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  1. #3061
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaishen View Post
    I used pizza the first 4-5 AVs we did. I switched to red curry to try to beat Salmi, and still maintained capped acc. No pizza necessary for DNC!
    I had 90%+ acc even when i still offhanded Joyeuse the first few AV's, and dnc has D (?) skill in sword. You should be so buffed that your A skill weapons shouldnt need pizza/sushi. Kinda cool to see 999 attack on dnc ^^;

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    ITT: DNC caps acc and polearm SAM does not. More at 11.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salmijr View Post
    I had 90%+ acc even when i still offhanded Joyeuse the first few AV's, and dnc has D (?) skill in sword. You should be so buffed that your A skill weapons shouldnt need pizza/sushi. Kinda cool to see 999 attack on dnc ^^;
    Full haste or some acc thrown in?

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    IIRC, was 21% haste, 2x torreador, pcc.

    Have since switched to dex killa/auric and Love torque.

    Edit:
    Yea, 21% haste before I got my sash, 23 now. Gonna wait till next patch before i dump money on dusk +1, in case new stuff comes out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaishen View Post
    I used pizza the first 4-5 AVs we did. I switched to red curry to try to beat Salmi, and still maintained capped acc. No pizza necessary for DNC!
    Now I feel a bit better about insisting on MNKs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thorny View Post
    ITT: DNC caps acc and polearm SAM does not. More at 11.
    Well, I'll admit I made a mistake, but Salmi is overstating his accuracy overall I think, and I admit I didn't pay attention to some dnc aspects as close as I should have, was more concerned with our 9 heavy DDs. Anyway, Salmi's first parse was 78%, and he's had quite a few in the ~85% range. Though, I didn't look into why/etc, but turns out he was using Joyeuse at first as I believe he said. We also had 1 75 dnc in a lot of our parses, and the other 2 dncs were using Pizza (and I never really cared enough to question it), so ya...that's why I thought a Pole Sam wouldn't be accuracy capped. I'm still not sure if it's worth it or not though. I won't say it flat out isn't worth it, but it won't be the damage increase you see on other zergs, I think.
    {Edit: But yes, if my paragraph wasn't clear enough, a DNC with daggers and no feint is definitely capping accuracy with Curry.}

    Quote Originally Posted by Brutala View Post
    Now I feel a bit better about insisting on MNKs.
    You should cap accuracy ya. I didn't say you wouldn't cap though, just that you were lower. I still think a Warrior's 2hr will put them ahead of you. I'm not opposed to a mnk in the zerg, I just wouldn't "insist on mnks" over other DD...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salmijr View Post
    IIRC, was 21% haste, 2x torreador, pcc.

    Have since switched to dex killa/auric and Love torque.
    Needs moar Charis Necklace!

    Where the shit is that mythic DNC? I have some srs questions for him.

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    Wow, I should stop eyeballing stuff, I guess I was still using Joytoy on number 15 O.o. Anyway, the strat is out, enjoy:




    Once I get my hand on Charis, I intend to test it out, and see if acc is still near cap. Damn nm refuses to put out ;(

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    All I saw was a bored SMN going 'yadda yadda', me going DONG on Munei, RMT tell, and getting Impact Stream stunned on Rhea as I was pulled in to Angon.. lol.

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    I love the RMT tell in the middle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salmijr View Post
    Damn nm refuses to put out ;(
    ^

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    Wouldnt mind if SE fix PD. 90% is just too overpowered.
    SE knows how to make stuff from unbeatable to loljoke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spik3 View Post
    Wouldnt mind if SE fix PD. 90% is just too overpowered.
    SE knows how to make stuff from unbeatable to loljoke.
    Perfect Defense is an awesome ability that only does so little.
    Outside of AV, MMM, (and, potentially, PW's last form) it's pretty much useless

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    I'd argue it's useful for any zerg that you can't chain stun, or anything that can one shot melees in a zerg.

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    Any number on approximately how many nukes need to get off to lock regen? 60 seems a bit high if you have only 2 rdms doing it.

    Also congrats on kills and thanks for the video!

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    2 RDMs chainspell nuking tier1s while a pld holds AV is usually enough, unless it rapes the pld early. 30 per rdm per cs is easy.

    X X P X X
    R X AV X R

    P = pld, R = Rdm, etc. So one AOE doesnt kill everyone

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    Thanks much ^^

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spik3 View Post
    Wouldnt mind if SE fix PD. 90% is just too overpowered.
    SE knows how to make stuff from unbeatable to loljoke.
    It doesn't make it "loljoke".

    Quote Originally Posted by fredjanx View Post
    Perfect Defense is an awesome ability that only does so little.
    Outside of AV, MMM, (and, potentially, PW's last form) it's pretty much useless
    Eh, if you're gonna include MMM in there, it's useful for a ton past that, including if you want to lowman some t3 Ein bosses, IMO. People have just lived without it for so long, they overlook it, but if you wanted to drop #s, ya, PD would be pretty amazing.

    Quote Originally Posted by Darkmagi View Post
    I'd argue it's useful for any zerg that you can't chain stun, or anything that can one shot melees in a zerg.
    Agree entirely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FailureMidgard View Post
    It doesn't make it "loljoke".
    It is! Look the video.
    Either its:

    lolmode: zerg down with PD

    or its: Random mode:

    bad luck on perfect defense / whateva 2hr.

    So yes its a joke. This is FFXI we want hard and challenging fights, not either easy mode or random luck wipe mode.

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    You DID notice that AV didnt meteor or even 2 hr right? I'm guessing he 2hrd on a sac pull, cause i dont see one.

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