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    Quote Originally Posted by Vail View Post
    he said he eats dumplings (calydon) so that's an extra 50crit, so he's already overshotting the softcap, which begs the question: why all crit on there when you could have put on some attack
    I can't answer you seriously without coming off as an obnoxious prick so I'll just leave this hamster right here.


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    A-Rank Dark Poeta officially on farm now for our group. We got SM body last night, but i couldn't get into the instance in time to loot it D:

    Sent a GM ticket to see if it can be transferred from legionmate who it got sorted to, doubt anything will come of it but its worth a shot.

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    That sucks, but how do you send a GM ticket?

    I don't think there's any GMs on Kahrun lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gryffes View Post
    I can't answer you seriously without coming off as an obnoxious prick so I'll just leave this hamster right here.

    Attack from manastones arent affected by any of our attack increasing abilities. I lol @ any Ranger who uses Attack in any of his slots. Not to mention attack is linear increase in damage, and short of autoshot a measly 50 damage (assuming a max of 10 +5Attack stones) isnt worth losing 850 health or more crit. Stacking Crit till 600 (before the second softcap) or maxxing HP out is a much better use of all of our slots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Naiya View Post
    That sucks, but how do you send a GM ticket?

    I don't think there's any GMs on Kahrun lol.
    http://uk.support.ncsoft.com/


    Then go to the "Ask a question" section, and you can use that for GM support, reporting players etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lockecole7 View Post
    Attack from manastones arent affected by any of our attack increasing abilities. I lol @ any Ranger who uses Attack in any of his slots. Not to mention attack is linear increase in damage, and short of autoshot a measly 50 damage (assuming a max of 10 +5Attack stones) isnt worth losing 850 health or more crit. Stacking Crit till 600 (before the second softcap) or maxxing HP out is a much better use of all of our slots.
    I find it hard to believe that Ranger is the only class that doesn't count manastones when using scaling attack abilities. Where are you getting 10 manastone sockets from btw? Most decent gear yields 24 total, and with miragent's you can get over crit softcap without a single crit stone; meaning you're getting 120 attack from stones alone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pooky View Post
    A-Rank Dark Poeta officially on farm now for our group. We got SM body last night, but i couldn't get into the instance in time to loot it D:

    Sent a GM ticket to see if it can be transferred from legionmate who it got sorted to, doubt anything will come of it but its worth a shot.
    Gm's in this game (surprisingly) are fairly adamant about helping it's customers. I sent in a ticket, they helped asap and got our items switched, hopefully they do the same with you, gl.

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    whenever I've tried inviting people into an instance to roll on something that dropped, when it was looted they never got the window with the option to roll or pass.

    so, probably working as intended.

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    I just got to level 19 Templar on Fregion.

    Enjoying the game so far.

    Any advice as I climb my up the levels?

    PS: Why the fuck is everything so expensive!? 2-5k for pieces of Green equipment from level 10-18. But I'm looking at 70-100k a piece of equipment after that. D: Has it always been this expensive to get decent gear? I could understand rarer pieces like Blue or Gold being that expensive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Priran View Post
    whenever I've tried inviting people into an instance to roll on something that dropped, when it was looted they never got the window with the option to roll or pass.

    so, probably working as intended.
    Aye. A PUG I was in got Kromede's Spear with no Glad in the party *roll eyes*. However, the Chanter's friend was a Glad looking for the spear. He offered every member 200k if we allowed him to join and take the spear. Unfortunately, he couldn't get it. We tried several different things (messing around with the distribution settings etc) and waited for around 15 minutes, but he still couldn't get it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bipolargod View Post
    Gm's in this game (surprisingly) are fairly adamant about helping it's customers. I sent in a ticket, they helped asap and got our items switched, hopefully they do the same with you, gl.
    This happened in my legion. Everyone in the group sent in GM tickets requesting it to be sent to Crasian when Quincy got a bow. Crasian logged in the next morning with the bow in his inventory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bipolargod View Post
    Gm's in this game (surprisingly) are fairly adamant about helping it's customers. I sent in a ticket, they helped asap and got our items switched, hopefully they do the same with you, gl.
    Yeah I've been talking all morning with an sgm via email, they've been pretty nice so far; just waiting on them to get a hold of the legion mate who's holding the item before they'll make the transfer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pooky View Post
    I find it hard to believe that Ranger is the only class that doesn't count manastones when using scaling attack abilities. Where are you getting 10 manastone sockets from btw? Most decent gear yields 24 total, and with miragent's you can get over crit softcap without a single crit stone; meaning you're getting 120 attack from stones alone.
    I think what he's saying is that if you have (for example) 100 attack to begin with, then add 50 from stones, then use Focused Shots, you'd have 180 Attack instead of 195.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Priran View Post
    I think what he's saying is that if you have (for example) 100 attack to begin with, then add 50 from stones, then use Focused Shots, you'd have 180 Attack instead of 195.
    Exactly, 50 attack from stones will only ever be an additional 50 attack, regardless of buffs. Working as intended? I hope not, since crit technically scales with higher damage buffs, no reason attack shouldnt.

