Concealed Handgun License

[Cyn]

Perhaps being robbed at gunpoint instills a sense of reality. Having a gun pointed at you that's being held by some wide eyed twitchy teenager is fucking scary. If you think you're going to whip out your pistol Doc Holiday style and re-enact Tombstone in your living room, you're probably doing society a favor by getting shot in the head.

[Stromgarde]

Effluo, what part of Houston do you live in?

[Khamsin]

There have been more than a few cases in Texas where a homeowner or neighbor defended against multiple robbers. And if were talking about armed break-ins, there's a good chance you won't be caught off guard if you were home unexpectedly or wake up and hear it. This gives you time and the element of surprise to draw your gun and defend your house before they realize you have them in your sights. Take one intruder down, and the other two may run. Or if they shoot back, you still may be able to pick one more off in the confusion.

[FNH]

Perhaps being robbed at gunpoint instills a sense of reality. Having a gun pointed at you that's being held by some wide eyed twitchy teenager is fucking scary. If you think you're going to whip out your pistol Doc Holiday style and re-enact Tombstone in your living room, you're probably doing society a favor by getting shot in the head.

Instilling too much fear on the victim is counterproductive to the robbery as the victim may be frozen by fear and won't retrieve the goods.

[Cyn]

And again, why does he need a concealed handgun permit and a pistol to do that?

And he lives in an apartment, why bother breaking in when you can just hang out and wait for someone to start opening their door to rush them and shove them inside? Not to mention there are still tons of people too stupid to lock their own doors when they're at home, they could be just walking around checking handles for open doors lol.

[Cyn]

Instilling too much fear on the victim is counterproductive to the robbery as the victim may be frozen by fear and won't retrieve the goods.

I'm sure one of the two other dudes could manage to reach into his back pocket and pull his wallet out while the other steals his TV and PS3.

[FNH]

I'm sure one of the two other dudes could manage to reach into his back pocket and pull his wallet out while the other steals his TV and PS3.

I was commenting about run ins on the streets not planned home burglaries. And I'm not arguing against you see my first post in the thread.

[noblemountain]

I still cary my HK MK23 Mod 0. Love it...best handgun I've ever fired.

[Cyn]

The thing about run-ins in the streets is that unless the robber(s) is borderline retarded, he's going to ensure that he has every advantage in the situation. He's not going to pull a gun out a hundred yards away and start jogging slowly towards you. He's going to ambush you. There's pretty much no way you'll ever be able to draw and fire before he pulls the trigger of the gun that's already cocked and aimed at you.

If you're worried about getting held up, do the reasonable thing. Carry small amounts of cash around with you, a moderate sum in your checking account, and the rest of your money in savings, where it's not easily accessible. Honestly, even if the robber is stupid enough to steal your ATM card and go make a withdrawal, your bank will in most cases give you the money back.

And don't go buy an ounce of chronic from someone you barely know.

[Kerberoz]

Why would you need a handgun or CCL for your home? You're better off with a cheap shotgun if you're not going to carry it with you.

[aru]

If you think you're going to whip out your pistol Doc Holiday style and re-enact Tombstone in your living room, you're probably doing society a favor by getting shot in the head.

Why would you say such a thing? That's pretty poor taste to say that someone who is prepared to protect their, and their loved ones, life and property deserves to be shot in the head. Are you trolling this thread for a reason?
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[Omniyoji]

Glock 18 is the solution to your problem!

You'll surely hit the robber, his accomplice, your vases, your TV, your baby, and the wife! Score!

>_>

[Cyn]

Why would you say such a thing? That's pretty poor taste to say that someone who is prepared to protect their, and their loved ones, life and property deserves to be shot in the head. Are you trolling this thread for a reason?
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In the specific instance of several armed robbers, I'd think the best way to protect your loved one's lives would be to give them what they want and file an insurance claim afterward rather than bust out a shotgun and start blowing holes in things. Sure, if it's a lone, apparently unarmed robber, hell yeah, wave a shotgun in his face to scare him away. Or shoot him I guess, if you live in Texas.

[Effluo]

You're not the only one OP ;x There's been a rash of bad break ins uncomfortably close in my usually quiet area (Cypressfag), to the point I've felt the need to keep my gun within relative close proximity. I own a 9mm Beretta Px4, which is nice for my small hands and handles well with little kick (in comparison to firing my dad's H&K USP and a .357 mag for fun-- the later which honestly felt like it could break my wrist). Going to work on CHL once I finish up with my labs for this semester.

