AV.I dont know that why i ask if it's been tested.

[arshesney]

Well if there was no time limit a lot of people would be able to kill it because all you would need to do is lock benediction and regen, then just organize SAM/THFs ect. to go 1 after another just zombing it. Only difference between doing this to AV and PW is that PW doesn't rest HP, but AV does so you would need to have the next zombier go within 10s of AV going white.

Wouldn't having it go unclaimed (with nobody on hate list) void the regen lock?

[Virtuous Saint]

Hey VS have you guys tried having all 15 jobs in alliance and firing all 2-hours within the window(1-3 seconds)?All 2-hours would be fired after AV uses its first one.

Um I don't think so but I am pretty sure people did that in the past hoping they would lock 2hrs. They didn't notice a change despite the fact that they might have locked the 2hr it used, it just doesn't become evident until you lock several.

[Virtuous Saint]

Wouldn't having it go unclaimed (with nobody on hate list) void the regen lock?

There is nothing that unlocks regen or locked 2hrs.

[Virg]

Um I don't think so but I am pretty sure people did that in the past hoping they would lock 2hrs. They didn't notice a change despite the fact that they might have locked the 2hr it used, it just doesn't become evident until you lock several.

Yeah after trying to remember what I´ve read in past AV threads I´m pretty damn sure I´ve read in one of them that a group tried it and only seemed to lock the 2hr AV used which they obviously couldn´t prove.
Also, why you always gotta beat me to my answers VS?

[Celebrindor]

I have no reason to post this other than thank you to those doing this work. I still believe that someday AV will be farmable, and since I have no serious hope at the moment of being on the cutting edge of AV theory/practice, its enjoyable to live vicariously through those trying everything to see what sticks to the wall.

Again, thanks for your exp sacrifices.

[thetruepandagod]

My ls was the one that maybe locked all 15 and had meteor not change at all but some in ls say that the person that locked the 15th 2hr may have been out of range and some say he was in range, this saturday we will lock all 15 if we have enough on and let you know if anything changes if no one else tries before us.

[Virg]

My ls was the one that maybe locked all 15 and had meteor not change at all but some in ls say that the person that locked the 15th 2hr may have been out of range and some say he was in range, this saturday we will lock all 15 if we have enough on and let you know if anything changes if no one else tries before us.

Can anybody of your LS take a video of that and YouTube it? Or make it a torrent? That´d be really fucking awesome. Gl to you guys and thanks in advance for your XP loss and dedication.

[thetruepandagod]

uhhhhh i can try and find out if someone can just waiting to find out if my pld's will actually be on saturday or drunk.

[Virg]

Haha aight cool thanks in advance and gl again.

[Ramses]

Um I don't think so but I am pretty sure people did that in the past hoping they would lock 2hrs. They didn't notice a change despite the fact that they might have locked the 2hr it used, it just doesn't become evident until you lock several.

Well if you can't say definitively, might be something worth testing just to make sure. We were all pretty sure that even matching AV two hours didn't work for a long time. If perchance it turns out any two hour you use within 3 seconds and in range to match any two hour AV uses works, it would obviously save a lot of time. Even if you are 99% sure it won't work, might as well make it 100%.

[ringthree]

This.

The effort is admirable, but everyone needs to come to terms with the fact that if you're not going to play their game, you're wasting your time.

I kind of agree with this. Even if someone, somehow found a way to beat it outside of the dev team's mandated strategy, they would just nerf it so that you had to use their strategy. A strategy that after, what, 4+ years we still haven't figured out.

[Virg]

I kind of agree with this. Even if someone, somehow found a way to beat it outside of the dev team's mandated strategy, they would just nerf it so that you had to use their strategy. A strategy that after, what, 4+ years we still haven't figured out.

True but the community made huge progress in figuring out a working strategy allready. I mean first it was the Regen, then it was Benediction and now it´s down to "only" Meteor pretty much. I´m convinced the community will find out how to nerf/lock it sooner or later.