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  1. #41
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    Speaking of MMM, is there a good guide anywhere? I haven't touched MMM much since my SP broke since we were 0/30ish on drops. That was before the item increase chances update though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corrderio View Post
    Speaking of MMM, is there a good guide anywhere? I haven't touched MMM much since my SP broke since we were 0/30ish on drops. That was before the item increase chances update though.
    Just post your questions in the MMM Findings thread and they'll get answered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gergall View Post
    Just post your questions in the MMM Findings thread and they'll get answered.
    Okay that works. Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Viq View Post
    I've gotten INT+3, MAB+2, MDB+2, which is pretty awesome. INT+4, MAB+2, M.acc+2 is theoretically possible.
    Even if it was possible, the chance you score something like this is so low it's not worthwhile

    You won't get praised for such item, people will just hate you for being lucky. You don't look different since it's just an accessory, and SE will probably release a slightly better alternative in the future, that will make you regret wasting all these hours for 2 more dmg on pudding.



    Just post your questions in the MMM Findings thread and they'll get answered.
    With post telling you to read the whole thing!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaylia View Post
    With post telling you to read the whole thing!
    Bullshit, hope this is a troll attempt because MMM thread has some of the most helpful people you'll find here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deimos View Post
    Source of:
    • Extremely easy 20k+/hour exp at any level, camp never taken, built-in wc breaks every ~20 mins.
    • Best easily-obtainable HMP neckpiece in the game.
    • Best easily-obtainable MND earring in the game. (Good luck with a Celestial)
    • The only Reraise III item in the game except for an AV drop (and the AV drop has ~1/4 as many charges).
    • Best BLU sword in the game short of Mythic. (I think?)
    • Only Fast Cast belt in the game.
    • Only Snapshot belt in the game.
    • Best known nuking belt in the game.


    What else did I miss that people don't care about?
    What is this item you speak of?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spider-Dan View Post
    What is this item you speak of?
    Finish Voucher 5 with Chaperix as a Barrager and you will get a RNG-style belt. Just as Spellslinger can get you a Fast Cast+1 belt, Barrager can get you a Snapshot+1 belt.

    In theory you should be able to get something with Snapshot+1, AGI+X, Racc or Ratt+Y

    My friend just got a nice RNG belt I'll come back and post it when I can.

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    Friend's belt is 4 AGI, 6 Acc, 1 Snapshot

    That's acc not racc.

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    Holy Jesus christ this filled up quick, and the question i was answering is already answered >.>

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaylia View Post
    Even if it was possible, the chance you score something like this is so low it's not worthwhile

    You won't get praised for such item, people will just hate you for being lucky. You don't look different since it's just an accessory, and SE will probably release a slightly better alternative in the future, that will make you regret wasting all these hours for 2 more dmg on pudding.
    I don't care about being "praised"; I want gear that is better. And as mentioned above, if this belt were BLM-only, I wouldn't be bothering. But it isn't.

    I have some great items that I helped 2 other people get too, and another person after that. It was a whole lot less effort than a lot of FFXI content. Now there's an item I can get by putting in maybe an hour a day doing something different, and doing it solo. SE might release a 3 MAB belt for COR one day...they might do a lot of unlikely things. I might be able to get 2+ MAB via an FoV augment. I'm gonna go with MMM, though.

    Also, yes, the MMM thread has been just a barrel of helpful from the start.

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    I personally love doing Voucher 05. Chaperix is badass and the worms are glitched so if you time a diaga right you can have worms chasing you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baelorn View Post
    I wouldn't call content good content just because people are doing it.
    Nyzul armor must be the best armor in the game if people are enough of a dumbshit to believe "being used" directly calculates to "useful" and not "passing time 'cuz we're bored".

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    I didnt have time to do MMM till recently and I really do care now lol, still collecting runes I want to custom my mazes well, but Im really on the "do care" side now.

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    Well, I like Denali Bonnet / Body for Trick Attack on my THF... Askar hands for PLD, Askar feet for DT-% Set... Goliard Chap for my HMP Set, Body is good for a few jobs, and the hands aren't half bad.

    Thats all i got for it. Oh, and Nyzul Weaponskills are kick ass for most jobs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bakthi View Post
    I don't care about being "praised"; I want gear that is better. And as mentioned above, if this belt were BLM-only, I wouldn't be bothering. But it isn't.

