Absolute Virtue Information (OP Updated)

[Yinnyth]

I never knew about the colored dust cloud animations. Thats pretty neat.
there should be 8 colors possibly representing the 8 elements. Record mijin and astral flow and see if those have a red spiral which would indicate fire.
Not sure what tan is supposed to mean though and quite frankly the last 2 hour in the SE video actually looks like the tan one to me.

either way that could explain why they are doing multiple 2 hours on AV.
They could be possibly matching the 2 hour, the color of the spiral matching the element of a 2 hr.

example manafont.

They could be
-Matching manafont with manafont.
-Matching manafont with a Light based 2 hr because manafont is a white spiral.

What does matching the spiral do? Restore 2 hours? Stop his explosing impulse, his meteor, his comet?
noone knows but that is a very nice catch. I honestly thought all the colors looked the same until you showed me the white and blue spirals which are very different from the other ones no matter what angle its at.

Interesting find you got there. Pretty cool.

Unfortunately, no. I'm not saying the 2hr animations have anything to do with solving the bracelets meteor problem. Knowing the color of the spiral is only good for helping your group lock 2hrs more effectively. However, I think the easier we all make it for more groups to reach bracelets mode, the better our chances of solving the problem become.

Manafont is by far the most dangerous 2hr AV uses, but it's the ONLY 2hr he uses that has a white spiral. So having BLMs in your group capable of quickly recognizing and sealing manafont on its first use can greatly improve the outcome of your battle. I'm starting to think it might be possible to survive a manafont if all the PLDs pop fealty and everyone else runs the hell away though...

[Yinnyth]

If you bothered to actually read what was posted in this thread, you would have realized that the icons in the list do not correlate to the color of the spirals. You also have nothing to really back up that statement other than an assumption you made.

Either way, it has proved useful in this thread. I found it highly interesting that Meikyo Shisui was the two hour that AV fired off right it died in the end of the SE video. It wouldn't have been possible to know this without observing those color spirals.

I don't know for certain it was meikyo, meikyo is just the most likely candidate. I haven't seen him use mijin or astral flow yet (I think kirin's astral flow is gold spiral), and it's possible they have someone kiting a Wynav around somewhere. There's also two HP phases no one has reached yet (39% and 19%) at which point he may regain his ability to call wyvern even if you locked it or any other nasty possibility you can imagine...

So yes, meikyo is the most likely, but I didn't mean to make it sound like it was certain.

[pchan]

I'm starting to think it might be possible to survive a manafont if all the PLDs pop fealty and everyone else runs the hell away though...

Check the video in OP. And tbh surviving manafont is not really the goal. You can wait for manafont > lock it > wiped and reraise and start again.

[Hogie]

Check the video in OP. And tbh surviving manafont is not really the goal. You can wait for manafont > lock it > wiped and reraise and start again.

Yeah because wiping and reraise is so clearly part of the dev teams strat to kill AV

[Virtuous Saint]

Unfortunately, no. I'm not saying the 2hr animations have anything to do with solving the bracelets meteor problem. Knowing the color of the spiral is only good for helping your group lock 2hrs more effectively. However, I think the easier we all make it for more groups to reach bracelets mode, the better our chances of solving the problem become.

Manafont is by far the most dangerous 2hr AV uses, but it's the ONLY 2hr he uses that has a white spiral. So having BLMs in your group capable of quickly recognizing and sealing manafont on its first use can greatly improve the outcome of your battle. I'm starting to think it might be possible to survive a manafont if all the PLDs pop fealty and everyone else runs the hell away though...

You can easily survive Manafont by doing this exactly, we do it every time.

[pchan]

Yeah because wiping and reraise is so clearly part of the dev teams strat to kill AV

Do you have any proof that they did not use dark resist,/max -mdt/wipe during manafont ? No. Wiping is not an issue as AV will probably be at top HP when it pops manafont. All it costs you is 5 min, after that it's a "breeze" till 59%.

