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    Not a bad episode but it did not feel quite as epic as some of the other season premieres (I missed Wayward Son in the intro). Looking forward to how Mark Pellegrino does as Lucifer. I liked his character in Dexter even though he was a wife beating loser. Also, I am starting to get tired of all the angst between Dean and Sam. I mean one started the Apocalypse and the other finished it. I hope they put everything behind them soon and get back to kicking demon ass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yaminabe View Post
    Not a bad episode but it did not feel quite as epic as some of the other season premieres (I missed Wayward Son in the intro). Looking forward to how Mark Pellegrino does as Lucifer. I liked his character in Dexter even though he was a wife beating loser. Also, I am starting to get tired of all the angst between Dean and Sam. I mean one started the Apocalypse and the other finished it. I hope they put everything behind them soon and get back to kicking demon ass.
    Them reconciling will probably be the key to them actually defeating Lucifer.

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    Doesn't Carry on my Wayward Son just play on the Season Finale, and not the premiere?

    Also the full episode is now on The CW's official site, in case anyone was waiting for that:

    Supernatural Video - Supernatural: Sympathy For The Devil

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    thats what I thought
    (about the song)

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArchDizzle View Post
    Hmm, could be either or at this point.
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    It's hard to believe it could be a fake Castiel. Did you see how worried Zach looked (after he asked Castiel how he came back) before he peaced out after Castiel killed his hench-angels with what looks like the same type (or same) sword Uriel used on angels last year? What has the juice to bring back an angel that was turned into "a balloon of chunky soup" that exploded (Chuck's words)? Hint: God. That isn't something Lucifer is capable of (the bringing Castiel back part). I think it's possible, but slim, that Lucifer put the boys on the plane, but more likely that it was God that both brought back Castiel and put the boys on the plane, and was "no longer in the building" last season, probably because he was playing Skee-ball with Michael in New Jersey somewhere. I think the major problem God has with what Zach is doing is he didn't sanction it, and they sped up the timeline for the Apocalypse, so he finally is acting to prevent it. Dean being Michael's "angel condom" is more worrisome.. I don't want a superpowered Dean to kill or cast out/lock up Lucifer again.. as fun as it would be to see Michael. I'd rather Dean figure something out as a human and do it, or Michael take possession but leave Dean in the driver's seat.. I don't know...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Talus View Post
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    It's hard to believe it could be a fake Castiel. Did you see how worried Zach looked (after he asked Castiel how he came back) before he peaced out after Castiel killed his hench-angels with what looks like the same type (or same) sword Uriel used on angels last year? What has the juice to bring back an angel that was turned into "a balloon of chunky soup" that exploded (Chuck's words)? Hint: God. That isn't something Lucifer is capable of (the bringing Castiel back part). I think it's possible, but slim, that Lucifer put the boys on the plane, but more likely that it was God that both brought back Castiel and put the boys on the plane, and was "no longer in the building" last season, probably because he was playing Skee-ball with Michael in New Jersey somewhere. I think the major problem God has with what Zach is doing is he didn't sanction it, and they sped up the timeline for the Apocalypse, so he finally is acting to prevent it. Dean being Michael's "angel condom" is more worrisome.. I don't want a superpowered Dean to kill or cast out/lock up Lucifer again.. as fun as it would be to see Michael. I'd rather Dean figure something out as a human and do it, or Michael take possession but leave Dean in the driver's seat.. I don't know...
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    I agree with you and hope that it's a fake, head fake. I got the same impression from Zach's reaction as you did. I also really, really don't want them to have Dean super powered or taken control of for half the season. Seeing Michael would be cool but hopefully not at the expense of losing the awesome that is Dean.

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    Now that I think about it you're probably right about Wayward Son.

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    The only reason I think it could be a head fake, is because it felt like it wasn't, like it was designed to make you think 'oh shit~ well look at that', i.e: you're so absorbed in the moment, because it looks so authentic, that you wouldn't think it was fake.... Which is what would make it such an awesome fake Imo it's 50/50!

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    Ok as far as fake/head fake, how would that drive the narrative forward? What would be the point? The only worthwhile thing I can think of is if that wasn't actually Castiel but God in the guise of Castiel. Now that would be crazy. I don't want God as an active character, and I don't think anything done by God would be on-screen but the teleport up to the plane and Castiel revival (and Chuck not knowing about it) seems to point to the Big Guy.

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    "I'm getting too old for this" had to be a Lethal Weapon joke right?

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    crazy episode. seems like a lot more commercial than normal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Qalbert View Post
    "I'm getting too old for this" had to be a Lethal Weapon joke right?
    rufus isn't danny glover.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FNH View Post
    rufus isn't danny glover.
    so? since when does a joke have to be made by the actor who originally said it?
    if I yelled KHAAAAAAAAANNN it would still be a star trek joke even though I'm not shatner.

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    I don't know if I want to love or hate Eric Kripke for how this season of Supernatural is going so far. It's so amazing, yet so confusing and filled with surprises and we're only two episodes in. Felt more like an old episode to me, like season 2 type feel...

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    I chuckled too, at the beginning when Cas was in the hospital with the boys and over the pa they had "Dr. Collins please report to the ER."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Qalbert View Post
    so? since when does a joke have to be made by the actor who originally said it?
    if I yelled KHAAAAAAAAANNN it would still be a star trek joke even though I'm not shatner.
    well Khan is iconic. "I'm getting too old for this" is not, better lines from Lethal Weapon, I think you thought it was danny glover.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Selamis View Post
    I don't know if I want to love or hate Eric Kripke for how this season of Supernatural is going so far. It's so amazing, yet so confusing and filled with surprises and we're only two episodes in. Felt more like an old episode to me, like season 2 type feel...

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    Episode felt a little weird, I don't understand if God saved the boys and ressurected Cas why the fuck would he bring Cas back but strip him of some of his powers? The war stuff was cool, and and the "I'm getting too old for this shit" was without a doubt a Danny Glover reference. The end was very wtf, you can't take a timeout during the apocolypse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArchDizzle View Post
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    Episode felt a little weird, I don't understand if God saved the boys and ressurected Cas why the fuck would he bring Cas back but strip him of some of his powers? The war stuff was cool, and and the "I'm getting too old for this shit" was without a doubt a Danny Glover reference. The end was very wtf, you can't take a timeout during the apocolypse.
    not really a timeout. It was more of a I'm keeping you from doing your work well kind of thing. Like if Lois left Clark so he could focus on saving the world, not looking out for her, kind of thing

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    Quote Originally Posted by Qalbert View Post
    not really a timeout. It was more of a I'm keeping you from doing your work well kind of thing. Like if Lois left Clark so he could focus on saving the world, not looking out for her, kind of thing
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    Ya but Lois can't do shit to help Clark, Sam isn't a damsel and distress, he has some issues he needs to deal with it but he pulls half the weight in there duo, If he isn't gonna stick around and help Dean deal with the apocolypse then he's either going to do nothing which is unlikely, or go at it on his own which makes him more vulnerable and both of them less effective.

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    I still think the reasoning is valid, albeit disappointing.

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