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  1. #1321
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    Are you guys going to keep bitching or start laughing at my joke already?

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    HAHAHA

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    This is the problem many ppl have with AV, they tend to make things more complicated than they look. It took months for ppl to finally figure out matching AV's 2hr actually works. How many ridiculous ideas have been proposed before ppl finally realise it's actually as simple as matching the right 2hr? (with a few small prints)

    Linking Ru'phuabo to Meteor is not completely baseless. We know SE already mentioned all clues can be found in the video, they only show BLMs killing JoL's pet with agas, if JoL actually holds the key to lock Meteor, Ru'phuabo seem to be the most likely candidate, partly because of the presence of Qn'phuabo dat files. Perhaps certain conditions need to be met for JoL to spawn Qn'phuabo? Just like how positioning of players actually plays an important part in locking AV's 2hr. There are indeed infinite number of ways that Ru'Phaubos could affect Meteor. The most important thing is it's not hard to test them, at most you are looking at a 1hr + JoL fight, it's not like killing to many shark is going to remove novio earring form JoL drop list.

  4. #1324
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    Maybe.. just maybe... try matching a 2hr on JoL by element everytime he uses a 2hr? If it works to lock AV 2hrs and shit why can't it work on JoL, just because SE didnt do that in their video doesn't mean they never did it, they can't give you EVERY detail can they? what would be the point of walking you through the fight, look at odin.. don't you haveto kneel or some stupid shit to avoid his 2hr? So why not try it.. notlike you have anything tolose right? AV gonna rape you anyways if it doesn't work or you just feel your to superior to even attampt it because it just seems to stupid of an idea, gotta remember SE designed this mob.. anything is possible... and has anyoneever tried to 2hr on JoL dust clouds before? probably not... so maybe give it a shot and see what happens, i see no other things you can do to AV other then locking regen and 2hr directly on AV unless your supposed to kill wyverns over and over and over again instead of just locking them... Meteor is basically all elements aint it? its "special" JoL uses all 8 elements doesn't he? try matching them with 2hrs, or ja's or magic who the fuck knows... never gonna kill it till you actually try this kind of shit, if your not going to attempt this shit then why does this thread even exsist? I would bet that torques and weapons do nothing, to many horrible drop rates to get torques on all members to lock shit, and weapons would be to easy... so give the JoL dust cloud a shot, if it don't work then oh well back to the drawing board and crying for more video walkthroughs from SE, as ive read on here and even see in the videos.. SE wore standard shit that anyone can get so if they can beat it with crap then why can't you beat it with your l33t stuff? They locked meteor, JoL is the key...

  5. #1325
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taruking View Post
    This is the problem many ppl have with AV, they tend to make things more complicated than they look. It took months for ppl to finally figure out matching AV's 2hr actually works. How many ridiculous ideas have been proposed before ppl finally realise it's actually as simple as matching the right 2hr? (with a few small prints)

    Linking Ru'phuabo to Meteor is not completely baseless. We know SE already mentioned all clues can be found in the video, they only show BLMs killing JoL's pet with agas, if JoL actually holds the key to lock Meteor, Ru'phuabo seem to be the most likely candidate, partly because of the presence of Qn'phuabo dat files. Perhaps certain conditions need to be met for JoL to spawn Qn'phuabo? Just like how positioning of players actually plays an important part in locking AV's 2hr. There are indeed infinite number of ways that Ru'Phaubos could affect Meteor. The most important thing is it's not hard to test them, at most you are looking at a 1hr + JoL fight, it's not like killing to many shark is going to remove novio earring form JoL drop list.
    Al'Taeiu DAT File

