Playstation 2

[bechyni]

yeah xpadder looks like a good thing to get for controller setup, is it complicated to setup or pretty easy?

[Pikarya]

The only thing you should ever need Xpadder for with regards to FFXI is if you're using a wireless 360 controller.

Or... custom binds for controls.

Alt+Tab to a button for dualboxing, etc.

[Fiye]

On the note of joystick support for FFXI. I personally use MotioninJoy's DS3. It allows me to use the PS3 controller for either PS1, Dualshock 2, Dualshock 3, or Dualshock 3 with SIXAXIS.

On the other hand, I seriously recommend you drop the PS2.

If you're looking to spend that kind of money on a PS2+HDD, I'd recommend you ebay up a 20/40/60GB PS3 w/ Backward Compatibility, a upgrade your current PC/Buy a new one outiright, or wait until the holiday season and grab a PS3 Slim w/ Vana'diel Collection 2.*

*Disregard: I suck cocks.

Really, I'd recommend switching over to the PC. Some digital LCD TVs allow you to hook up a computer to it, add that with FFXI's support for controllers (All I needed was a device driver for it), and a keyboard. And you're set.

Not to mention you get the benefits of windower, higher resolution screen, and lack of PS2 limitations.

[Pikarya]

or wait until the holiday season and grab a PS3 Slim w/ Vana'diel Collection 2.

PS3 Slim has emulation support?

[kamugi]

some jackass FiOS tech turned off my old ps2, and ever since, the HDD isnt recognized. Any ideas on how to fix? Not sure if its the HDD or the Network adaptor.

If it isnt recognizing the HDD then there's either a problem with one of connections, the HDD itself or the network adaptor, all I can advise is to ask your friends to borrow their adaptor or HDD and try them and see if either works, then replace that part. There's no easy fix for any of that if its broken though. Youll just have to replace what is broken or find someone who can fix it, and just hope it is not the PS2 that has the defective part. (which can be tested by using your HDD and network adaptor on a different PS2) But you should try taking the pieces apart, then reassembling them and seeing if it will recognize it, this sometimes works.

Gonna edit my earlier post now since Im home~

[bechyni]

On the note of joystick support for FFXI. I personally use MotioninJoy's DS3. It allows me to use the PS3 controller for either PS1, Dualshock 2, Dualshock 3, or Dualshock 3 with SIXAXIS.

On the other hand, I seriously recommend you drop the PS2.

If you're looking to spend that kind of money on a PS2+HDD, I'd recommend you ebay up a 20/40/60GB PS3 w/ Backward Compatibility, a upgrade your current PC/Buy a new one outiright, or wait until the holiday season and grab a PS3 Slim w/ Vana'diel Collection 2.

Really, I'd recommend switching over to the PC. Some digital LCD TVs allow you to hook up a computer to it, add that with FFXI's support for controllers (All I needed was a device driver for it), and a keyboard. And you're set.

Not to mention you get the benefits of windower, higher resolution screen, and lack of PS2 limitations.

I want a computer but i lack the knowledge to know exactly what to get or where to get it

[Omniyoji]

Cool Kamugi I didn't know about that fix. I'll try it out and see if it fixes my DVD-9 problem. Thanks much~

[Silenka]

yeah xpadder looks like a good thing to get for controller setup, is it complicated to setup or pretty easy?

Seemed pretty easy to me.

[Yugl]

PS3 Slim has emulation support?

I heard it didn't.

[Elizara]

From playing with Xpadder, yes it's pretty easy. I still can't seem to get the controller to work the way I want it to for my Super Joypad Box Pro 3 adapter though for KOTR Hopefully one day I can find a profile for that so I can play it without having my hand hurt (sorry, I don't have a good mouse for gaming), but that's a problem for another day..

Never bothered for FFXI though, no need in my case. I just made sure I had the manual open for the PS2 version so I knew the original controller config as well as a screen of the config for the Dual Shock via the adapter, and configed it so it feels (other than pesty mouse pointer popping up from time to time) like I'm playing the PS2 version with a lot better graphics and with the Oh-Yuck Onscreen KB disabled. (One thing that PS2 had going for it is the controller movement/camera feels VERY solid. I can't really move or play without a dual shock 2 or a clone of one, I'm so used to it and switching back and forth between it and a keyboard to type on. I'm guessing it's the same with the Xbox 360 version, but I've never played the Xbox 360 version. We don't have that console in the house.)

[bechyni]

From playing with Xpadder, yes it's pretty easy. I still can't seem to get the controller to work the way I want it to for my Super Joypad Box Pro 3 adapter though for KOTR Hopefully one day I can find a profile for that so I can play it without having my hand hurt (sorry, I don't have a good mouse for gaming), but that's a problem for another day..

Never bothered for FFXI though, no need in my case. I just made sure I had the manual open for the PS2 version so I knew the original controller config as well as a screen of the config for the Dual Shock via the adapter, and configed it so it feels (other than pesty mouse pointer popping up from time to time) like I'm playing the PS2 version with a lot better graphics and with the Oh-Yuck Onscreen KB disabled. (One thing that PS2 had going for it is the controller movement/camera feels VERY solid. I can't really move or play without a dual shock 2 or a clone of one, I'm so used to it and switching back and forth between it and a keyboard to type on. I'm guessing it's the same with the Xbox 360 version, but I've never played the Xbox 360 version. We don't have that console in the house.)

the 360 controls are solid but the lag just ruins it for HNM/campign/besieged. usually it freezes during besieged and has MAJOR lag during campign.

