Patch 3.3 Deployed on PTR

[Rokku]

Oh, I haven't really been reading up on DK stuff for the patch. But I guess that's something at least. I thought unholy relied mainly on disease dmg though? <_<; brb looking up this change.

Scourge strike is getting changed into a primarily physical strike with an added amount of shadow damage based on the amount of physical damage dealt. That, paired with the nerf to 4pcT9 shifts a significant amount of Unholy's DPS off of Diseases and into the physical portion of SS's damage, increasing the value of ArPen for the spec by leaps and bounds.

[Tricen]

Why are they nerfing t94pc. It's not THAT good tbh. If they fking nerf it, bring back god damned full damage heertstrike on additional targets you assholes.

[Rokku]

Why are they nerfing t94pc. It's not THAT good tbh. If they fking nerf it, bring back god damned full damage heertstrike on additional targets you assholes.

Direct yourself to the new Glyph of Icy Touch, and you'll understand why they took Frost Fever off of 4pcT9.

[Tricen]

Doo doo doo, lemme look it up.

[Tricen]

frost fever ticks for lik 800, the glyph adds about 160 more damage and a little more for crits. So you'll be doing like 220 more damage ish than normal? Doesn't sound OP to me at all :/. Not like I'd wanna sacrifice DRW/DS/Disease glyph for it... Not to mention you lose critting on it, so you're actually losing dps regardless. Pretty shitty imo.

[Plow]

clearly aimed at DKs and Warriors over Paladins.

No, it's not.

Expertise and hit are easy as fuck for us to get, and haste is barely if any better at all.


Don't even start that shit.

[Rokku]

With it being able to crit on FF from the 4pcT9, that effectively turns the 160 extra damage per tick into 320 damage on a crit tick. Wandering Plague can proc off of a crit disease tick and has the ability to crit on it's own, effectively making it a 4x crit, turning your 320 bonus damage into a 640 damage increase, effectively adding bonus damage almost equal to a full tick of base frost fever damage. This might sound like something that doesn't happen very often, but with 4pcT9 and a decent amount of crit it actually occurs fairly frequently.

Also, since I didn't see your post before I hit submit on this Plow, I was being snide.

[Tricen]

Hunter weapon


Also, I only really know from a blood perspective. Still though, changing the whole set bonuses for 1 spec is pretty stupid :/

[Rokku]

Also, I only really know from a blood perspective. Still though, changing the whole set bonuses for 1 spec is pretty stupid :/

While I sympathize with that, you also have to realize that if they had left it that way, every DK spec would have the Icy Touch glyph as a mandatory glyph and never switch off of 4pcT9, because with crit rates scaling steadily upwards you'd eventually reach the point where almost every FF tick would be a crit, making 4pcT9 and crit glyphed FF ticks unstoppable for every spec.

[Tricen]

It would be a very very long time before that's even feasible lol. By then the game would be a lot different.

[Rokku]

Icy Touch and by proxy Frost Fever scale with AP and by association STR. 4pcT9 with that glyph would effectively make the Icy Touch glyph a larger DPS increase for every spec than a lot of the glyphs that are widely used. Wouldn't even need to scale up with ICC gear, that's just the ultimate realization of said scaling.

[Tricen]

Well, unbuffed, my crit rate for fever is around 27%~, which is a decent amount. I guess I'll just wait and see what ends up being better. I'm sure at that point drw will just be terrible and you'll put the extra point into morbidity or something. Or just respec as unholy <______<

[Rokku]

Better will be whatever spec you enjoy playing. The glyph won't even be worth a second glance to any spec other than Frost and possibly Unholy without 4pcT9's frost fever crits.

[Tricen]

Yeah true

[ravbane]

Unholy will definitely want that glyph. The recommended 3 are Dark Death, Icy Touch, and Ghoul.

[Rokku]

Unholy will definitely want that glyph. The recommended 3 are Dark Death, Icy Touch, and Ghoul.

Doesn't surprise me, GoDisease was a less than optimal glyph for Unholy anyhow.

[ravbane]

GoDisease gains with the change to scourge strike since scourge strike becomes more valuable than 2 blood strikes now. IT glyph still wins because of how unholy buffs disease damage.

[Gulkeeva]

Can't wait for the patch.. new bullets/arrows.. new decent looking weapons for hunter!

I hope when 3.3 hits.. I'll get lucky with ranged weapon drops and it'll drop on first kill like the heroic togc bow did for me...

[Tricen]

Yeah, Azric (from Sargeras) wouldn't stfu about it. lol

[Jodwahh]

Can't wait for the patch.. new bullets/arrows.. new decent looking weapons for hunter!

I hope when 3.3 hits.. I'll get lucky with ranged weapon drops and it'll drop on first kill like the heroic togc bow did for me...

A fire, die in. QQ