Goodbye present - how to kill AV (before it's patched)

[sruon]

Yo Seedz, I'ma let you finish dawg, but using Trial accounts with bots to claim stuff was Nours' best idea ever.
All of you fuck tards that play innocent need to go die in a fire.

When you have such a sheer amount of GM calls stacked up against you you can be banned on the spot forever for breaking rules.
Being a dick and abusing the game will eventually come back to bite you in the ass.

Actually that was Cair lol

[Cairthenn]

Actually that was Cair lol

Guilty It worked wonderfully though, too bad I got bored.

Also, my account doesn't even have a warning. Since when is botting actually bannable in FFXI?

[Seedz]

Is Vyerz from TheATeam? Shouldn't he be looking for screenshots? HOHOHO

[Hanyoko]

For the sake of argument lets say all 9SCHs are botting it, and they have the bot set to use MV when '(player) says something). The player who says something is the person timing it, who knows how to time it well. So that person just had w/e typed out, and hits enter about 1sec before the window opens to give the bots time to react. Imo that would get it to work depending on the player triggering the bots.

Why would you need a bot when you can just spam a macro of /ja "Modus Veritas" <t>

A little backhistory some people may not realise. MV used to be usable at any time; this was actually a fairly decent claiming tool. But SE fixed it so the ability will only activate if the target has a helix on it.

So the real hinge is getting the helix to land about a second before the damage tick.


Without spending the 150,000 exp to fully merit MV; having any more then 1 MV applied to the mob is almost worthless.

[Vyerz]

Botting never gets you banned because they can't prove it, but every time someone GM's you it gets marked on your account, literally, and it's never removed.

I got perma banned for MPKing a Dynamis that I never even entered in, go figure.

Pretty sure you have quite a few marks on your account Cair.

Edit: Seedz you just spent the last 3 days making yourself look like a complete and utter douchebag. Why don't you go crawl under a hole and die.

"Wah I'm a little bitch so I'm gonna go out with a bang cuz secksi got a dring" <- fucking lol

Dude. Put down the razor blades, go downstairs, tell your mom you're moving out of the house, and realize that you can't always be the winrar in life.

[sruon]

Why would you need a bot when you can just spam a macro of /ja "Modus Veritas" <t>

A little backhistory some people may not realise. MV used to be usable at any time; this was actually a fairly decent claiming tool. But SE fixed it so the ability will only activate if the target has a helix on it.

So the real hinge is getting the helix to land about a second before the damage tick.


Without spending the 150,000 exp to fully merit MV; having any more then 1 MV applied to the mob is almost worthless.

You can spam but if you're limited on the number of the SCH (which we were) and have to rely on the helixer to MV as well, onevent is the best.

Here's a SS of spamming and Cair not able to get his off.

http://worldoffantasy.free.fr/spammv.png

[Suiram]

ice on genbu?

[Bikpik]

ice on genbu?

Cryohelix is the best to use because of the +5Int and +skill on the ice staff, and +int from stormsurge.

[Day]

Is he even resistant to Ice? i dun remember

[Max™]

He casts Water spells.

[Day]

You're a water spell

[Suiram]

He's resistant to everything but Thunder, but having never used ice on him since I was given the rundown on what to do and what not to do on my first day of sky farming 4 years ago, I don't know if it even matters with ES lol I figured there had to be some reason, but I felt it was a fun joke to make anyway (although usually you'd see it the other way, people who have only previously done sky using Thunder on Aspid).

[Virtuous Saint]

He's resistant to everything but Thunder, but having never used ice on him since I was given the rundown on what to do and what not to do on my first day of sky farming 4 years ago, I don't know if it even matters with ES lol I figured there had to be some reason, but I felt it was a fun joke to make anyway (although usually you'd see it the other way, people who have only previously done sky using Thunder on Aspid).

I remember casting ES FreezeII on him and being at least 1/2 resisted. You are exactly right, it is weak to thunder and that is what you should use against it despite the slight INT boost you would get from Ice. All sky gods are seemingly highly resistant to all elements except 1 element they are weak to, and by weak I mean it doesn't resist nearly as often with the right gear.

[drwaffles]

I laughed at him for not casting Iono too, and to think we would've killed it in one barrage easily if he had!

[Max™]

You're a water spell

Oh god lol, I just caught that, but yeah, I meant what was explained further down, only one element related to their main element will show anything like a decent resist rate.

[Yugl]

You're using MV right before the first tick? That's like the very instant is lands for PS2 users (At least for me).

[Cairthenn]

Pretty sure you have quite a few marks on your account Cair.

No.

[Doink]

Is an 8 MV not possible for AV?


Base damage would have to be in the 260 range. Kaeko's LJ shows them landing a 145 noctohelix with SV etudes, wizard rolls w/blm in party. I assume int potion and ebullience were also used but they're not mentioned.

I'm having a hard time with the math myself. I can't quite get numbers to match.

Iceday alone would add +12 int, burn on AV would add another 13 int (assuming AV gets the max -13 int down affect). Add a blu for a memento mori and +20 MAB, a smn during night for dream shroud +10% MAB and new moon for another +7 int.
And then have a sam SC for magic burst.

My math gets that number over 260 but since I can't really match what Kaeko was actually getting so it is probably wrong. Of course all of this involves the stars lining up correctly, but this is AV for crying out loud.

Also, SV etudes x2 = +56 int?

[Cruzizzle]

I was running the numbers contemplating the same thing myself. One of the things you usually don't deal with in the magic damage calcs is the dint inflection point and/or the dint cap. I'm guessing trying to max the helix out you are hitting these points. What those points are would be quite a useful piece of info if anyone has tested it out...

[Thorny]

Is an 8 MV not possible for AV?


Base damage would have to be in the 260 range. Kaeko's LJ shows them landing a 145 noctohelix with SV etudes, wizard rolls w/blm in party. I assume int potion and ebullience were also used but they're not mentioned.

I'm having a hard time with the math myself. I can't quite get numbers to match.

Iceday alone would add +12 int, burn on AV would add another 13 int (assuming AV gets the max -13 int down affect). Add a blu for a memento mori and +20 MAB, a smn during night for dream shroud +10% MAB and new moon for another +7 int.
And then have a sam SC for magic burst.

My math gets that number over 260 but since I can't really match what Kaeko was actually getting so it is probably wrong. Of course all of this involves the stars lining up correctly, but this is AV for crying out loud.

Also, SV etudes x2 = +56 int?

while we're doing this during new moon, iceday, and nighttime.. we should find a practical use for horror helms