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    Quote Originally Posted by aduidarnenye View Post
    Well, one would believe in a huge city-wide disaster that the authority that be would use any and all law enforcement available to regain order and calm. These FBI agents walked to their nice office with their very calm co-workers and started going on about a huge investigation that really wasn't important at that time (cause of, you know, all the death and destruction outside).

    The initial FBI agents didn't try to contact their superiors, didn't try to assess the situation beyond looking down the overpass at the smoke and destruction, and didn't try to help anyone around them except the burning guy. The bit about telling people to be calm seemed shoved in because they didn't actually accomplish anything. The running about in slow motion scene was really stupid too.

    Also, the doctor chick's hospital looked almost empty at the end when she was looking at the kid. With that many injuries the halls should have been filled with patients. And how on earth did she manage, being a doctor in a city full of casualities, manage to go home that evening so very calm to eat dinner and sleep with her husband? I would think she'd be in the hospital for days and days after such an event.


    Of course, these are all fairly nit-picky complaints and the story is obviously about the reasons behind the blackout and the big conspiracy. The dude walking in the baseball stadium was really creepy and scary at the end.
    I can see your point then. Although, watching certain shows has taught me to try to ignore logical fallacies. I guess during the chaos of it all I didn't think about those small things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aduidarnenye View Post
    Well, one would believe in a huge city-wide disaster that the authority that be would use any and all law enforcement available to regain order and calm. These FBI agents walked to their nice office with their very calm co-workers and started going on about a huge investigation that really wasn't important at that time (cause of, you know, all the death and destruction outside).

    The initial FBI agents didn't try to contact their superiors, didn't try to assess the situation beyond looking down the overpass at the smoke and destruction, and didn't try to help anyone around them except the burning guy. The bit about telling people to be calm seemed shoved in because they didn't actually accomplish anything. The running about in slow motion scene was really stupid too.

    Also, the doctor chick's hospital looked almost empty at the end when she was looking at the kid. With that many injuries the halls should have been filled with patients. And how on earth did she manage, being a doctor in a city full of casualities, manage to go home that evening so very calm to eat dinner and sleep with her husband? I would think she'd be in the hospital for days and days after such an event.


    Of course, these are all fairly nit-picky complaints and the story is obviously about the reasons behind the blackout and the big conspiracy. The dude walking in the baseball stadium was really creepy and scary at the end.
    While your logic is fine, this TV show is about a very small handful of individuals. Are you going to argue that if something like the situation described happened, out of 30 thousand individuals employed by the FBI, not a single 1 would look into what happened? Perhaps the show is assuming that 29 thousand other agents were dealing with current situation, but this story is about the people that didn't. I find it quite hard to believe that every single individual employed by the FBI is perfect, and thought of their boss before their wife, and that every single one of them decided it was more important to a medic than to figure out what the fuck just happened to them.

    Past the fact that that aspect of your attempt to bash the show really has absolutely no ground to stand on (in my opinion anyway), why are you trying to apply reality to a sci-fi esque situation. Yes, there is likely to be chaos following any sort of "normal" disaster. I wouldn't call having a memory of your future a normal disaster. As is the point of the show, that could easily have the power to change people. Someone who 5 minutes earlier was capable of killing themselves is no longer able. Someone who 5 minutes earlier would be the type to go looting after said event now feels the urge to help others rather than cause chaos. Who fucking knows? The show is quite obviously not about reality.

    Yea, the hospital should have been a little more full perhaps, and she probably would have been working late. Is it really that big of a deal?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Insanecyclone View Post
    Hey it's charlie!
    This just aired over here in England. Apart from the kid being named Charlie, did you mean Dominic Monaghan? I don't remember seeing him...

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    He's not in the pilot but becomes a big character fast.

    pretty sure
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    hes the one walking around in the stadium

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    Ah thanks, guess I have a reason to keep watching now lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by FailureMidgard View Post
    While your logic is fine, this TV show is about a very small handful of individuals. Are you going to argue that if something like the situation described happened, out of 30 thousand individuals employed by the FBI, not a single 1 would look into what happened? Perhaps the show is assuming that 29 thousand other agents were dealing with current situation, but this story is about the people that didn't. I find it quite hard to believe that every single individual employed by the FBI is perfect, and thought of their boss before their wife, and that every single one of them decided it was more important to a medic than to figure out what the fuck just happened to them.

