New FFXIV Scans 6 October 2009

[Kainos]

I know I'm in the minority, but is anyone losing appeal with this game because of the class names?

Lancer, Archer? Why not Dragoon and Ranger. Thaumaturgist?

I'll save my judgment but I really wish they would keep some consistency with the FF series. God knows I won't play this game because SE makes great MMO's, but only because the Final Fantasy name is attached to it.

[Kawfee]

I know I'm in the minority, but is anyone losing appeal with this game because of the class names?

Lancer, Archer? Why not Dragoon and Ranger. Thaumaturgist?

I'll save my judgment but I really wish they would keep some consistency with the FF series. God knows I won't play this game because SE makes great MMO's, but only because the Final Fantasy name is attached to it.

Who gives a shit what the class name is?
And, who's to say there's not a tier of similar classes; ie: swordsman is base, then as you skill up, you have access to samurai or fencer or something, etc.

Could be Archer -> Ranger -> _____?

Either way, point still stands, what does it matter what they call it. And, I believe, many of their names are FF names, just not FFXI names.

[Seph]

Who gives a shit what the class name is?

Pretty much yeah

Gladiator = (Warrior)
Archer = (Ranger)
Lancer = (Dragoon)
etc

We also have already seen pictures of a monk and black mage

[Rulke]

I know I'm in the minority, but is anyone losing appeal with this game because of the class names?

Lancer, Archer? Why not Dragoon and Ranger. Thaumaturgist?

I'll save my judgment but I really wish they would keep some consistency with the FF series. God knows I won't play this game because SE makes great MMO's, but only because the Final Fantasy name is attached to it.

Lancer, Archer etc are staple names in the FF: Tactics series. Nothing new or strange about them

[Kainos]

Who gives a shit what the class name is?
And, who's to say there's not a tier of similar classes; ie: swordsman is base, then as you skill up, you have access to samurai or fencer or something, etc.

Could be Archer -> Ranger -> _____?

Either way, point still stands, what does it matter what they call it. And, I believe, many of their names are FF names, just not FFXI names.

* Archer (bows)
* Gladiator (two-handed swords)
* Lancer (spears)
* Marauder (two-handed axes)
* Pugilist (claws) )

* Shaman (?)
* Thaumaturgist (staves)

None of those job names are mainstays in the main FF series(1-12), the 3 that are familiar come from Final Fantasy Tactics(Which I consider separate)

For the record Gladiator does NOT = Warrior. If anything you're thinking of Berserker. The Gladiator job was only added to FFV advance as a bonus job when the game was rereleased, either way its not the same thing b/c they can their weapons with elemental attacks which isn't the same as WAR.

I know most people don't care, but speaking as a long-term fan of the series it takes away from the nostalgia aspect. I don't want to grab a pair of God Hand's and say, HEY I'M A PUGILIST! They already changed the race names, whats next? renaming Chocobo's? :/

[Cadsuane]

Aaaaand no one else cares

[Subster]

* Archer (bows)
* Gladiator (two-handed swords)
* Lancer (spears)
* Marauder (two-handed axes)
* Pugilist (claws) )

* Shaman (?)
* Thaumaturgist (staves)

None of those job names are mainstays in the main FF series(1-12), the 3 that are familiar come from Final Fantasy Tactics(Which I consider separate)

For the record Gladiator does NOT = Warrior. If anything you're thinking of Berserker. The Gladiator job was only added to FFV advance as a bonus job when the game was rereleased, either way its not the same thing b/c they can their weapons with elemental attacks which isn't the same as WAR.