Like Cypress, TX? Heh, sounds like you could be my neighbor if so. Shit has turned ghetto recently.

When you go buy a handgun and get robbed at gunpoint by 4 dudes and they take your shiny new pistol, please let us (or at least me) know about it.

How many of you have ever had a gun pulled on you in a robbery by the way?

Point one, I also have a dog for personal protection. He may not be much of a guard dog, but he sure as shit knows when some stranger even gets close to the door. He's my doorbell before anyone even gets close. If someone wanted to try and sneak in during the night, he'd let me know the minute they hit the porch if not sooner. If it's 3am, i'm grabbin my gun. But hey, if it happens, i'll be sure to let you know

As far as your second question, I may have spent plenty of time in Northern Michigan, but I saw more than my share of shit growing up. My house got robbed twice before I was 4. I've seen my share of guns.

When people are scared they buy guns.

This logic is absolutely flawless.

People don't buy guns just because they are scared. I know plenty of people who just buy guns because they have a gun fetish. Is that wrong? I enjoy going to the range and squeezing off a few. I have a rifle left to me by my Gramps that I love to go the range with. It's an older rifle, and gets a lot of compliments. I like to shoot guns. So sue me. I also like to play paintball cause I get to shoot people, and not go to jail for it. I guess I'm just that guy...

Robberies tend to lack weapons as the offender doesn't want to get hurt or get extra time for using a firearm.

Not so long ago this was true. More and more robberies do involve weapons. Not to be cliche, but haven't you seen the shows on spike lately?

They sure are.

Indeed they are. Gun are fun in the right hands. It doesn't have to be about violence and blood shed. Guns are a technological advancement of man. It's cool to see how far we've come in regards to our weaponry. Call me and my friends crazy, but we have a good time going to the range a playing with the occasional AR-15, various handgun, revolvers, rifles and whatever. I would love to spend a day with Ted Nugent and play with his arsenal

And anyway... WTF do you plan to do during the Zombie Apocalypse without at least a fucking pistol? My zombie kit includes 2 katanas, various hunting knives, one rifle (and hopefully soon a handgun), a baseball bat and enough food to last 3 weeks. I'd rather be prepared than trying to chase down people to eat their brains.

[BIGSTIC]

Only way to find the right hand gun for you is to test them at a local range. Every gun feels different in every hand. I prefer Rugger .40's but most hate them. I have a permit but never carry since 90% of the places I work at you would have to keep your piece in the car. So that is where it is 90% of the time, hanging out in a custom lock box in my car.

As for home defense. My weapon of choice is a Tromix converted Saiga 12ga.

[aru]

As for home defense. My weapon of choice is a Tromix converted Saiga 12ga.

I've heard people complain that if you keep the mags loaded for too long that it distorts the top shell. Have you had that problem or is it just a myth in your experience?

[Effluo]

This is gonna sound stupid to a very big lotta you but don't you think that you'd be better off not pulling out a gun and just getting stolen whatever it is that the guy is stealing?

Because the probabilities of getting hurt via a gun is much more likely if you have a gun too, just sayin'.

Incoming OMGWEAPONHATER etc... I'm really just wonderin'.

Why not stop them from doing it to someone else? If you let them role you, they are just going to continue. I worked hard for what I have. Yes, it can be replaced, but for the most part, I'm going to defend it.

Yeah, and when they take two to the chest for reaching quickly for a gun instead of slowly for their wallet they're not afraid anymore either.

Like I said, I also have a dog, and I lock my doors, both of them. Deadbolt x2

But what about the person they sold the handgun that they stole from your house to?

I'm not even trying to make an argument about whether handguns should be legal or anything, I'm just pointing out that depending on a handgun to stop a roving gang of armed robbers from robbing you is likely going to end with you either getting shot or adding another stolen handgun to the black market.

This is speaking more or less specifically to the OP. He knows that there are several armed people doing it, what makes him think going out and buying a handgun is going to help?

I'll be damned if someone is going to steal my gun. They can have it when they pry it from my cold dead hands... Yea, i'm that guy.

Again, they ain't gettin it easily. It's like darwinism... If only they'd had a gun.

Because I know I would at least have the means to protects myself. Should I just sit here and hope it doesn't happen, and if it does they don't do something stoopid? Or can I be prepared in case of home invasion, and be ready for head sucking zombies?