    Past the fact that that aspect of your attempt to bash the show really has absolutely no ground to stand on (in my opinion anyway), why are you trying to apply reality to a sci-fi esque situation. Yes, there is likely to be chaos following any sort of "normal" disaster. I wouldn't call having a memory of your future a normal disaster. As is the point of the show, that could easily have the power to change people. Someone who 5 minutes earlier was capable of killing themselves is no longer able. Someone who 5 minutes earlier would be the type to go looting after said event now feels the urge to help others rather than cause chaos. Who fucking knows? The show is quite obviously not about reality.

    Yea, the hospital should have been a little more full perhaps, and she probably would have been working late. Is it really that big of a deal?
    I understand that to watch any performance you have to suspend disbelief to some degree. I just felt that there was too much suspending of disbelief in the first episode regarding the disaster itself. I also recognise that I am being nit-picky and I am hoping that it will improve.

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    I think the show had an awesome pilot. Just watched it on Hulu.

    I don't like to nit-pick apart shows unless the situation is just flat out unbelievable and begins to interfere with the actual story.

    The general concept of the future and how people are gonna change or how much it will come true is a very good attention grabber, and very promising to keep viewers watching.

    I sure as hell want to know wtf is going on, or more importantly how it happened.

    Lasting only 2 mins or so, I would guess it was a test phase.

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    I just hope that the ONLY TIME they go to the future are when they are talking about the visions. Lost makes my head spin enough with the time travel, I'd love to see this series not deal with it too.

    Also <3 Dom!

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    Honestly, seeing Dom in the preview for the season was my favorite part of last week. Lmao, I yelled out "CHARLIE!". Then I got on this forum and saw several people type the same thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lbelle View Post
    I just hope that the ONLY TIME they go to the future are when they are talking about the visions. Lost makes my head spin enough with the time travel, I'd love to see this series not deal with it too.

    Also <3 Dom!
    Well realistically they will be AT the future by the end of the season so you should be fine. Unless they adopt a formula of jumping ahead each season which would be stupid/old fast.

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    The flashforward was only 6 months, so it's probable that we'll have reconciled what was seen there by the end of this seasonal period; I presume they haven't written any kind of concurrency into the concept yet as they're not even sure how it's going to hold up long term for this one season.

    I doubt they'll exactly rehash the same thing for another season, but it will likely be similar, otherwise what's the point?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norellicus View Post

    I doubt they'll exactly rehash the same thing for another season, but it will likely be similar, otherwise what's the point?
    Could just do the reveal of whats happening, then go forward figuring out the conspiracy i.e. Lost switching over from a show trying to get off an island to whatever the fuck is going on now or Dollhouse eventually turning into Epitaph One. Also, considering how planned out the new V is in terms of being ~4 seasons and the Lost pedigree on this show I can not see this not being planned out long term.

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    So I'm thinking it's a safe bet the season finale is 04/29/2010.

    I'm just curious where they go next season.

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    This show isn't going to last long if they keep churning out horribly dull episodes like tonights.

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    Yeah, episode 2 is not the place to try and make us care about strained family relationships.

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    I still really enjoyed episode 2. Maybe because I think the concept is great. I understand not really caring about some of the relationships (namely the main agent + his wife down the line) because they should be fairly easy to get around, but all I think is maybe a little too much emphasis being put on it, not that it's a bad thing to have in the story.

    I'll be watching the entire season for sure, can't wait to see what the outcome is going to be, I really have no idea how it'll end.

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    My biggest problem with this show is that they seem to prefer telling and not showing. Instead of showing us how the characters, whether it's John Cho's character and his seemingly impending death or the strained relationship of the other agent, they are simply telling us that you care, and there is no option but to care.

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    I liked the beginning with the children, really thought it was a flashback.

    but then the rest of the episode wasn't as great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eaglestrike View Post
    I really have no idea how it'll end.
    The blackout was caused by Desmond not pushing a button every 108 minutes that caused an airplane to crash into the LHC thus causing the blackout.

    The two guys up and about during all this are probably Others or Jacob/Esau.

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    lol.

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