Fuck Druids

[Day]

Even linked you a vid of it played properly.

[Krye]

Arcane isn't too bad, but frost has retarded CC and burst damage. Every time somebody attacks you they get snared, every time you attack them you snare them with a chance to root them, every time they break through your shield they get rooted, you have extra spells you can use to root or snare, you have a 5 second stun, and you have polymorph and counterspell.

You have a +50% crit chance against frozen targets and each of your chill effects has a 15% chance to treat your target as if it is frozen for the next 5 seconds and each of your chill effects has a 15% chance to treat your next two spells as if your target is frozen.

Seriously though, who the fuck thought it would be a good idea to give frost mages +50% crit chance on top of their natural crit and +5% crit from Winter's Chill?

Frost mages also activate replenishment every time they frostbolt, which restores 1% of your maximum mana every 5 seconds, and their frostbolt reduces healing received by their target by 20%.

[Blarg]

Never fought a mage that can kite, have you? FFXI RDM soloing did something good for me I guess. I feel that I play mage much in the same way as I did RDM for soloing and PvP I guess. Its really not that hard to fuck up rogues.

All a rogue has to do is hit you once or twice to get poisons on you. You said that it's bad when a rogue gets poisons on you but getting poisons on someone happens basically 100% of the time.

If you get an opener on a rogue he is basically half dead already and that hardly counts as beating a rogue, just in case you thought opening on a out of stealth rogue from 30 yards is beating them.

[Senoska]

I agree but having to stop to cast is such a pain in the ass. Not to mention the only way you can get someone slowed is by them hitting you or you stoping to cast. I don't like that. I much rather just cast Slow on them and keep out of range and on the move. For the record, I'm dual speced frost and arc and I do enjoy frost in pvp but it has some risks with it. While you can root/slow with a retarded amount of spells, you're still bound by stopping to cast. Although you could always root + stun if worst came to worst.. Iunno.. They both have advantages, however, back to the original topic, fuck druids. Frost is fucking useless against those niggers.

[Senoska]

All a rogue has to do is hit you once or twice to get poisons on you. You said that it's bad when a rogue gets poisons on you but getting poisons on someone happens basically 100% of the time.

If you get an opener on a rogue he is basically half dead already and that hardly counts as beating a rogue, just in case you thought opening on a out of stealth rogue from 30 yards is beating them.

I can let them sap me and still beat them. Just break sap with ice block and immediately cancel it and throw them out of invis with an AOE. It doesn't always work and you gotta know when they're about to smack you. At that point they are pretty much fucked.

Also, why does me getting the first shot not = me beating them? Because they are a squishy sponge? Winning is winning, homedawg.

[Senoska]

Also, as I said before, there are times when rogues will shit stomp you and times where they wont. It depends. WoW pvp is pretty much "Who fucks up first." Each class has something to counter the next, really. Cept druids, not much mages can do about that shit. Fuck Druids.

[Senoska]

Really? A fucking tree? Wow, that's cool.

[Blarg]

Claiming you beat a rogue when they start out of stealth is like beating casters oom and beast hunters with no pet.

[Day]

You're pretty awful and it shows in your posts. Can't stop to cast? lol.

[Senoska]

So by being rogue, you get first shot automatically, and if they don't, you didn't beat them?

Fuck your shit, faggot, that's not how this works. Use Vanish.

[Senoska]

You're pretty awful and it shows in your posts. Can't stop to cast? lol.

I never said I can't, I said I rather not.

[Senoska]

Also, Krye, don't forget the pet with a root as well.

[Day]

Blarg is right. Opening on an unstealthed Rogue will never be considered a win.

[Senoska]

What ever you say, lol.

[Day]

So you play arcane and never cast arcane blast? Have you even read the spell description? You just pom pyro and barrage/fire blast over and over lol? Also seems like you forgot about Cone of Cold completely in your "I has to stop to cast" rant.

[Krye]

Cone of cold, frost nova, and ice lance are instant.

But if you want to get back to talking about how nothing is useful against a druid, I agree.

Even if those niggers are feral, they fucking go immune to my fear and rip me apart in like two seconds because you can't fucking peel them. And you can't fucking kill a feral because he just shifts into bear form and pops some cooldowns and he has like 40K health and he heals a shit ton.

Tree druids are fucking immune to half the CC in the game and they don't have to cast to heal and their heals heal even while they're CC'd.

Boomkins are lol.

[Blarg]

that's how it works dawg

[Day]

Also deep freeze is not only a stun, but it also treats the target as frozen, a pet freeze shatter combo > deep freeze shatter combo is an enormous amount of burst but I'd be surprised if you even knew how to shatter combo.

[Krye]

When you go against a good mage/rogue team, even if you could heal(which you can't because of polymorph and counterspell) it doesn't matter because you don't have any time to heal. It's not like mage/rogue does 8K damage a second killing somebody over the course of a few seconds, what actually happens is they kill somebody in one instant. You will literally just fucking drop. A frostbolt/ice lance combo will do about 15K damage and since it's cast followed by instant, it hits all at once.

[Senoska]

So you play arcane and never cast arcane blast? Have you even read the spell description? You just pom pyro and barrage/fire blast over and over lol? Also seems like you forgot about Cone of Cold completely in your "I has to stop to cast" rant.

Cone of cold is a direct spell, you gotta be within a certain range.. I cast Arcane blast but I have a really decent array of insta-cast shit at my disposal as to where frost has some instacast but the targets have to be rooted. I'm not saying frost is unreasonable but standing for your main damage without a reasonable amount of insta-cast damage suuuuuuuucks. You of course make up for it with a ton of binds, but when they are broken as fast as you can cast them you're pretty fucked. So it narrows down to your 5 second stun which is nice but still.

I like being able to move and not let them get within melee range at all of me. I'd make a video but I don't want to install Fraps to screencaps for ya.