Heroes - Season 4

[sb]

That could be...

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I brought up Doyle though because in Peter's dream they showed him off to the side making Emma play the cello. I think Tracey will have more to do with stopping Samuel.

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Damn it! I got my names all screwed up and thought Doyle = Samuel(stupid Irish/Scottish names)... But yeah I was thinking Tracy will be the one to take out Samuel.

So my first response answered something you weren't even talking about before. Lets try this again:
Doyle will go down to Clair or some B.S. because of back story and his character, while being very powerful, is basically being designed to be fail guy/filler every time he gets used. Again though, pure speculation on my part.

[Tanthalass]

Unlike everyone else, at least until recently, I still liked the direction of the show. After watching this week's episode though I'm starting to really get the feeling that I'd be more than okay if this was the last season, even if it ends abruptly and full of cliffhangers never to be answered. They need to decide whether Sylar is good or bad and not do this whole "I still think I'm bad but I wanna be good but I'll still be bad doing good things, no wait I definitely wanna be bad but maybe just a little good" bullshit. At least for me and I'm sure many, many others, Sylar made season one because of who his character was (thus the reason he became a regular, right?). Now they're trying to turn him into this conflicted character that honestly is just frustrating. As much as I like(d) Sylar, either turn him back to the old Sylar or get someone to kill him off for good.

Sylar doesn't belong in the show anymore.

He's a third party, and they're struggling to make it work.

Season 2 the bad guys were the company/Adamn.
Season 3 the bad guys were the Villains/Arthur/Danko.
Season 4 the bad guys are the Carnival/Samuel.

He's fairly boring as a character now, and they treat him like they did Peter. They simply go out of their way to disable him so he doesn't slaughter the rest of the cast. I have no problem keeping him around but they did so in a way that was completely non-constructive. I think he's an awesome character, but he doesn't fit anymore.

[Ivaden]

Yeah, I agree completely, especially comparing him to Peter and how he's being treated as a character. I had high hopes when Samuel was trying to recruit him, because I still have high hopes for Samuel himself -- he's the right kind of villain in my opinion, especially considering what he pulled off in this week's episode.

Question/speculation, though. If Peter touches Sylar and takes his abilities, does he take Sylar's "natural" ability, or all the ones he's taken, or both? Did the previews of next week hint to anything? Since I watch the episodes on Netflix, I don't get to see the previews of next week ever, so I dunno.

[Null]

Peter has touched Sylar a few times. ( not in that way.) He only gets one power, and its random, depending on what one the writers need him to have. Look at last seasons finale when he took his shape shifting. Or earlier in this season when he took his flying ability that he shouldn't have.

[Tanthalass]

Question/speculation, though. If Peter touches Sylar and takes his abilities, does he take Sylar's "natural" ability, or all the ones he's taken, or both? Did the previews of next week hint to anything? Since I watch the episodes on Netflix, I don't get to see the previews of next week ever, so I dunno.

Pretty sure that depends on how the writers decide to destroy continuity at the time of Peter touching Sylar.

[Null]

Wonder how / if they will tie together the Hiro, Sayid, Ando plot with the finale. SSWMTJ.

[Tanthalass]

Wonder how / if they will tie together the Hiro, Sayid, Ando plot with the finale. SSWMTJ.

Sayid?

You mean Mohinder? :3

[Null]

SSWMTJ.

Sure Someone Will Miss The Joke.

[Tanthalass]

Are you fucking kidding me?

[Vade]

I'm a hero..

[Jak]

I thought the whole Sylar thing was a bit rushed.. and I guess I can spoiler this..

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I know the writers tried to justify Sylar becoming super good or something because of the "years" he spent in his mind.. but it just felt a little awkward or something.

Aside from that I thought it was a good episode. It was even better because Hiro/Ando/Mohinder were not in it, thank God.

[Rhinox]

eh I thought it was a given they're trying to make Sylar a Face. They can only go so long having him be a heel.

I thought HGR's backstory was great. Funny how that blackdude managed to get more out of HGR then Parkman back in Season 3.

[Tanthalass]

I thought the whole Sylar thing was a bit rushed.. and I guess I can spoiler this..

Spoiler: show

I know the writers tried to justify Sylar becoming super good or something because of the "years" he spent in his mind.. but it just felt a little awkward or something.

Aside from that I thought it was a good episode. It was even better because Hiro/Ando/Mohinder were not in it, thank God.

I think the Sylar thing is pretty stupid. If he's actually good, then he simply takes the place of Peter as being the overpowered hero they keep away from the action till the finale. He's gonna show up and stop all the bad dudes (luckily next week is the finale amirite?!)

What is the guy who makes copies of himself going to do against either of them, let alone both? And how is Samuel getting his info?

eh I thought it was a given they're trying to make Sylar a Face. They can only go so long having him be a heel.

I thought HGR's backstory was great. Funny how that blackdude managed to get more out of HGR then Parkman back in Season 3.

I really don't know what they can do with Sylar at this point to make him a non-retarded character. Possibly nothing? And I don't remember really, but Parkman wasn't really looking for that stuff was he? Samuel's buddy got what he needed to try to distance Claire from HRG (which serves what purpose, exactly?), Parkman was just looking for info on the government project iirc.

[Eticket]

Didn't I see the HRG flashback story already in Star Trek 3?

[TummieGaruda]

It's going to be an interesting finale for sure

Also regarding Hiro

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from what I've seen in one of the previews they did last week, it appears that the other time traveler sent Charlie back in time and she lived a full life. I think she ends up checking into the same hospital that Hiro is in and Hiro after being released walks past her room and finds that she is old and possibly dying.

[Eticket]

I can't be the only one that laughed...

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at Matt finishing the wall and just leaving Peter passed out on the floor.

[Null]

Prolly had to get some sleep. Must've been tiring for him to find all those bricks and equipment in the middle of the night, in such short notice.

[Zieara]

If you're going to name an episode of your show "The Wall" you owe it to yourself to play some pink floyd.

Was very happy with the ep. Very interested to see how they close this up.

[Rhyis.]

I'm really not sure why I keep coming back to watch this show. I know I'm going to hate the next episode, and then I do. But then I go and watch the next episode.

[Khamsin]

It's going to be an interesting finale for sure

Also regarding Hiro

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from what I've seen in one of the previews they did last week, it appears that the other time traveler sent Charlie back in time and she lived a full life. I think she ends up checking into the same hospital that Hiro is in and Hiro after being released walks past her room and finds that she is old and possibly dying.

Well, that would at least give him the opportunity to question her on where/when she was taken so he can rescue her.