Absolute Virtue Information (OP Updated)

[Virtuous Saint]

Actually Yes I do. They did not lock

-Perfect Dodge
-Eagle Eye Shot
-Mighty Strikes
-Hundred Fists
-Mijin
-Familiar

How do I know this? These are the only 6 jobs they did not have present with them. They did not copy 2 hours of these therefore they remained unlocked. The very Last 2 hour AV used before dying was either Mighty Strikes or Hundred Fists 100% unless the wyverns were out when he died at which you could say it could be mijin or familiar.
It was not perfect dodge and I didn't see no EES go off on anyone.

This is 3 jobs unlocked from the original 6 jobs and 3 jobs unlocked from 3 advanced jobs but that is probably irrevelant.

They locked Meteor.
How do I know this? It was not casted in the video.
This statement is as stupid as what you posted, but ya the posts above this describe how you are wrong.

[vagus]

So any reason why Wind Wand is more effective then Thunderstorm?

[Cog]

i think the last scene in the SE vid shows that pair of DDs trying to make a skillchain.
i have said this many times before, but Shadow of Death >> gekko makes lv 2 Fragmentation, doesnt it ?
if the dev playing the Drk had apoc, he may have used his relic WS for the lulz since AV was at low hp%.
but u can easily see that several thunder spells were incoming at the time the sam got stunned in between SATA and tachi: gekko.

[Jeryhn]

With all this talk of colors on AV's Two Hour dust, all it is is part of the dust is matching the color of the icon next to the Two Hour in the ability list, or rather, the elemental nature of each ability.

Manafont = Light blue (ice).
Chainspell = Purple (lightning).
Mighty Strikes = Red (fire).

Etc.

[Virtuous Saint]

With all this talk of colors on AV's Two Hour dust, all it is is part of the dust is matching the color of the icon next to the Two Hour in the ability list, or rather, the elemental nature of each ability.

Manafont = Light blue (ice).
Chainspell = Purple (lightning).
Mighty Strikes = Red (fire).

Etc.

Ya everyone knows that, they were just pointing out the fact that the last 2hr in the dev video could have only been 1 of a few select 2hrs.

[Jeryhn]

Ya everyone knows that, they were just pointing out the fact that the last 2hr in the dev video could have only been 1 of a few select 2hrs.

Except he has some of them wrong. Namely between light and earth elements.
Invincible's element is earth, and should have a yellow spiral, which he's shown us (it's a pretty strong yellow in his screenshot in contrast to how light the other colors seem to be represented, so I'm assuming that's based off of Invincible).

Need to look for some specific Benedictions spirals (or some other light-elemental two hour) to compare to Invincible's spiral to determine that last two hour used in the dev video.

Sorry if I didn't make that clearer with my last post, thought it'd be implied.

[Virtuous Saint]

Except he has some of them wrong. Namely between light and earth elements.
Invincible's element is earth, and should have a yellow spiral, which he's shown us (it's a pretty strong yellow in his screenshot in contrast to how light the other colors seem to be represented, so I'm assuming that's based off of Invincible).

Need to look for some specific Benedictions spirals (or some other light-elemental two hour) to compare to Invincible's spiral to determine that last two hour used in the dev video.

Sorry if I didn't make that clearer with my last post, thought it'd be implied.

K maybe someone of them do not match? Irrelevant really, all you need to do is know what 2hr corresponds to what color cloud in game.

[Yinnyth]

With all this talk of colors on AV's Two Hour dust, all it is is part of the dust is matching the color of the icon next to the Two Hour in the ability list, or rather, the elemental nature of each ability.

Manafont = Light blue (ice).
Chainspell = Purple (lightning).
Mighty Strikes = Red (fire).

Etc.

Manafont is dark blue (water). Anyone can easily check that by changing to blm in their mog house. The color of the spiral is not based on the color of the icon. I made the same mistake assuming that, but my videos of AV prove otherwise.

Am I going to need to provide proof of all 13 2hrs I've seen on AV to be taken seriously? My previous list is accurate and only missing mijin gakure and astral flow which weren't in any of my videos. By your logic, meikyo shisui should have a dark blue spiral because it's water based, but it's clearly golden.