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    Ul'aern
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    Ul'aern
    Ul'aern
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    Ul'aern
    Aern's Wynav
    Aern's Xzomit
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    Aern's Elemental
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    Aern's Wynav
    Aern's Elemental
    Aern's Xzomit
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    Om'xzomit
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    Aern's Xzomit
    Om'hpemde
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    Aern's Wynav
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    Om'xzomit
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    Aern's Elemental
    Om'xzomit
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    Om'phuabo
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    Aern's Xzomit
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    Om'xzomit
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    Om'aern
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    Aern's Xzomit
    Om'hpemde
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    Aern's Wynav
    Om'hpemde
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    Aern's Elemental
    Om'phuabo
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    Aern's Xzomit
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    Om'phuabo
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    Om'aern
    Aern's Elemental
    Om'phuabo
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    Om'phuabo
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    Om'hpemde
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    Aw'euvhi
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    Ru'aern
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    Jailer of Hope
    Jailer of Justice
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    Jailer of Prudence
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    Jailer of Love
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    Qn'hpemde
    Qn'hpemde
    Qn'hpemde
    Absolute Virtue
    Aern's Wynav
    Aern's Wynav
    Aern's Wynav
    Aern's Wynav
    Aern's Wynav
    Aern's Wynav
    ???
    ???
    ???
    ???
    Crystalline Field
    Rubious Crystal
    Rubious Crystal
    Rubious Crystal
    Auroral Updraft
    Auroral Updraft
    Auroral Updraft
    Auroral Updraft
    Auroral Updraft
    Auroral Updraft
    Swirling Vortex
    Swirling Vortex
    Dimensional Portal
    Dimensional Portal
    Dimensional Portal
    ???    
    Prishe
    Selh'teus
    Ulmia
    Tenzen
    Jabbos
    Shikaree Z
    Louverance
    Nag'molada
    Makki-Chebukki
    Kukki-Chebukki
    Cherukiki
    Promathia
    Prishe
    Quasilumin
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    Quasilumin
    Quasilumin
    Quasilumin
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    Ulmia
    Makki-Chebukki
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    Cherukiki
    Jabbos
    Shikaree Z
    Louverance
    ???
    Yve'noile
    ???
    ???
    mithra
    elv
    hume
    taru
    garu
    Esha'ntarl
    KODAI
    KODAI
    KODAI
    KODAI
    KODAI
    Selh'teus
    Quasilumin
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    Quasilumin
    Trailmix
    Goblin Footprint
    Moogle
    Moogle
    Moogle
    Moogle
    Just gonna stop there.

  6. #1326
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    I didn't think to check it myself til you mentioned it, but I was suprised to see no Qn'phuabo in the DATs. I recall them being mentioned somewhere a long time ago. Were they removed from DATs or were they never there?

  7. #1327
    Groinlonger
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    I don't remember them ever being there.

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    Ah alright =/

  9. #1329
    Dragoon Princess
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    What's with the moogle? Never seen one in any CSs for sea.

  10. #1330
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anthonystar View Post
    What's with the moogle? Never seen one in any CSs for sea.
    I think there's a Moogle in every single zone? Has something to do with the GMs probably, but I'm not sure.

  11. #1331
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    Quote Originally Posted by FailureMidgard View Post
    Edit: I lied and redid it, # looks like it should be closer to ~21.04% unless I made another mistake.
    It seems as though both my approximation (29.1%) and your calculation (28.9%) were both pretty close when we didn't account for restriction on using the same two hour in a row. However, after adjusting my approximation code to accommodate for that factor, it came out to be 19.13% after 100,000 iterations, so your calculation may be off. It's much bulkier but goes legions faster because I figured out how to disable Maple from printing every line. I'll do 10 million iterations while I sleep tonight to make sure it's super precise, but I'm confident it's working correctly.

    19.13% is much lower than 35%, but in my defense I think everyone forgot about the "can't use a two hour twice in a row" factor, which is very significant. That changes the odds of AV not using a specific 2 hour in this case to (10/11)*(9/10)^36, which comes out to be 2.05%.