    I have some great items that I helped 2 other people get too, and another person after that. It was a whole lot less effort than a lot of FFXI content. Now there's an item I can get by putting in maybe an hour a day doing something different, and doing it solo. SE might release a 3 MAB belt for COR one day...they might do a lot of unlikely things. I might be able to get 2+ MAB via an FoV augment. I'm gonna go with MMM, though.
    Don't get me wrong, I liked MMM, and was going every time I could. However, grinding for item like this is borderline ridiculous. If you want to be a better player, I'm absolutely certain there is ton of things you could do that would improve your character more than this (especially since obi are better for reliable epeen screenshot).

    And seriously, if you reached the point where all you want is minor side grade that takes months to get, find a new hobby. You're just going to hate yourself the day you move to ffxiv and realize how much time you wasted.

  16. #56
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    I care :3
    I've been doing voucher 05 every 1-3 days since it was released. It's fun, easy, and I'd like a blm belt.

  17. #57
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaylia View Post
    Don't get me wrong, I liked MMM, and was going every time I could. However, grinding for item like this is borderline ridiculous. If you want to be a better player, I'm absolutely certain there is ton of things you could do that would improve your character more than this (especially since obi are better for reliable epeen screenshot).

    And seriously, if you reached the point where all you want is minor side grade that takes months to get, find a new hobby. You're just going to hate yourself the day you move to ffxiv and realize how much time you wasted.
    wait anything in a MMO is not just a waste of time? I play Aion now a lot and its just as much a waste of time as FFXI was.No clue how the end game gear will work (im only 12 right now, need to ring the bell! )
    I did a ton of work in FFXI, I just ran out of time to play end game stuff. Its all the same just a way to waste time. If they have fun doing it then who are you to tell them its not worth it? I play a lot of off-line games, guess what? no one sees what I do there. Its just fun.

    MMM seems like a nice way to get decent gear (some the best) and you can do it at a slow pace and whenever you want. Yes most end game stuff can be *low manned* What can be *low manned* in under 1hr and have a shot to give you a great item; sky gods? sea gods(oh ya 5% cape drops!) maybe your talking about HNM, the ones that are 21-24hrs or maybe the 3 day+ spanws?

    I am going to look into it maybe I can do a run every few days.

    edit: random stuff i added
    edit2: i was rereading your stuff, I might of somewhat missed your point. Still for the most part my points stand.

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    I must be doing something wrong, because I have a ton of fun with MMM and almost never do V07.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dejet View Post
    wait anything in a MMO is not just a waste of time? I play Aion now a lot and its just as much a waste of time as FFXI was.No clue how the end game gear will work (im only 12 right now, need to ring the bell! )
    I did a ton of work in FFXI, I just ran out of time to play end game stuff. Its all the same just a way to waste time. If they have fun doing it then who are you to tell them its not worth it? I play a lot of off-line games, guess what? no one sees what I do there. Its just fun.

    MMM seems like a nice way to get decent gear (some the best) and you can do it at a slow pace and whenever you want. Yes most end game stuff can be *low manned* What can be *low manned* in under 1hr and have a shot to give you a great item; sky gods? sea gods(oh ya 5% cape drops!) maybe your talking about HNM, the ones that are 21-24hrs or maybe the 3 day+ spanws?

    I am going to look into it maybe I can do a run every few days.

    edit: random stuff i added
    edit2: i was rereading your stuff, I might of somewhat missed your point. Still for the most part my points stand.
    Gambling and drug addict often tell you they have fun. I personally think obsessive player who are willing to spend hundred of hours on a tiny upgrade crossed that line between "game" and "obsession". Maybe it's just me, but farming for the sake of getting gears is retarded, especially when it doesn't open new opportunities

    There is many different system in MMM, and I'm not going to start a case by case argument for every piece of gears. My point was mostly directed at the retarded "augmented belt". To get something better, you would need to be incredibly lucky, and let's face it, it's not going to change anything to your gameplay. If you still enjoy running your goblin through the same maze, go for it, it got old for me after 15-20 succesful run.



    While every MMO are a waste of time, I disagree that every waste of time are equals. Some are much worse than other, and make your brain melt in a puddle of gray matter faster.

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    Probably wont care any more than I already do unless they add another best in slot evasion piece.


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