Concealed Handgun License

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Pussies.

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[Melchiah]

You do not require a concealed weapons permit for a weapon you keep in your home; a permit allows you to carry the weapon concealed on your person or in your vehicle.

As for home defense, as was stated earlier in this thread, there is no better weapon than a pump shotgun. In today's culture in America, there is no more recognizable sound than that of a pump shotgun being cocked. That is your best deterrent, because you will most likely not have to even point the weapon at an intruder; just cock the gun and let the sound do the work.

[thestalkmore]

When you go buy a handgun and get robbed at gunpoint by 4 dudes and they take your shiny new pistol, please let us (or at least me) know about it.

How many of you have ever had a gun pulled on you in a robbery by the way?

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[Melchiah]

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It wasn't stuck in my face, nor was I robbed but I did have a very inebriated Mexican pull his shirt up and display his revolver to me at a party one night a few years back.

I left shortly thereafter. Avoidance is best.

[Effluo]

It wasn't stuck in my face, nor was I robbed but I did have a very inebriated Mexican pull his shirt up and display his revolver to me at a party one night a few years back.

I left shortly thereafter. Avoidance is best.

Idda been like 'Sup esse, don't you know i'm loco? BANG BANG!

In all seriousness, leaving was probably best. Me and my redneck friends like to have bonfires and get drunk, but one thing I will be doing on those nights is leaving my gun at home. Crazy drunks + guns = bad shit can happen. I'd rather avoid situations like that all together.

People who feel empowered like the vato you mentioned give responsible people a bad name. Glad it didn't go any further.

[Khamsin]

You'd go to jail in nearly every state for doing that. Especially if you shot him in the back.

That's why you shout at them first, say something provocative to get their attention and make them turn around. Tell the police they threatened you from that distance. Since they have a gun, it'll be ok.

[jmc]

I dunno about you all but if I had a gun drawn on me I'd be more interested in buying a kevlar vest then a gun to protect myself. Granted if I get shot in the head it wont matter. I don't think I could pull a gun out, aim, and then shoot before someone who is already pointing a gun at me can fire his weapon. Let alone shoot 3-4 other guys who are pointing them at me.

I personally like guns. I think I like the mechanics of guns more then the application of guns though. I'd rather take a gun apart and put it back together than I would like to go out and shoot stuff with it. In fact if I actually did have a gun I probably would never have any ammunition for it anyways.

You dont want to be walking around in a vest all day, they suck for extended use.

[Quixon]

You'd go to jail in nearly every state for doing that. Especially if you shot him in the back.

Shoot them in the knee, then you can't be tried for attempted manslaughter.

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[Cyn]

There's no such thing as attempted manslaughter.

[Killkenny]

Jesus christ the american mentality (over generalisation I know but obviously a lot of people here) is absolutely devoid of logic. Someone attempting to break into your house is a lot less likely to do it if they are aware you are in it, if you aren't then buying some window locks and an extra lock for your front door is much more effective and cheaper than a gun, and you can buy dead bolts for your front and back door for when you are in. What % of burgleries in america actually happen while the person living there is in and I'm guessing its a much much lowerer % where the robber is actually aware there is someone in.

If you are getting mugged you are already at a disadvantage and even if you are Doc Holiday you are still far more likely to get shot/stabbed if you try and pull a gun on the mugger. Its pretty simple concept that you only carry petty cash on you, everywhere will take a credit/debit card these days.

Burglers are robbers are not serial killers, they want your possessions not your life. Why risk harm to yourself and anyone you are with when its probably cheaper to get home insurance and a proper set of locks.

I do not have an anti-gun agenda to anything I've said and if people want to own guns for recreational use then I can't find a reason to fault that, its purely based on the facts because unless its a serial killer kicking in your front door you are better off without a gun.

[chiyio]

Got to love Montana. You can carry concealed WITHOUT a permit so long as you are not in a City, Mining Camp, or Logging Camp. For those you have to get the sheriff to issue you a permit. Pretty much fill out a form, wait a month, get permit.

The Utah permit is the best to get (so I have read) because it is the most widely accepted state to state. Also takes the longest and most $$$

I have a Utah CCP (Concealed Firearm Permit), and it seems to be good in most states that allow concealed carry. But it works differently depending on if you're a resident of the state or not. It's good in a lot more states if you're actually a Utah resident.

You just take a class, and then send your information, fingerprints, picture, and any criminal history into the Utah BCI (bureau of criminal identification) along with a, I think, $65 fee.

I don't really ever carry though, was more to just get informed about the laws and to avoid any problems with accidentally "concealing" if I"m going to pop off a few shots at the range or something.

If you're going to carry, just remember, the second you pull the gun, you've committed assault already, the situation better justify assault and battery (pulling the trigger) because you're already in deep shit just by pulling it out (or displaying it in any way that could be considered threatening, like the lifting the shirt example).

It doesn't bother me if people carry all the time, but I feel no personal need or desire to.

For home defense, you want a shotgun or dog.

also, lol at shooting in the knee, concealed weapons are really hard to hit shit with, they're nothing like what you'd take to the range for target shooting. they're very light and small, which makes them much harder to be accurate with. Add adrenaline into that and you're not going to be targeting shit.

targeted shooting is for the movies, in the real world, you aim for the center, and probably empty your clip. (assuming your real world involves shooting at people)

[Effluo]

There's no such thing as attempted manslaughter.

Depends on the state.. some states do have trials for "Attempts"

[Cyn]

Attempted murder though yeah?

I'm not a lawyer, but I always thought manslaughter charges required someone actually dying. I know murder charges can be reduced to voluntary manslaughter, but can attempted murder? Seems like it would just be reduced to assault with a deadly weapon or something.

[Effluo]

Attempted murder though yeah?

I'm not a lawyer, but I always thought manslaughter charges required someone actually dying. I know murder charges can be reduced to voluntary manslaughter, but can attempted murder? Seems like it would just be reduced to assault with a deadly weapon or something.

Deseret News | Woman faces 2 counts: attempted manslaughter - Utah

Cable Could Face Attempted Manslaughter Charges | NBC Bay Area -California

Goodyear man charged with attempted manslaughter - Arizona

shall i continue?

[Akucaen]

When you go buy a handgun and get robbed at gunpoint by 4 dudes and they take your shiny new pistol, please let us (or at least me) know about it.

How many of you have ever had a gun pulled on you in a robbery by the way?

I have.

[Cyn]

Well shit, it's a good thing I'm not a lawyer.

[Demosthenes]

Mac-10 or nothing around the hood!