    Also, if you're wondering, the program works in a similar way (using prime numbers) with the following exceptions. The prime numbers are no longer individual variables, they're all put into a list variable called Q. x is set to 1 and then multiplied by a random value from Q. That random value is also set to m. A new list, W, is created by removing m from Q. x is then multiplied by a random value pulled from W, and m is set to this value. W is recreated from Q with the new m value, and the process just continues until x has been multiplied with 1 Q value and 36 W values. x is then divided by the product of the prime numbers in q, and the integer/non-integer thing is used again.

  12. #1332
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mojo View Post
    It seems as though both my approximation (29.1%) and your calculation (28.9%) were both pretty close when we didn't account for restriction on using the same two hour in a row. However, after adjusting my approximation code to accommodate for that factor, it came out to be 19.13% after 100,000 iterations, so your calculation may be off. It's much bulkier but goes legions faster because I figured out how to disable Maple from printing every line. I'll do 10 million iterations while I sleep tonight to make sure it's super precise, but I'm confident it's working correctly.

    19.13% is much lower than 35%, but in my defense I think everyone forgot about the "can't use a two hour twice in a row" factor, which is very significant. That changes the odds of AV not using a specific 2 hour in this case to (10/11)*(9/10)^36, which comes out to be 2.05%.

    Also, if you're wondering, the program works in a similar way (using prime numbers) with the following exceptions. The prime numbers are no longer individual variables, they're all put into a list variable called Q. x is set to 1 and then multiplied by a random value from Q. That random value is also set to m. A new list, W, is created by removing m from Q. x is then multiplied by a random value pulled from W, and m is set to this value. W is recreated from Q with the new m value, and the process just continues until x has been multiplied with 1 Q value and 36 W values. x is then divided by the product of the prime numbers in q, and the integer/non-integer thing is used again.
    Any chance you'd be able to post your actual code, especially if your result disagrees with my result. I'm certain my logic is correct, if there's an error, it was in me punching it into a calculator.

  13. #1333
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anthonystar View Post
    What's with the moogle? Never seen one in any CSs for sea.
    There's one in every single zone. You can see them with apradar on Show All usually.

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    Will AV meteor with his pets within 20 Yalms?

  15. #1335
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    10 million iterations yielded 21.08%, so your Math was right.

    Code:
    with(RandomTools);
    
    printlevel:=0;
    
    Q:={3,5,7,11,13,17,19,23,29,31,37};
    
    i:=1;
    
    num:=0;
    den:=0;
    
    for i from 1 to 10000000 do
    
    m:=Generate(choose(Q));
    if m=3 then n:=1 elif m=5 then n:=2 elif m=7 then n:=3 elif m=11 then n:=4 elif m=13 then n:=5 elif m=17 then n:=6 elif m=19 then n:=7 elif m=23 then n:=8 elif m=29 then n:=9 elif m=31 then n:=10 else n:=11 end if;
    x:=1*m;
    
    W:=subsop(n=NULL,Q);
    m:=Generate(choose(W));
    if m=3 then n:=1 elif m=5 then n:=2 elif m=7 then n:=3 elif m=11 then n:=4 elif m=13 then n:=5 elif m=17 then n:=6 elif m=19 then n:=7 elif m=23 then n:=8 elif m=29 then n:=9 elif m=31 then n:=10 else n:=11 end if;
    x:=x*m;
    
    W:=subsop(n=NULL,Q);
    m:=Generate(choose(W));
    if m=3 then n:=1 elif m=5 then n:=2 elif m=7 then n:=3 elif m=11 then n:=4 elif m=13 then n:=5 elif m=17 then n:=6 elif m=19 then n:=7 elif m=23 then n:=8 elif m=29 then n:=9 elif m=31 then n:=10 else n:=11 end if;
    x:=x*m;
    
    W:=subsop(n=NULL,Q);
    m:=Generate(choose(W));
    if m=3 then n:=1 elif m=5 then n:=2 elif m=7 then n:=3 elif m=11 then n:=4 elif m=13 then n:=5 elif m=17 then n:=6 elif m=19 then n:=7 elif m=23 then n:=8 elif m=29 then n:=9 elif m=31 then n:=10 else n:=11 end if;
    x:=x*m;
    
