which is more rude

**Howard Roark** · 2009-09-11 01:46

welcome to my favorite thread in a while shiro

**Howard Roark** · 2009-09-11 01:47

and ivve spend that extra money on plane tickets and motels and let's have at it

**Shiroikage** · 2009-09-11 01:49

I want to type up something because this stuff is quite close to my heart but I really am quite late to this.

Perhaps I will.

**Howard Roark** · 2009-09-11 01:51

you strike me as the opposite of a nihilist I think

**Howard Roark** · 2009-09-11 01:52

or is it revenge upon annoying neighbours that is close to your heart lol

**Shiroikage** · 2009-09-11 01:54

This may come as a surprise but I believe that everything is utterly meaningless.

**Shiroikage** · 2009-09-11 01:57

But you are definitely right.
I am not a nihilist.

**Howard Roark** · 2009-09-11 02:00

and yet you do and say such meaningful things:)

life may be ultimately meaningless but I have yet to meet someone whose actions seem to be acted out as though meaningless within this lifetime

why does a lack of afterlife immediately imply a negation of meaning within life itself?

seriously, there's so many goddamned morons here in my present life, what do I care for impressing morons from the future?

**Kiro** · 2009-09-11 02:02

They may have futuristic moron treasure.

**Colenzo** · 2009-09-11 02:03

Originally Posted by Howard Roark

and yet you do and say such meaningful things:)

life may be ultimately meaningless but I have yet to meet someone whose actions seem to be acted out as though meaningless within this lifetime

why does a lack of afterlife immediately imply a negation of meaning within life itself?

seriously, there's so many goddamned morons here in my present life, what do I care for impressing morons from the future?

Why would there be a meaning to life?

**Howard Roark** · 2009-09-11 02:06

Originally Posted by Colenzo

Why would there be a meaning to life?

people that believe in an afterlife are often viewed by more sardonic people as needing to believe in an afterlife in order to give their life meaning, that their actions in this life somehow earn their way into the correct afterlife according to their doctrines and beliefs

your question is more complicated than you may have intended/than I know how to answer easily, so I'll let you reply with a more specific question so I know where/how to proceed

**Shiroikage** · 2009-09-11 02:16

The closest thing that there is to a meaning of life is the transfer of genetic information.

**BRP** · 2009-09-11 02:23

you niggas crazy

Life is neither meaningful or meaningless.

**Howard Roark** · 2009-09-11 02:35

somedays it feels meaningless and others it doesn't

**Howard Roark** · 2009-09-11 02:35

I like the ones it doesn't, but that doesn't mean it does

**Colenzo** · 2009-09-11 02:37

Originally Posted by Howard Roark

people that believe in an afterlife are often viewed by more sardonic people as needing to believe in an afterlife in order to give their life meaning, that their actions in this life somehow earn their way into the correct afterlife achttp://www.bluegartr.com/forum/images/smilies/cake.jpgcording to their doctrines and beliefs

your question is more complicated than you may have intended/than I know how to answer easily, so I'll let you reply with a more specific question so I know where/how to proceed

Why does grass grow, why does microbial life exist? Life exists in all shapes and forms, most of which doesnt have a reason to exist on its own. Why do we need a reason to exist? There was a period in time where our species didn't exist, so why do we need a reason to exist? We are just a far more developed race of life. Comets and asteroids or any random gamma-ray burst could kill us all. Live life day to day, there doesn't have to be a reason for what happens. If we had a reason to exist we would be in The Matrix or something along those lines of predetermined existence. Nobody wants a guy that doesn't change facial expressions as their savior right?

**Shiroikage** · 2009-09-11 02:39

There is going to be a tl;dr bleeding heart bomb dropped in this thread in the near future.

**Howard Roark** · 2009-09-11 02:40

if it's by you I'll read it

**Colenzo** · 2009-09-11 02:42

HOW COULD THIS HAPPEN TO MEEEEEEE

**Howard Roark** · 2009-09-11 02:44

Originally Posted by Colenzo

Why does grass grow, why does microbial life exist? Life exists in all shapes and forms, most of which doesnt have a reason to exist on its own. Why do we need a reason to exist? There was a period in time where our species didn't exist, so why do we need a reason to exist? We are just a far more developed race of life. Comets and asteroids or any random gamma-ray burst could kill us all. Live life day to day, there doesn't have to be a reason for what happens. If we had a reason to exist we would be in The Matrix or something along those lines of predetermined existence. Nobody wants a guy that doesn't change facial expressions as their savior right?

in all honesty, I don't think in terms of meaning, or whether my life has meaning

do I get concerned that I'm 28 and haven't had a kid yet? that I'm not married yet? that I blew too much time on ffxi? that I don't have a home in my name yet?

sure

do I think about that One True Love, First Loves, Meant to Be? well.. no not really since the One I thought it would be, wasn't

does this mean my life has less value?

this question is foreign to me; I'd be putting parameters on my thoughts that I didn't originally think my thoughts in terms of

honestly, I really don't think ahead much, other than the next 2-3 years, and in my darkest times I was asked once, on a date, what I wanted to do before I died, and I was shocked to find that I had so little hopes for the future that I had zero response to her question, and had to create one on the spot

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