[Bakthi]

I use this on PC:

Amazon.com: PS2 PSX PS1 PlayStation 2 to USB PC Adapter Converter: Video Games

Only needed the driver, which Vista had already (good thing as one for Vista didn't come with it). You just have to set up the buttons properly with the SE-supplied setup program outside of the game itself. I tried playing with just the keyboard for about a month after 3-4 years on PS2, and it just wasn't right. Try to run and pan while passing things, or just plain run, or target like...anything. I can't stand not using a controller for such things.

It was a difficult decision for me to move from PS2, because I really don't like Windows very much. Before I got my laptop last year, I hadn't run Windows at home since '98 was beta. But now I've become spoiled by Windower (especially Spellcast) and multi-boxing. I still have a PS2 that runs FFXI and reads discs, but I've decided dealing with Windows is less painful than dealing with console FFXI.

(In case you're wondering, I have a Dell Vostro 1700 with a really non-amazing nVidia chipset and Vista, and I can 3-box. So yeah, most things you get these days will work.)

[Fiye]

PS3 Slim has emulation support?

I thought I had heard that SE was making a PS3 port for FFXI.

Give me a bit to search through.

@bechyni: FFXI is a game based off Direct x8.0. Pretty much, anything better than a Radeon 5XXX or a GeForce 4XXX will suffice.

You can get those graphics card for dirt cheap.

Follow up with some decent processing power, and 1 GB ram (2 if on Vista) and you're set.

Now off to dig for that news article I read.

Edit: I'm an idiot. The news article thingy I "read" must have been a spy. *Sock in mouth*

[bechyni]

thanks fiye

[Fiye]

thanks fiye

Tech - Order of the Blue Gartr

Go ahead and hit that forum up. Just have an idea of what you have planned.

I.E. Do you plan on doing anything other than FFXI with said computer.

Anything from storing large amounts of porn, to play Crysis maxed out, or whatever suits your fancy.

Also, make sure you read up on possible ways to protect your computer from viruses. Friend of mine just managed to get his only account hacked, and I'm still surprised I haven't lost anything of mine.

Either way, good luck with FFXI on the PC. Best way to go I'd say. Especially with the addition of plugins.

[Wheeldog]

For all the people who are running FFXI on the PS3(old style 60 or 20gb with the EE chip) try hooking your system up via componant or composite rather then HDMI, and turn off any upscaling. For some reason there is a delay over HDMI that I've found and read about. It still runs slower then PS2(I think, been a while since I used it on PS2 and not 3) but not much and should help some with framerate issues.

PS you can plug both componant/composite and HDMI in at the same time but you have to manually change which output to use every time in the dashboard if you want ot flip the signal

[Cruzizzle]

I would have just gone with a new PC.

But you do make a point about PS2 and HNM claiming. I keep my old PS2fat around just in case. My PC is pretty nice by FFXI standards but even still the way PS2 processes data there is a noticeable difference when it comes to claiming.

[Nattack]

ebay is the one true method to find the game (or to use a friends disc if you already have reg codes), to find an older ps2 EB/gamestop or whatever you murkans use usually has a good supply and a listing of the model number on the front.

look for SCPH 30001.


i have 3 ps2's, one old, one old but broken (that range where they made the really shoddy laser eyes, it played FFXI great up until WoTG where it couldnt read discs no more) and one of the new fliptops.

getting a PS3 may be a better investment, but getting a PS3 that can run FFXI is a hit or miss,

or better yet you could just build a new PC, its like a PS2, or a PS3, except it plays better games and can download porn.

[bechyni]

I would have just gone with a new PC.

But you do make a point about PS2 and HNM claiming. I keep my old PS2fat around just in case. My PC is pretty nice by FFXI standards but even still the way PS2 processes data there is a noticeable difference when it comes to claiming.

it's like when trying to claim on PS2 the lag factor is just enough when hitting your macro/casting from spell list it usually claims or your within 10~ people before or after claim.

[The Blackrose]

only if your ps3 has that emotion chip for ps2 emulation. I have a ps3 that does not run anything ps2. And they were suposed to make a softwear thing for that and thewn scraped that as well sony is kinda lame

I don't know exactly because I have not played around with it, but there is a package downloadable from the PSN Store that enables the HDD storage for PS2 games. Granted, I've never tried the PS2 version at all, but it's probably required.

The other issue with PS3 is that any of the newer models have no PS2 compatibility what so ever. The PS2 hardware was only available for the first models. The next models had a form of software emulation to reduce unit cost, but even then I wouldn't trust it (mostly because it's a quirky piece of shit at times). This emulation was eventually removed with future models.

For all the people who are running FFXI on the PS3(old style 60 or 20gb with the EE chip) try hooking your system up via componant or composite rather then HDMI, and turn off any upscaling. For some reason there is a delay over HDMI that I've found and read about. It still runs slower then PS2(I think, been a while since I used it on PS2 and not 3) but not much and should help some with framerate issues.

This is true to an extent. High end HDTVs should not have this problem. However, your average HDTV will. SRK had a pretty good bit about this.