    W:=subsop(n=NULL,Q);
    m:=Generate(choose(W));
    if m=3 then n:=1 elif m=5 then n:=2 elif m=7 then n:=3 elif m=11 then n:=4 elif m=13 then n:=5 elif m=17 then n:=6 elif m=19 then n:=7 elif m=23 then n:=8 elif m=29 then n:=9 elif m=31 then n:=10 else n:=11 end if;
    x:=x*m;
    
    W:=subsop(n=NULL,Q);
    m:=Generate(choose(W));
    if m=3 then n:=1 elif m=5 then n:=2 elif m=7 then n:=3 elif m=11 then n:=4 elif m=13 then n:=5 elif m=17 then n:=6 elif m=19 then n:=7 elif m=23 then n:=8 elif m=29 then n:=9 elif m=31 then n:=10 else n:=11 end if;
    x:=x*m;
    
    W:=subsop(n=NULL,Q);
    m:=Generate(choose(W));
    if m=3 then n:=1 elif m=5 then n:=2 elif m=7 then n:=3 elif m=11 then n:=4 elif m=13 then n:=5 elif m=17 then n:=6 elif m=19 then n:=7 elif m=23 then n:=8 elif m=29 then n:=9 elif m=31 then n:=10 else n:=11 end if;
    x:=x*m;
    
    W:=subsop(n=NULL,Q);
    m:=Generate(choose(W));
    if m=3 then n:=1 elif m=5 then n:=2 elif m=7 then n:=3 elif m=11 then n:=4 elif m=13 then n:=5 elif m=17 then n:=6 elif m=19 then n:=7 elif m=23 then n:=8 elif m=29 then n:=9 elif m=31 then n:=10 else n:=11 end if;
    x:=x*m;
    
    W:=subsop(n=NULL,Q);
    m:=Generate(choose(W));
    if m=3 then n:=1 elif m=5 then n:=2 elif m=7 then n:=3 elif m=11 then n:=4 elif m=13 then n:=5 elif m=17 then n:=6 elif m=19 then n:=7 elif m=23 then n:=8 elif m=29 then n:=9 elif m=31 then n:=10 else n:=11 end if;
    x:=x*m;
    
    W:=subsop(n=NULL,Q);
    m:=Generate(choose(W));
    if m=3 then n:=1 elif m=5 then n:=2 elif m=7 then n:=3 elif m=11 then n:=4 elif m=13 then n:=5 elif m=17 then n:=6 elif m=19 then n:=7 elif m=23 then n:=8 elif m=29 then n:=9 elif m=31 then n:=10 else n:=11 end if;
    x:=x*m;
    
    W:=subsop(n=NULL,Q);
    m:=Generate(choose(W));
    if m=3 then n:=1 elif m=5 then n:=2 elif m=7 then n:=3 elif m=11 then n:=4 elif m=13 then n:=5 elif m=17 then n:=6 elif m=19 then n:=7 elif m=23 then n:=8 elif m=29 then n:=9 elif m=31 then n:=10 else n:=11 end if;
    x:=x*m;
    
    W:=subsop(n=NULL,Q);
    m:=Generate(choose(W));
    if m=3 then n:=1 elif m=5 then n:=2 elif m=7 then n:=3 elif m=11 then n:=4 elif m=13 then n:=5 elif m=17 then n:=6 elif m=19 then n:=7 elif m=23 then n:=8 elif m=29 then n:=9 elif m=31 then n:=10 else n:=11 end if;
    x:=x*m;
    
    W:=subsop(n=NULL,Q);
    m:=Generate(choose(W));
    if m=3 then n:=1 elif m=5 then n:=2 elif m=7 then n:=3 elif m=11 then n:=4 elif m=13 then n:=5 elif m=17 then n:=6 elif m=19 then n:=7 elif m=23 then n:=8 elif m=29 then n:=9 elif m=31 then n:=10 else n:=11 end if;
    x:=x*m;
    
