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  1. #301
    Every day I'm wafflin'
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    Anyway I'm done arguing about this because the whole thing is a joke.

  2. #302
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    Quote Originally Posted by drwaffles View Post
    It's a fucking secret because only around 20 people across all servers knew that it was mathematically possible to take down AV in this fashion. Hell, only our group actually got the timing down accurately enough to manage it realistically because we used OnEvent.
    Don't kid yourself. <_< I've discussed this with LS mates, friends, and even my roommates who don't play FFXI. Tons of people knew about this. Anyone with basic math skills knew this was possible assuming they knew how MV worked, we just didn't know if SE had implemented some sort of "failsafe" when this is tried to stack with huge numbers or not, since not many linkshells have 9 SCHs sitting around.

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    The only thing they had that everyone else didn't was experience with the timing and I'm pretty sure he didn't give that away with a forum post.

  4. #304
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    Quote Originally Posted by Therin View Post
    Don't kid yourself. <_< I've discussed this with LS mates, friends, and even my roommates who don't play FFXI. Tons of people knew about this. Anyone with basic math skills knew this was possible assuming they knew how MV worked, we just didn't know if SE had implemented some sort of "failsafe" when this is tried to stack with huge numbers or not, since not many linkshells have 9 SCHs sitting around.
    Cool factor x10.

    Even if this does work SE will patch it right away because they realized they kinda broke the game making a mob essentially drop a relic with other amazing shit so they'll keep making it un-killable.

  5. #305
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    Oh I forgot that this game is so easy that anyone who reads this topic will be able to do it now.

  6. #306
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    Nice find! (with a video too) Anyone on Midgard that wants to play around with it, let me know. I've got my merits capped on SCH for this experiement.

  7. #307
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spira View Post
    so can we give it a nicer name while it still exists? like Helix-burn? MV trick makes it sound so dirty.
    Mortem Veritas?

  8. #308
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    Quote Originally Posted by D44kpunk View Post
    Yup, SE intended for all of the "difficult" mobs in the game to be one shot by using onevent on ffxi-app.
    Well - we weren't using ffxiapp for it. Just "pr0 timing" like stuning GOH or Fulmination (yes yes i know - it's so fucking impossible to stun that people need bots and onEvent LOL).
    You don't need bots (and thanks god ffxiapp is dead now) - just people, who aren't retarded.

  9. #309
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yvonne View Post
    Nice find! (with a video too) Anyone on Midgard that wants to play around with it, let me know. I've got my merits capped on SCH for this experiement.
    Same for Gilgamesh, if someone plan on it

  10. #310
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    The only reason we used OnEvent if because we had several people multi-boxing SCHs. Of course it's not required, it just made things simpler.

  11. #311
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    You only say that because you have them also that's blasphemy, boobs are one of the most special things in the world.

  12. #312
    I Have The Clap Again
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    ah ok well drama scale 5/10 needs some ss's of people conspiring to keep av drops might make it a 6 it's still aiight drama tho for these days.

  13. #313
    The Mizzle Fizzle of Nikkei's Haremizzle

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    Quote Originally Posted by Titanss View Post
    ah ok well drama scale 5/10 needs some ss's of people conspiring to keep av drops might make it a 6 it's still aiight drama tho for these days.

    I know right? Then again beggers cant be choosers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kamilus View Post
    You don't need bots (and thanks god ffxiapp is dead now) - just people, who aren't retarded.
    GL finding 10 people that leveled SCH to 75 that aren't retarded.

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    I haven't read past page 6, but I just wanted to say it's confusing as fuck to see you guys talking about Pawky, and having remind myself that it's not me.

    Also, I'm pissed that someone called Pawk is on Garuda...

  16. #316
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    Boobs are severely overrated.

  17. #317
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    Quote Originally Posted by Day View Post
    GL finding 10 people that leveled SCH to 75 that aren't retarded.
    This is almost impossible on Ragnarok.

  18. #318
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shenrien View Post
    This is almost impossible everywhere.
    ftfy

  19. #319
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    We tried doing this a few weeks ago, we one shotted a UFO, but doing it on a UFO and doing it on AV are very different things. We failed on AV, best we got it down to was 90%, and seedz claims his LS got th3e timing down to a science................ we no AV deaths to date, so guess this method aint going to work.

  20. #320
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    Quote Originally Posted by Day View Post
    GL finding 10 people that leveled SCH to 75 that aren't retarded.
    Well that was no problem at all. Leaders said to level and some people in LS did. Simple as hell. This is 7-14 days these days. Then some tests and practices. Where do you see any problem?
    If people are not retarded they don't need any bots. There are two ways to do it perfectly.
    Maybe you need better LS to see how to play? Or just ask your best BLMs to level SCH (i bet they will do it for AV purpose - like we did).
    The only secret in strat is that you need perfection. We had one SCH who didn't understand this strat. From last try we got like 4-5 more SCHs in LS. You think it is so hard?

    q_q moar if you have to play with shitty players. AV is for best LSs, not for weak Q_Q playerbase.

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