Random Fail IV: I love you Random Fail, forever.

[Kipling]

"I don't want to fight anything that dies in 3 seconds". No, I'm gonna disagree with you here, the guy specifically wants bad exp, probably because he doesn't believe in haste gear and is slow to engage, and gets bored when good players kill each mob with him only swinging once.

Guess I'm the only one who likes meriting in the past occasionally (La Vaule, mostly) to try earning it back.. Not very fast, but it's fun;;

[Mazmaz]

Guess I'm the only one who likes meriting in the past occasionally (La Vaule, mostly) to try earning it back.. Not very fast, but it's fun;;

Meriting there doesn't help take over it, does it? I've merited there before and it didn't affect influence. I mean you don't even get AN from it.

[Shenrien]

Guess I'm the only one who likes meriting in the past occasionally (La Vaule, mostly) to try earning it back.. Not very fast, but it's fun;;

na I've tried meriting in Xarcabard [S] .. I suggest you don't really attempt this, its good exp, got about 20k/hr on expwatch before Greater Amphiptere landed on us and killed us all, this was about 30 minutes into the party and we drifted from where we originally set up camp.

[Kipling]

Meriting there doesn't help take over it, does it? I've merited there before and it didn't affect influence. I mean you don't even get AN from it.

Well, you merit when campaign isn't up. Which while rare, happens. That and campaign gets old and killing the normal mobs are better exp, lol.

Edit: If I wasn't clear, there are NM's in La Vaule that aren't campaign related and if you kill them it basically lowers the strength of campaigns that come in. So in a way that does it... Nm's like this.

http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Ashmaker_Gotblut

I've been told it helps anyway, not sure if it's 100%.

[FailureMidgard]

Well if you 'kinda' want to level WAR, would you not rather take the gil? Just saying because you might never end up leveling WAR, whereas you can always find a use for gil.

10mil gil divided by 18 people is a whopping 555k per person. For a 3hr window, and it drops one in what, 3-4? That's some pretty awful gil for the manhours spent.

If someone wants to pay what the item is worth, yes I'd rather the shell have the gil. 10mil is not really a lot of gil for a LS that is selling ebodies in general though, so if someone is offering garbage, I'd rather have the item. And my "kinda" want to level war is a kinda because I specifically don't want to level it and be gimp. I "will" want to level war if I get ebody/heca hand/aurum feet.

I'm not greedy, really, but I don't see a reason to give an item to someone for dirt cheap if people in the shell want it, having an ebody is some nice motivation for someone to level war or drk. And besides, you sell it once for 10m, then everyone wants it for 10m and refuses to buy it at 40m. The goal of course is a nice equilibrium price where you never run out of buyers, but make as much as you can, I think that's higher than 10m, honestly.

[Zazel]

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Ninja'd Askar Feet

[Argettio]

http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s...022_140202.jpg

He really thought we'd sell E.body for 10m....

I don't care about is pricing of the e.body, but love his reply...

That's far better than his fail

[Dooom]

Ninja'd Askar Feet

Made me laugh how you said he would, and then he did. What a fail thing to ninja.

[Sev]

10mil gil divided by 18 people is a whopping 555k per person. For a 3hr window, and it drops one in what, 3-4? That's some pretty awful gil for the manhours spent.

If someone wants to pay what the item is worth, yes I'd rather the shell have the gil. 10mil is not really a lot of gil for a LS that is selling ebodies in general though, so if someone is offering garbage, I'd rather have the item. And my "kinda" want to level war is a kinda because I specifically don't want to level it and be gimp. I "will" want to level war if I get ebody/heca hand/aurum feet.

I'm not greedy, really, but I don't see a reason to give an item to someone for dirt cheap if people in the shell want it, having an ebody is some nice motivation for someone to level war or drk. And besides, you sell it once for 10m, then everyone wants it for 10m and refuses to buy it at 40m. The goal of course is a nice equilibrium price where you never run out of buyers, but make as much as you can, I think that's higher than 10m, honestly.

You kinda got it backwards, Ebody is a nice reward for someone who has war or drk. Having the mentality that a shell should give me an ebody so I will level those jobs is retarded. If you need the body as motivation, I wonder how you still do end game at this point.

[Kirschy]

You kinda got it backwards, Ebody is a nice reward for someone who has war or drk. Having the mentality that a shell should give me an ebody so I will level those jobs is retarded. If you need the body as motivation, I wonder how you still do end game at this point.

I mostly agree with Failure here. The game has changed a lot in the last 4 years. While it is a nice reward for dedicated members who use their DRK/WAR/BST, E Bodies are not the scared resource they once were. Any Successful HNM Shell that camps Kings and kills odin should be nearly capped on them~ Failure isn't saying he deserves an E Body, or that his shell should give him one. He is just saying he'd rather lot an E Body than have it sold for such a small cut.