    W:=subsop(n=NULL,Q);
    m:=Generate(choose(W));
    if m=3 then n:=1 elif m=5 then n:=2 elif m=7 then n:=3 elif m=11 then n:=4 elif m=13 then n:=5 elif m=17 then n:=6 elif m=19 then n:=7 elif m=23 then n:=8 elif m=29 then n:=9 elif m=31 then n:=10 else n:=11 end if;
    x:=x*m;
    
    W:=subsop(n=NULL,Q);
    m:=Generate(choose(W));
    if m=3 then n:=1 elif m=5 then n:=2 elif m=7 then n:=3 elif m=11 then n:=4 elif m=13 then n:=5 elif m=17 then n:=6 elif m=19 then n:=7 elif m=23 then n:=8 elif m=29 then n:=9 elif m=31 then n:=10 else n:=11 end if;
    x:=x*m;
    
    W:=subsop(n=NULL,Q);
    m:=Generate(choose(W));
    if m=3 then n:=1 elif m=5 then n:=2 elif m=7 then n:=3 elif m=11 then n:=4 elif m=13 then n:=5 elif m=17 then n:=6 elif m=19 then n:=7 elif m=23 then n:=8 elif m=29 then n:=9 elif m=31 then n:=10 else n:=11 end if;
    x:=x*m;
    
    W:=subsop(n=NULL,Q);
    m:=Generate(choose(W));
    if m=3 then n:=1 elif m=5 then n:=2 elif m=7 then n:=3 elif m=11 then n:=4 elif m=13 then n:=5 elif m=17 then n:=6 elif m=19 then n:=7 elif m=23 then n:=8 elif m=29 then n:=9 elif m=31 then n:=10 else n:=11 end if;
    x:=x*m;
    
    W:=subsop(n=NULL,Q);
    m:=Generate(choose(W));
    if m=3 then n:=1 elif m=5 then n:=2 elif m=7 then n:=3 elif m=11 then n:=4 elif m=13 then n:=5 elif m=17 then n:=6 elif m=19 then n:=7 elif m=23 then n:=8 elif m=29 then n:=9 elif m=31 then n:=10 else n:=11 end if;
    x:=x*m;
    
    W:=subsop(n=NULL,Q);
    m:=Generate(choose(W));
    if m=3 then n:=1 elif m=5 then n:=2 elif m=7 then n:=3 elif m=11 then n:=4 elif m=13 then n:=5 elif m=17 then n:=6 elif m=19 then n:=7 elif m=23 then n:=8 elif m=29 then n:=9 elif m=31 then n:=10 else n:=11 end if;
    x:=x*m;
    
    W:=subsop(n=NULL,Q);
    m:=Generate(choose(W));
    if m=3 then n:=1 elif m=5 then n:=2 elif m=7 then n:=3 elif m=11 then n:=4 elif m=13 then n:=5 elif m=17 then n:=6 elif m=19 then n:=7 elif m=23 then n:=8 elif m=29 then n:=9 elif m=31 then n:=10 else n:=11 end if;
    x:=x*m;
    
    W:=subsop(n=NULL,Q);
    m:=Generate(choose(W));
    if m=3 then n:=1 elif m=5 then n:=2 elif m=7 then n:=3 elif m=11 then n:=4 elif m=13 then n:=5 elif m=17 then n:=6 elif m=19 then n:=7 elif m=23 then n:=8 elif m=29 then n:=9 elif m=31 then n:=10 else n:=11 end if;
    x:=x*m;
    
    W:=subsop(n=NULL,Q);
    m:=Generate(choose(W));
    if m=3 then n:=1 elif m=5 then n:=2 elif m=7 then n:=3 elif m=11 then n:=4 elif m=13 then n:=5 elif m=17 then n:=6 elif m=19 then n:=7 elif m=23 then n:=8 elif m=29 then n:=9 elif m=31 then n:=10 else n:=11 end if;
    x:=x*m;
    