[Jeryhn]

Am I going to need to provide proof of all 13 2hrs I've seen on AV to be taken seriously?

Most likely.

[Yinnyth]

Except he has some of them wrong. Namely between light and earth elements.
Invincible's element is earth, and should have a yellow spiral, which he's shown us (it's a pretty strong yellow in his screenshot in contrast to how light the other colors seem to be represented, so I'm assuming that's based off of Invincible).

Need to look for some specific Benedictions spirals (or some other light-elemental two hour) to compare to Invincible's spiral to determine that last two hour used in the dev video.

Sorry if I didn't make that clearer with my last post, thought it'd be implied.

We'll start off with invincible (earth based, gold spiral):
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o...Invincible.jpg

With a side of soul voice (light based, gold spiral):
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o.../SoulVoice.jpg

And dessert is meikyo shisui (water based, gold spiral):
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o...ikyoShisui.jpg

Forgive the quality, converting these to JPG eats up the colors, and uploading to photobucket eats up the resolution. Cutting off the right side made them slightly legible at least...

Again, the 13 2hrs I have seen and recorded against AV are:

Gold spiral (WHM, PLD, BRD, SAM, DRG)
Tan spiral (WAR, MNK, BST)
White spiral (BLM)
Dark blue/purple spiral (RDM)
Green spiral (THF)
Black spiral (DRK)
Smaller teal cloud, glowing hand (RNG)

[donnie]

the color of the clouds does not represent the element of 2hr, I did that mistake too and we actually tried 1 AV with the plan of grouping sam,blm together etc and it didnt go well lol.

[Vejitta]

Honestly, all these colors look the same too me

[Trixen]

They look same to me aswell, but good information keep it up! We will get that bitch down someday

[Chen]

thats the point. he's proving that their menu 'element' isn't linked to the colour of their spirals, when someone claimed they were. see light/earth/water symboled two hours all showing up gold spiral.

[hypnotizd]

You can see the color differences here
http://www.bluegartr.com/forum/81211...ml#post3069017

the ones above were to prove they're not matching the element of the 2hr

[matix]

^ ? >_>

[Virtuous Saint]

I never knew about the colored dust cloud animations. Thats pretty neat.
there should be 8 colors possibly representing the 8 elements. Record mijin and astral flow and see if those have a red spiral which would indicate fire.
Not sure what tan is supposed to mean though and quite frankly the last 2 hour in the SE video actually looks like the tan one to me.

either way that could explain why they are doing multiple 2 hours on AV.
They could be possibly matching the 2 hour, the color of the spiral matching the element of a 2 hr.

example manafont.

They could be
-Matching manafont with manafont.
-Matching manafont with a Light based 2 hr because manafont is a white spiral.

What does matching the spiral do? Restore 2 hours? Stop his explosing impulse, his meteor, his comet?
noone knows but that is a very nice catch. I honestly thought all the colors looked the same until you showed me the white and blue spirals which are very different from the other ones no matter what angle its at.

Interesting find you got there. Pretty cool.

You speculate more than any person on the planet. You lock a 2hr by countering with the same 2hr, end of story. The only question is how to lock/weaken Meteor as I have said a million times, and the idea that it has anything to do with the spirals seems ridiculous to me along with anyone else I'm sure.

[Mojo]

Honestly if people are so concerned about the spirals, why not go and record the spiral color for other monsters activating two hours? If they do the same thing, it probably doesn't mean anything.

[Linktri]

All abilities (including 2 hrs) are associated with (though not necessarily modified by) elements or they are non-elemental. You don't need to look at "spirals" to tell what element an ability associated with. Just look in your Job Ability and/or Trait list.

That being said, after musing on this subject (off and on) over the past several years, I doubt that this has shit to do with shit, though sometimes some shit is situational shit.

[Mojo]

If you bothered to actually read what was posted in this thread, you would have realized that the icons in the list do not correlate to the color of the spirals. You also have nothing to really back up that statement other than an assumption you made.

Either way, it has proved useful in this thread. I found it highly interesting that Meikyo Shisui was the two hour that AV fired off right it died in the end of the SE video. It wouldn't have been possible to know this without observing those color spirals.