I know most people don't care, but speaking as a long-term fan of the series it takes away from the nostalgia aspect. I don't want to grab a pair of God Hand's and say, HEY I'M A PUGILIST! They already changed the race names, whats next? renaming Chocobo's? :/

I'm new, but this ^

[SephYuyX]

* Archer (bows)
* Gladiator (two-handed swords)
* Lancer (spears)
* Marauder (two-handed axes)
* Pugilist (claws) )

* Shaman (?)
* Thaumaturgist (staves)

None of those job names are mainstays in the main FF series(1-12), the 3 that are familiar come from Final Fantasy Tactics(Which I consider separate)

For the record Gladiator does NOT = Warrior. If anything you're thinking of Berserker. The Gladiator job was only added to FFV advance as a bonus job when the game was rereleased, either way its not the same thing b/c they can their weapons with elemental attacks which isn't the same as WAR.

I know most people don't care, but speaking as a long-term fan of the series it takes away from the nostalgia aspect. I don't want to grab a pair of God Hand's and say, HEY I'M A PUGILIST! They already changed the race names, whats next? renaming Chocobo's? :/

Seriously? Youre complaining about their naming conventions? Ive been playing FF since the first one came out, and theres nothing wrong with their choices.

If anything you should be more pissed off as using summons as gdamn autobots in FF13.

[Kaluuki]

In all honesty, I find the new names refreshing. Besides, it won't take away from the fun factor of FF14.

Oh, on another note... the new names might also be because it's a "new world", or whatever as well.

And I agree, I'm a little more angry at the fact that summons are like 'droids in FF13 than I am at new class names in 14. lol

[Draylo]

I agree, I dislike the names a lot. They definitely should have stuck with the original names imo.

[bechyni]

I agree, I dislike the names a lot. They definitely should have stuck with the original names imo.

By original names I'm assuming you mean White mage, Black mage, Red Mage, Thief, Warrior, Monk, Knight, White wizard, Black wizard, Red wizard, Master, and Ninja from FF1

[Silenka]

Had to have SOME difference between 11 and 14 besides the graphics and tail-less galkas >.>

[Kenai]

IIRC the whole reason they are making these names separate from mainstay FF classes was to leave them more open-ended in gameplay terms. No "they are ruining the FF lore by making ____ able to/unable to _____ ! Look at FF___!"

If it actually translates to a little more flexibility in classes and abilities that will suit me just fine.

[bechyni]

IIRC the whole reason they are making these names separate from mainstay FF classes was to leave them more open-ended in gameplay terms. No "they are ruining the FF lore by making ____ able to/unable to _____ ! Look at FF___!"

That's pretty much true for every Final Fantasy though, everyone will always compare one to another.

[Kenai]

That's pretty much true for every Final Fantasy though, everyone will always compare one to another.

Let them compare. Lancers won't be expected to jump because they aren't Dragoons. Pugilists might be able to steal because they aren't Monks. See what I mean? The classes won't be expected to have/not have certain previous job abilities because they don't carry said job's name, even if they might be the same in a gameplay sense. Why would you expect ____ job to do ____ otherwise?

[bechyni]

Let them compare. Lancers won't be expected to jump because they aren't Dragoons. Pugilists might be able to steal because they aren't Monks. See what I mean? The classes won't be expected to have/not have certain previous job abilities because they don't carry said job's name, even if they might be the same in a gameplay sense. Why would you expect ____ job to do ____ otherwise?

Ahh kk I must of took what you were saying in the wrong way

[Meko]

Let's all dissect a game that doesn't even have a beta date. I know it's cool to complain about things that are known and suck but to complain about things that you don't even know about is pretty ridiculous. I'm going to hope the game is fun and interesting enough to play. The only thing that worries me so far is the whole 'no leveling' but I assume they'll make something to sink time into.

[Gulkeeva]

Well.. "somethings" lvling in that game, the interview posted over at
http://www.bluegartr.com/forum/82667...hi-tanaka.html even mentions a "level cap"... on something haha

[McGoonagle]

Let's all dissect a game that doesn't even have a beta date.

After all, is anybody sure it's "lancer," and not "poledancer?"

[bechyni]

After all, is anybody sure it's "lancer," and not "poledancer?"

We all can only hope they really meant "poledancer" lol