    W:=subsop(n=NULL,Q);
    m:=Generate(choose(W));
    if m=3 then n:=1 elif m=5 then n:=2 elif m=7 then n:=3 elif m=11 then n:=4 elif m=13 then n:=5 elif m=17 then n:=6 elif m=19 then n:=7 elif m=23 then n:=8 elif m=29 then n:=9 elif m=31 then n:=10 else n:=11 end if;
    x:=x*m;
    
    W:=subsop(n=NULL,Q);
    m:=Generate(choose(W));
    if m=3 then n:=1 elif m=5 then n:=2 elif m=7 then n:=3 elif m=11 then n:=4 elif m=13 then n:=5 elif m=17 then n:=6 elif m=19 then n:=7 elif m=23 then n:=8 elif m=29 then n:=9 elif m=31 then n:=10 else n:=11 end if;
    x:=x*m;
    
    W:=subsop(n=NULL,Q);
    m:=Generate(choose(W));
    if m=3 then n:=1 elif m=5 then n:=2 elif m=7 then n:=3 elif m=11 then n:=4 elif m=13 then n:=5 elif m=17 then n:=6 elif m=19 then n:=7 elif m=23 then n:=8 elif m=29 then n:=9 elif m=31 then n:=10 else n:=11 end if;
    x:=x*m;
    
    W:=subsop(n=NULL,Q);
    m:=Generate(choose(W));
    if m=3 then n:=1 elif m=5 then n:=2 elif m=7 then n:=3 elif m=11 then n:=4 elif m=13 then n:=5 elif m=17 then n:=6 elif m=19 then n:=7 elif m=23 then n:=8 elif m=29 then n:=9 elif m=31 then n:=10 else n:=11 end if;
    x:=x*m;
    
    W:=subsop(n=NULL,Q);
    m:=Generate(choose(W));
    if m=3 then n:=1 elif m=5 then n:=2 elif m=7 then n:=3 elif m=11 then n:=4 elif m=13 then n:=5 elif m=17 then n:=6 elif m=19 then n:=7 elif m=23 then n:=8 elif m=29 then n:=9 elif m=31 then n:=10 else n:=11 end if;
    x:=x*m;
    
    W:=subsop(n=NULL,Q);
    m:=Generate(choose(W));
    if m=3 then n:=1 elif m=5 then n:=2 elif m=7 then n:=3 elif m=11 then n:=4 elif m=13 then n:=5 elif m=17 then n:=6 elif m=19 then n:=7 elif m=23 then n:=8 elif m=29 then n:=9 elif m=31 then n:=10 else n:=11 end if;
    x:=x*m;
    
    W:=subsop(n=NULL,Q);
    m:=Generate(choose(W));
    if m=3 then n:=1 elif m=5 then n:=2 elif m=7 then n:=3 elif m=11 then n:=4 elif m=13 then n:=5 elif m=17 then n:=6 elif m=19 then n:=7 elif m=23 then n:=8 elif m=29 then n:=9 elif m=31 then n:=10 else n:=11 end if;
    x:=x*m;
    
    W:=subsop(n=NULL,Q);
    m:=Generate(choose(W));
    if m=3 then n:=1 elif m=5 then n:=2 elif m=7 then n:=3 elif m=11 then n:=4 elif m=13 then n:=5 elif m=17 then n:=6 elif m=19 then n:=7 elif m=23 then n:=8 elif m=29 then n:=9 elif m=31 then n:=10 else n:=11 end if;
    x:=x*m;
    
    W:=subsop(n=NULL,Q);
    m:=Generate(choose(W));
    if m=3 then n:=1 elif m=5 then n:=2 elif m=7 then n:=3 elif m=11 then n:=4 elif m=13 then n:=5 elif m=17 then n:=6 elif m=19 then n:=7 elif m=23 then n:=8 elif m=29 then n:=9 elif m=31 then n:=10 else n:=11 end if;
    x:=x*m;
    