You know what also would be sound logic?

Either Move if you neighborhood is that bad or.. and this is gonna sound very wacky and out there because I'm sure no one has done this before but maybe just maybe it would be better to invest in

Spoiler: show

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Of course this doesn't give one the same erection that a gun would when cleaning it and glancing in front of a mirror reciting Taxi Driver but hey its an option.

Trust me, I'm working on getting the fuck out of here. I'm still paying off debt left to me by my ex-wife in addition to child support. We don't do bad, but we're digging ourselves out of a hole. I'm a Navy Veteran, and on our current plan, we should be out of here and in a house next year. And hey, i'm hoping to get some acreage and even have a little room for some target practice.

I've considered looking into Brinks and the like, but honestly, not sure if that's an expense i want to add.

urfunny

I got no problem with that. You guys can keep all your guns.

I do however have a problem with people that think they're safe because they have a handgun. That its the fix all solution.

I don't think i'm completely safe with a handgun. It does however add another level of protection. There is always the possibility of shit going down...

Effluo, what part of Houston do you live in?

Cypress... Grant/Jones

There have been more than a few cases in Texas where a homeowner or neighbor defended against multiple robbers. And if were talking about armed break-ins, there's a good chance you won't be caught off guard if you were home unexpectedly or wake up and hear it. This gives you time and the element of surprise to draw your gun and defend your house before they realize you have them in your sights. Take one intruder down, and the other two may run. Or if they shoot back, you still may be able to pick one more off in the confusion.

I love Texas, home of castle law and justifiable homicide... yup, i'm that guy.

And again, why does he need a concealed handgun permit and a pistol to do that?

And he lives in an apartment, why bother breaking in when you can just hang out and wait for someone to start opening their door to rush them and shove them inside? Not to mention there are still tons of people too stupid to lock their own doors when they're at home, they could be just walking around checking handles for open doors lol.

As I said in an earlier post, I'd like to pursue a Security/PI career. I am in a position to do that, and well, it makes my dick hard.

I still cary my HK MK23 Mod 0. Love it...best handgun I've ever fired.

Fuck yea!

[burrito]

Like Cypress, TX? Heh, sounds like you could be my neighbor if so. Shit has turned ghetto recently.

When we moved here it was relatively quiet, the community was rather new and all, only problem being it was built on top of/next to a shit neighborhood that I guess they bought out a part of to build over. Up until recently it's been fine, but trash from that area is spilling over into ours bad. (... will it ever stop raining?!)

Honestly, it's weird, but I do feel a bit more at ease when I'm alone at home and know that the gun's there in case of emergency. I never have done very well living on my own, generally tend to wake up to even the slightest noise out of paranoia-- fantastic insomnia spell first year of college. At least this way I know I do have a last resort because there's not many places in the house to effectively hide should someone break in. Bonus is it's been kinda a fun bonding experience with my dad learning how to shoot the gun/get better with my aim at the range.

[Effluo]

Why allow someone to jack you? THIS IS SPARTA!!!!

[Effluo]

When we moved here it was relatively quiet, the community was rather new and all, only problem being it was built on top of/next to a shit neighborhood that I guess they bought out a part of to build over. Up until recently it's been fine, but trash from that area is spilling over into ours bad. (... will it ever stop raining?!)

Honestly, it's weird, but I do feel a bit more at ease when I'm alone at home and know that the gun's there in case of emergency. I never have done very well living on my own, generally tend to wake up to even the slightest noise out of paranoia-- fantastic insomnia spell first year of college. At least this way I know I do have a last resort because there's not many places in the house to effectively hide should someone break in. Bonus is it's been kinda a fun bonding experience with my dad learning how to shoot the gun/get better with my aim at the range.

Well, you may have heard of Village in the Woods? That's my little slice of the ghetto. The neighborhood behind us tried to have the place condemned a few years back. Management used that to get a grant and try to fix up the place. All they did was put new hardiplank over the old shit and slap a coat of paint on it. They have at least installed gates and it seems to have made it a bit better. But lately, shit has been crazy.

My grandparents both slept with a loaded gun under their pillow (inb4 shooting themselves). This was in the middle of BFE northern MI. But my family is from Detroit, we know about dealin with some shit. It's another layer of security, that's what that feeling is.... Terrorist, Robber, Ex-wife, Uninvited Congressman, or Zombie, I got my sights on you. Yup, i'm that guy.