    Oh and sorry if I dont base my manastone assumptions off the best gear in the game. (or close to it)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lockecole7 View Post
    Exactly, 50 attack from stones will only ever be an additional 50 attack, regardless of buffs. Working as intended? I hope not, since crit technically scales with higher damage buffs, no reason attack shouldnt.

    Oh and sorry if I dont base my manastone assumptions off the best gear in the game. (or close to it)
    Granted, Miragent's might not be the best example; however its the only leather set i know offhand.

    Even without Miragent's, its a safe assumption that by 50 your gearset will have 24 manastone sockets, and will have roughly 120 crit from weapon/accessories alone (50 from weapon, 11/13 from level 23/18 blue rings and earrings, 21 from blue neck or equivilent). At 36 for example, my glad has 308 crit, 324 attack unbuffed (448/432 buffed) with only one gold and mostly white manastones; not the best gear by any stretch.

    That means you only have have 180 more crit to hit softcap (141/135 crit if you have Xeonphen/Heaven-shattering bow) with scroll and food, that can be accomplished with ~12 sockets. Even if attack doesn't scale with class specific buffs (in rangers case apparently, i know it scales with glad buffs for example) you'll still see a greater increase from the additional 60+ attack than you would from the 180 crit over softcap, due to how attack scales with skill tooltip damage; a linear increase is better than a dimished one.

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    I'd take 180 over cap (roughly 9% crit) over 60 attack any day of the week. 60 linear damage compared to almost a 10% chance to crit and double most of my attacks from 1k-1.5k to 2-3k?

    Then when you throw HP into the equation, how much its needed endgame and how invaliable it is in PvP in most situations...I really cant see the argument for Attack manastones FOR A RANGER. Last three words being the key. I honestly just dont think its a stat for US.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Priran View Post
    I think what he's saying is that if you have (for example) 100 attack to begin with, then add 50 from stones, then use Focused Shots, you'd have 180 Attack instead of 195.
    accually: focused shots does not modify your attack stat at all: it's basically +30% damage to your skills, which means adding attack is worth stacking.

    Bow of Blessing, strong shots and Speed of the Wind only raise attack for your base attack (the weapon and any +enchants), while BoB is pretty snazzy, strong shots is lack luster and eats up one of the 2 slots for ranger buffs which are better filled with Focus/Bestial. SotW is more for the movement not for the attack/crit so really that one isn't a huge deal.

    Bestial Fury I can't speak for since I haven't used it first hand

    but I think you're overlooking attack, think about it: I myself have 346 attack (267+79) BoB adds 54 attack for me. if I even socketed 10 slots for 50 attack, that's almost having a permanent bow of blessing on.

    Top end rangers on Korean servers push upwards 500+ attack. Because of manastones, and the only rangers who go past 300 crit are the ones that are cheap and don't use food/scroll.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kael View Post
    PS: Why the fuck is everything so expensive!? 2-5k for pieces of Green equipment from level 10-18. But I'm looking at 70-100k a piece of equipment after that. D: Has it always been this expensive to get decent gear? I could understand rarer pieces like Blue or Gold being that expensive.
    Sorry but have you never played FFXI? basic armor was cheap but stuff got expensive fast, For example the level 40 Monk/Sam/Nin armor (jujitsu gi iirc) was around 400k (before the game was dying) Now that isn't cheap, and kinah is alot easier to make than gil was, I really don't see what the problem is unless you where some gimp player in ffxi that used shit gear, if so you can do that in this game aswell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Naiya View Post
    Sorry but have you never played FFXI? basic armor was cheap but stuff got expensive fast, For example the level 40 Monk/Sam/Nin armor (jujitsu gi iirc) was around 400k (before the game was dying) Now that isn't cheap, and kinah is alot easier to make than gil was, I really don't see what the problem is unless you where some gimp player in ffxi that used shit gear, if so you can do that in this game aswell.
    Except you could resell gear in FFXI.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Naiya View Post
    Sorry but have you never played FFXI? basic armor was cheap but stuff got expensive fast, For example the level 40 Monk/Sam/Nin armor (jujitsu gi iirc) was around 400k (before the game was dying) Now that isn't cheap, and kinah is alot easier to make than gil was, I really don't see what the problem is unless you where some gimp player in ffxi that used shit gear, if so you can do that in this game aswell.
    the money you make from grinding alone can usually get you greens in all slots as well as decent weapon upgrades every 3-5 levels or so easy, unless you npc every bit of armor/weapons drop you get and have nothing to do with the broker and even then. granted you'll have to save up for the 30 wings if you don't have the CE or don't have the level 40 veteran reward wings waiting for you.

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