    W:=subsop(n=NULL,Q);
    m:=Generate(choose(W));
    if m=3 then n:=1 elif m=5 then n:=2 elif m=7 then n:=3 elif m=11 then n:=4 elif m=13 then n:=5 elif m=17 then n:=6 elif m=19 then n:=7 elif m=23 then n:=8 elif m=29 then n:=9 elif m=31 then n:=10 else n:=11 end if;
    x:=x*m;
    
    W:=subsop(n=NULL,Q);
    m:=Generate(choose(W));
    if m=3 then n:=1 elif m=5 then n:=2 elif m=7 then n:=3 elif m=11 then n:=4 elif m=13 then n:=5 elif m=17 then n:=6 elif m=19 then n:=7 elif m=23 then n:=8 elif m=29 then n:=9 elif m=31 then n:=10 else n:=11 end if;
    x:=x*m;
    
    W:=subsop(n=NULL,Q);
    m:=Generate(choose(W));
    if m=3 then n:=1 elif m=5 then n:=2 elif m=7 then n:=3 elif m=11 then n:=4 elif m=13 then n:=5 elif m=17 then n:=6 elif m=19 then n:=7 elif m=23 then n:=8 elif m=29 then n:=9 elif m=31 then n:=10 else n:=11 end if;
    x:=x*m;
    
    W:=subsop(n=NULL,Q);
    m:=Generate(choose(W));
    if m=3 then n:=1 elif m=5 then n:=2 elif m=7 then n:=3 elif m=11 then n:=4 elif m=13 then n:=5 elif m=17 then n:=6 elif m=19 then n:=7 elif m=23 then n:=8 elif m=29 then n:=9 elif m=31 then n:=10 else n:=11 end if;
    x:=x*m;
    
    W:=subsop(n=NULL,Q);
    m:=Generate(choose(W));
    if m=3 then n:=1 elif m=5 then n:=2 elif m=7 then n:=3 elif m=11 then n:=4 elif m=13 then n:=5 elif m=17 then n:=6 elif m=19 then n:=7 elif m=23 then n:=8 elif m=29 then n:=9 elif m=31 then n:=10 else n:=11 end if;
    x:=x*m;
    
    W:=subsop(n=NULL,Q);
    m:=Generate(choose(W));
    if m=3 then n:=1 elif m=5 then n:=2 elif m=7 then n:=3 elif m=11 then n:=4 elif m=13 then n:=5 elif m=17 then n:=6 elif m=19 then n:=7 elif m=23 then n:=8 elif m=29 then n:=9 elif m=31 then n:=10 else n:=11 end if;
    x:=x*m;
    
    if type((x/(3*5*7*11*13*17*19*23*29*31*37)), integer) = false then z:=1 else z:=0 end if;
    
    num:=num+z;
    den:=den+1;
    
    end do;
    
    evalf[4]((100*num)/den);
    Putting the W function into is own for statement would be ideal since I wouldn't have had to repeat it 36 times, but for some reason Maple got pissed when I did that so it's unnecessarily long.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shepardG View Post
    Will AV meteor with his pets within 20 Yalms?
    I'd laugh so hard if that was the key. Keep other Aerns closeby and he won't Meteor, haha.

    Probably not, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mojo View Post
    I don't remember them ever being there.
    They were. I remember seeing them when trying to .dat mod aerns for their jobs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thorny View Post
    They were. I remember seeing them when trying to .dat mod aerns for their jobs.
    Any idea when they were taken off the DAT list?

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    I have no clue, I attempted to do the .dat mod around when first AV theories were coming out, so could have been anytime in the last 2 years or so :/ Regardless, if they aren't in .dats any more then they aren't worth thinking about.

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    I did that Al'Taieu DAT study before the AV videos were released (back when AV threads were all just random theories) and they certainly were not there at that time, so if they did ever exist it was before then. There are still private messages in my outbox that date back to this time, so it's not just from memory. If they did exist (which I still honestly don't think that they did,) they were taken out years ago.

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