When you have a well rounded job selection there's not much motivation to level other jobs. Having top-tier, hard to obtain equipment is great motivation to level an extra job. In the past this would be difficult, but with the way the game operates today you have salvage gear, king abj, omega gear, etc... auto'ing to people who can't use it yet. Leveling jobs is only one aspect to the game, and some people just stop the level grind after they've finished their useful jobs/got their cap~

[Kaiyoko]

I mostly agree with Failure here. The game has changed a lot in the last 4 years. While it is a nice reward for dedicated members who use their DRK/WAR/BST, E Bodies are not the scared resource they once were. Any Successful HNM Shell that camps Kings and kills odin should be nearly capped on them~ Failure isn't saying he deserves an E Body, or that his shell should give him one. He is just saying he'd rather lot an E Body than have it sold for such a small cut.

When you have a well rounded job selection there's not much motivation to level other jobs. Having top-tier, hard to obtain equipment is great motivation to level an extra job. In the past this would be difficult, but with the way the game operates today you have salvage gear, king abj, omega gear, etc... auto'ing to people who can't use it yet. Leveling jobs is only one aspect to the game, and some people just stop the level grind after they've finished their useful jobs/got their cap~

^ this was the reason for leveling my WAR when I had SAM with just about everyone outside of relic. I had no reason to level WAR unless it would be able to keep up or top SAM, which would require an Ebody.

[Thorny]

^ this was the reason for leveling my WAR when I had SAM with just about everyone outside of relic. I had no reason to level WAR unless it would be able to keep up or top SAM, which would require an Ebody.

WAR can easily top SAM on most anything non-hnm(dyna/limbus/ein/merits) without an ebody..

[Kaiyoko]

WAR can easily top SAM on most anything non-hnm(dyna/limbus/ein/merits) without an ebody..

I only did HNM and Salvage at the time. Once in awhile I would have done limbus or ein. I'm semi casual now because of school though so I do use WAR more often

[Tsuko_Asura]

^ this was the reason for leveling my WAR when I had SAM with just about everyone outside of relic. I had no reason to level WAR unless it would be able to keep up or top SAM, which would require an Ebody.

You do realize its only 7 Acc and Attk difference, right? 5 if you HQ, which really shouldn't be all that difficult for anyone.

[Kaiyoko]

You do realize its only 7 Acc and Attk difference, right? 5 if you HQ, which really shouldn't be all that difficult for anyone.

I understand that but like I said. It gave me a reason to level WAR.

[Tsuko_Asura]

I get the, "Oh! Rare item! I feel inspired to level X-job!". I don't get that you think E.Body is going to do anything noticeable to your damage output.

EDIT: Also, you put periods in very strange places.

[Kaiyoko]

I get the, "Oh! Rare item! I feel inspired to level X-job!". I don't get that you think E.Body is going to do anything noticeable to your damage output.

EDIT: Also, you put periods in very strange places.

I get picky about my equipment, and it needs to be the best (excluding relic) if I'm even going to bother using the job. I wont even touch most of the jobs I leveled just because of that reason. It would have been pointless for me to level something at that point that I would never use.

Yeah idc about the period placement lol. I was gonna edit it but decided not to waste my time.

Edit: I look at this as the comparison between NQ and HQ hauby. You wont notice a huge difference outside of whitebox because the damage or acc increase is so minimal.

[Corrderio]

Isn't this the 2nd time we discussed this? 0.o

[Kaiyoko]

Isn't this the 2nd time we discussed this? 0.o

I haven't seen it before so dunno!

[Despain]

10mil gil divided by 18 people is a whopping 555k per person. For a 3hr window, and it drops one in what, 3-4? That's some pretty awful gil for the manhours spent.

If someone wants to pay what the item is worth, yes I'd rather the shell have the gil. 10mil is not really a lot of gil for a LS that is selling ebodies in general though, so if someone is offering garbage, I'd rather have the item. And my "kinda" want to level war is a kinda because I specifically don't want to level it and be gimp. I "will" want to level war if I get ebody/heca hand/aurum feet.

I'm not greedy, really, but I don't see a reason to give an item to someone for dirt cheap if people in the shell want it, having an ebody is some nice motivation for someone to level war or drk. And besides, you sell it once for 10m, then everyone wants it for 10m and refuses to buy it at 40m. The goal of course is a nice equilibrium price where you never run out of buyers, but make as much as you can, I think that's higher than 10m, honestly.

Should have specified I was talking about selling it for 80m. My b.