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  1. #1401
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eanae View Post
    I'd say needing a MDT set for Cerb is more random fail then not bringing one to Cerb. Keep trying.
    Needing? No, a DRK/SAM with no special gear can tank Cerb. I certainly don't need to carry a -50 MDT set for WAR in general events but I love optimizing and if I can save my mages a few hundred damage from a stray -ga or aoe why not? ^-^ If you own a good MDT set and don't bother using it, that's pretty gimp dawg.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thorny View Post
    Needing? No, a DRK/SAM with no special gear can tank Cerb. I thought this was about efficiency, I certainly don't need to carry a -50 MDT set for WAR in general events but I love optimizing and if I can save my mages a few hundred damage from a stray -ga or aoe why not? ^-^
    ^^ This.

    It's not like much effort is required to hit a MDT macro when you see something that's going to hit you.

  3. #1403
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    Quote Originally Posted by Furionstormrage View Post
    A PLD who doesn't carry around an MDT build, that's interesting.
    Given I forgot nearly everything about PLD since I haven't done anything serious with it in over a year, but wouldn't a fire res be more effective than overall MDT/MDB for Cerberus?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Despain View Post
    I usually wouldn't post something as miniscule as this, but Thyme is probably one of the biggest retards I've encountered in Remora (actually, thats a lie, but he's still pretty dumb).

    Not the fact that he didn't have echoes that bothered me. Its the fact that he has a 75 THF and 8.9k for echoes is just too fucking expensive apparently. He left without warning as well, and d/c'd himself from a party earlier before it even got started. He's BRD in both ptys.

    Meh, excuse the plugins. Wasn't paying attention when I took the screenshot.
    I Carry Echos around when i'm doing something important, if it could be the difference between life or death... like any HNM situation, or solo'ing imps as SMN, on PLD just in case, etc etc.

    But if you're invited to a Merit party, or exp party as a healer, your ass needs to Silena, it costs 24MP and takes a whole 1 Second to cast.

    If he was at an HNM, or NM or something where Silence is a scarce issue and Echo drops are a good idea then he'd be a moron, but when its an IMP party, a mob that basically BREATHED silence, 8.9k a stack adds up to 890k a party when you have to silena yourself every other mob because mages are to incompetent and lazy to be assed to cast 1 spell.


    These are just my thoughts anyway. However, the situation is COMPLETELY Different if he's a Mage himself. as i cannot see his job, he could very well be the main healer in which case he is indeed a Flamming moron.

    Edit: He appears to be the BRD, I can't speak on that, if i was the main healer in a party i'd Silena Tank then BRD, then whoever else... but... 8.9k a stack doesn't seem like much on paper but when you're almost always within AoE Range of a mob that has 2 possible TP moves (most of the time) and one is a Silence, then Echo drops add up, he should always carry at least 1 stack for emergency situations (For instance if the healer didn't bring any and they got silenced etc)... So w/e.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corrderio View Post
    Given I forgot nearly everything about PLD since I haven't done anything serious with it in over a year, but wouldn't a fire res be more effective than overall MDT/MDB for Cerberus?
    Fire resist requires buffs, and typically for cerb GoH will get stunned. It's a poor use of resources to give PLDs carol for a move that likely will not get off.. if you can maintain a decent resist rate with only barspell it may be a decent option. Additionally, resist builds are a rather big sink to the inventory considering there are still situations you should be using a general MDT build 100%(JoL, ultima, AV meteor for a few examples). This brings the argument of utility(inventory spaces and an additional song vs special resist builds given you already have a MDT set that will reduce damage by nearly as much).

  6. #1406
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    Quote Originally Posted by Karbuncle View Post
    I Carry Echos around when i'm doing something important, if it could be the difference between life or death... like any HNM situation, or solo'ing imps as SMN, on PLD just in case, etc etc.

    But if you're invited to a Merit party, or exp party as a healer, your ass needs to Silena, it costs 24MP and takes a whole 1 Second to cast.

    If he was at an HNM, or NM or something where Silence is a scarce issue and Echo drops are a good idea then he'd be a moron, but when its an IMP party, a mob that basically BREATHED silence, 8.9k a stack adds up to 890k a party when you have to silena yourself every other mob because mages are to incompetent and lazy to be assed to cast 1 spell.


    These are just my thoughts anyway. However, the situation is COMPLETELY Different if he's a Mage himself. as i cannot see his job, he could very well be the main healer in which case he is indeed a Flamming moron.
    It wasn't a merit party. Level sync'd 70 in Caedarva. Also, he was bitching about being silenced while he was at the mob ready to pull. I'm not going out of my way to Silena someone who's too fucking lazy to buy echoes, let alone when they're all the way in BFE.

  7. #1407
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thorny View Post
    Fire resist requires buffs, and typically for cerb GoH will get stunned. It's a poor use of resources to give PLDs carol for a move that likely will not get off.. if you can maintain a decent resist rate with only barspell it may be a decent option. Additionally, resist builds are a rather big sink to the inventory considering there are still situations you should be using a general MDT build 100%(JoL, ultima, AV meteor for a few examples). This brings the argument of utility(inventory spaces and an additional song vs special resist builds given you already have a MDT set that will reduce more).
    Exactly, having a basic MDT set is all you need for most things, but not having one is kinda like not having a Shield Skill or PDT setup, it's just part of the basics of the job imo. (Especially since some of the better MDT pieces are also good Enmity pieces)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Despain View Post
    It wasn't a merit party. Level sync'd 70 in Caedarva. Also, he was bitching about being silenced while he was at the mob ready to pull. I'm not going out of my way to Silena someone who's too fucking lazy to buy echoes, let alone when they're all the way in BFE.
    If he's stupid enough to run away while silenced thats another story (and probably an important Detail).

    but if he was actually at the camp singing buffs for the party when he was silenced he should expect to be silena'd unless the main healer themselves is silenced.

  9. #1409
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    http://i48.tinypic.com/2u721eh.jpg

    Guess I was a test subject..

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    Probably would have blisted after the first 1 >.>

    Also, they are infact at their computer if it was automated it no longer is.

    I told one of them the website was wrong and he got in a conversation with me about how he spends most of the day trying to get around the chat filter.

    So fyi spamming them after a tell does infact work.

  11. #1411
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cairthenn View Post
    Guess I was a test subject..
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    Crafty

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    Idk, think this is worse...


  13. #1413
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    Lol, I saw a few tells I got today, and saw the RMT's were being more clever by changing one letter and replacing it with a character like "G|L" for example. But the fact they are telling you to change "X" letter to "X" is pure hilarity.

  14. #1414
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    It doesn't surprise me at all that the RMT found a way around the fail filter. In fact, pretty sure I said that something like this exact thing would happen unless they would have just limited tells from trial accounts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aksannyi View Post
    It doesn't surprise me at all that the RMT found a way around the fail filter. In fact, pretty sure I said that something like this exact thing would happen unless they would have just limited tells from trial accounts.
    Hey, you're supposed to be liking cocks, not using logical analysis that makes perfect sense.

  16. #1416
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    Liking cocks is a perfect example of logical analysis that makes perfect sense.

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    It doesn't make sense to me. Could you draw me a picture?

  18. #1418
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    Pens win! Pens Win!!! PENS WIN!!!!!

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    No. Either you get it or you don't. You're clearly not down with the cock.

    Son, I am disappoint.

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    I'M NOT GOING TO LIVE YOUR LIFE, I HAVE MY OWN INTERESTS AND DREAMS.

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    I am disappoint.
    fail
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    Also cocks

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    Well your nickname is clitter so my disappointment doesn't run all that deep.

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