[Virg]

Do you have any proof that they did not use dark resist,/max -mdt/wipe during manafont ? No. Wiping is not an issue as AV will probably be at top HP when it pops manafont. All it costs you is 5 min, after that it's a "breeze" till 59%.

Why would you if you can just fucking lock Manafont? Seriously do you even read this thread or just post?

[Thorny]

Why would you if you can just fucking lock Manafont? Seriously do you even read this thread or just post?

he specified first manafont, while he's still a complete idiot you're no better

[Snprphnx]

there should be 8 colors possibly representing the 8 elements. Record mijin and astral flow and see if those have a red spiral which would indicate fire.

you all have also forgotten to criticize him on saying mijin is fire based. it is not. repeated testing has proven this.

[Thorny]

you all have also forgotten to criticize him on saying mijin is fire based. it is not. repeated testing has proven this.

manafont isn't necessarily water damage but it still has a blue icon in your screen, go away

[altwight]

I don't understand the point of talking about color'd spirals?

[Nightfyre]

I don't understand the point of talking about color'd spirals?

Only have to use the 2hrs that match that color rather than wasting everyone's 2hr when AV fires one, as by the time it registers in the chatlog it's probably too late to lock. There's always OnEvent, but this is an alternative option.

[Linktri]

Wait.

Hasn't SE does some matching game shit before like this? Chrono Chross? Colors and musical tones or something? It's been a long time since I've played that but...

What if you need to match the element of the 2hr displayed in the player menu to the color of AV's 2hr spirals or something like that? Fuck.

Those stupid ass SE videos they released. Didn't they primarily do only a certain set of 2hrs in response to AV's 2hrs? Gonna do watch that shit again if I can find it.

[Linktri]

Absolute Virtue does Soul Voice (Gold)

Square Enix's response is:
invincible (Gold)
manafont (White)
benediction (Gold)
benediction (Gold)
meikyo shisui (Gold)
benediction (Gold)
Astral Flow ?
manafont (White)
manafont (White)
soulvoice (Gold)
blood weapon ?
chainspell (Blue/Purple)
soulvoice (Gold)


Seems like they're hammering on the "gold" button in response, with maybe a few people jumping the gun.

[Hogie]

Honestly do people read the thread? 2h's have been locked before people we arnt trying to figure out how to fucking lock them. The ONLY reason people have been talking about the color of the ring around the 2h was because someone had mentioned (I dont wana search the last 10 pages to find the post) that in the SE video, the final 2h could only be A B C 2h because of the color of the ring around the 2h. People started to bitch about it wasnt true and then there was proof given.

Now that everyone is caught up who doesn't like to read everything, can we continue to talk about how to lock or reduce the damage of Meteor?

[Linktri]

I'm not talking about locking two hours.

[Mojo]

What are you talking about then? It seems like you're looking waaay too hard at random coincidence.

[Tricen]

Honestly do people read the thread? 2h's have been locked before people we arnt trying to figure out how to fucking lock them. The ONLY reason people have been talking about the color of the ring around the 2h was because someone had mentioned (I dont wana search the last 10 pages to find the post) that in the SE video, the final 2h could only be A B C 2h because of the color of the ring around the 2h. People started to bitch about it wasnt true and then there was proof given.

Now that everyone is caught up who doesn't like to read everything, can we continue to talk about how to lock or reduce the damage of Meteor?

They are talking about a legit way to lock them.

[Linktri]

What are you talking about then? It seems like you're looking waaay too hard at random coincidence.

It would appear that many people are the assumption that locking 2hrs and reducing AV's offensive abilities function under separate mechanisms. I propose that they function under the same mechanism. It's been clearly shown that the burning off of 2hrs can get it done part of the way, but I think there's a pattern to how it must be done. There's no other options available right now. Nothing has been presented to show that there is any other mechanism in place during the fight that has any effect (other than marginal, at best) at all on AV except for the 2hr correlation..

[Mojo]

Then all you've done is present yet another theory that lacks evidence of any kind to support it.