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  1. #1421
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    Askar Body Sam seems pretty gimp to me.

  2. #1422
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    Quote Originally Posted by avelle View Post
    no 6hit Askar Body Sam seems pretty gimp to me.
    askar can be acceptable if you need it for 6hit

  3. #1423
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    Quote Originally Posted by seiji View Post
    askar can be acceptable if you need it for 6hit
    most sam's dont know they got a 6 hit even when they are wearing the right gear.

  4. #1424
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    Quote Originally Posted by seiji View Post
    still doing it wrong!!!
    Could've just quoted my post about him not being the greatest SAM without trying to show how clever you are.

  5. #1425
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evane View Post
    cleaver
    http://www.takeourword.com/images/cleaver.jpg



    occasionally attacks 2-3 times
    additional effect: dismemberment

  6. #1426
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    I lol'd

  7. #1427
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    Quote Originally Posted by seiji View Post
    askar can be acceptable if you need it for 6hit
    Hachi Hands + Haub+1?

  8. #1428
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    Real men (without usukane feet) use rose strap and ecphoria ring.

    (That way you can have your haste and 6-hit it, too)

  9. #1429
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    Does anyone remember when Askar body came out and you were all like "Yeaaaa I can get my +5 STP from that body with 2% DA because everyone says DA is cool and have a 6-hit build with 20% haste!" And then you got it and you were like "Yeaaaaaaaa I'm hitting really fast and getting tp fast ... but why am I missing?" And then you looked at the gimp sam running by you in a domaru, and you realized Askar was actually Askaruuuuu, and you were like "Bawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww"

    Because I do.

    Point is, unless you're eating sushi (Which you shouldn't be), You're not going to get the hit cap with an askar body, and by the time you get Usukane feet, you no longer need it anyways.

  10. #1430
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andradi View Post
    Real men (without usukane feet) use rose strap and ecphoria ring.

    (That way you can have your haste and 6-hit it, too)
    I don't understand why I always see people suggest this when you can just as easily use Rose Strap and a real acc ring as long as you ws in hachi feet. So you lose 1-2 str on ws in favor of 1-3 acc during tp phase. I'd rather have the acc but maybe I'm wrong?

  11. #1431
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theraven View Post
    I don't understand why I always see people suggest this when you can just as easily use Rose Strap and a real acc ring as long as you ws in hachi feet. So you lose 1-2 str on ws in favor of 1-3 acc during tp phase. I'd rather have the acc but maybe I'm wrong?
    Good point. I hadn't thought it that much but if you WS in any pieces of the hachiman set you can swap ecphoria for whatever.

    If you do need sTP though, Ecphoria is one the smallest sacrifices for a point of sTP. I use one with Subduer (among other items) to 7-hit it.

  12. #1432
    But I don't want my title changed
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theraven View Post
    I don't understand why I always see people suggest this when you can just as easily use Rose Strap and a real acc ring as long as you ws in hachi feet. So you lose 1-2 str on ws in favor of 1-3 acc during tp phase. I'd rather have the acc but maybe I'm wrong?
    No, you're right.

  13. #1433
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silenka View Post
    http://www.takeourword.com/images/cleaver.jpg



    occasionally attacks 2-3 times
    additional effect: dismemberment
    Here....let me borrow that for someone a few posts up....

    works quite well, thank you.

  14. #1434
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    ACP Body (ACC+10/STP+4) + Ecphoria is also a viable solution people seem to leave out. You could use Rose Strap in place of ring I guess (or even Hachi Feet for WS as posted), but I'd hate losing Pole Grip.

    Anyway, that SAM is far from deserving to be in this thread.

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    And Rose Strap can be a pain to get since you need the max rank for it. I am working on getting the rank atm but the 5 day wait sucks.

    The SAM doesn't deserve to be in this thread imo, way more really confused people out there to post.

    He does need more store TP in his WS set though, if he had more Store TP during his TP phase he'd get a larger return after WS and would get away with 7 in his WS set.

  16. #1436
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    Garnett Ring, Thundercloud, Physical Earring, Bone Earring +1, Campaign for life. I do give him small props for at least making efforts to camp NMs for rare/ex shit unlike most gimps. Red ponytail elf is fucking ugly as well.

  17. #1437
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vyerz View Post
    Point is, unless you're eating sushi (Which you shouldn't be), You're not going to get the hit cap with an askar body, and by the time you get Usukane feet, you no longer need it anyways.
    there is not just one mob in this game, every mob need different amount of acc to cap; with elite gear ou can get up to 440 ACC with askar body and pizza, so there are many situation where it's good, acc is rarely an issue for a clever askar sam. But a hauby sam will always have much more attack ( even pizza) thats why hauby is "slightly" better. I think its below 380ish acc needed that askar body is better than any set up ( dynamis limbus etc).

  18. #1438
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    Quote Originally Posted by tommygunnz View Post
    http://i34.tinypic.com/ac4hll.jpg


    Garnett Ring, Thundercloud, Physical Earring, Bone Earring +1, Campaign for life. I do give him small props for at least making efforts to camp NMs for rare/ex shit unlike most gimps. Red ponytail elf is fucking ugly as well.
    Isn't that... Windy....? I know most of us hate that lil town... but it is still considered town... right?

  19. #1439
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    It'd be past windy, debatable as a town, you can technically do battle there.

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    God damn I love BG.

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