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  1. #261
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iremire View Post
    Meh still working on it, haven't finished sea on this account so have plenty of things to get. Just wanted some advice on things to get/work on. Left a few items in mog locker :/.

    Idle:
    http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/6871/idles.png
    I'm no whm. But wouldn't it be better to idle in not hp-gear? Things like Jelly ring, Orochi nodowa earth/terra's staff? I see you said you left some things in locker. So maybe you just forgot these. If so i'm sorry. I'm just curious.

    Edit: Also, Thanks for the ToDs for nms!

  2. #262
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    Quote Originally Posted by Omnipotent View Post
    Where the fuck has starr been. I miss his shenanigans.
    Hi

  3. #263
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitrous24 View Post
    I'm no whm. But wouldn't it be better to idle in not hp-gear? Things like Jelly ring, Orochi nodowa earth/terra's staff? I see you said you left some things in locker. So maybe you just forgot these. If so i'm sorry. I'm just curious.

    Edit: Also, Thanks for the ToDs for nms!
    Yes it is. Ire has such low HP >_> I idled in like 950-1k(don't remember exactly)hp and never dropped below 830-850 when I cured

    I'm also a firm believer that Serket ring is shit, imo the only use it has is resting -> buffs, get a trooper's ring gimpy!

    Not sure why you cure1-2-3ing in ToAU ring either, unless you had something else in locker. >.>

  4. #264
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iremire View Post
    gear
    There's a lot of gear in there I'd really like to have, but none the less I can give some suggestions regarding some items in a few your sets.

    Idle:
    As said before, Earth/Terra's staff, Jelly Ring, Cheviot/Umbra cape, Orochi Nodowa, replace the -HP for +HP equipment.
    And if you have them, Herald's gaiters.
    If you're really a perfectionist, get some Marduk's gloves too.
    What you show there probably is a (max) MP set, a lot of us consider that to be something completely different from an Idle set.

    Resting:
    Get at least a relaxing earring (+2), yes it is a bitch to farm but there's nothing better for HMP in that slot.
    There should some cheap AH options for the other ear, otherwise a relaxing earring unless you chose another earring for another job.
    Get a Mirror Tiara as headpiece (+3). (Available from AH, or an NM drop from one of the past NMs.)
    For a Backpiece get the Invigorating cape (+1) (Pretty cheap on AH or get one free with Assault points.)
    You can get Oracle's hands from the easier ZNMs.
    But it seems someone was already ahead of me regarding this.

    To get a few extra points on your Cure V set pair up a Templar mace with a Muse tariqah and replace that serket ring for another +MND ring.
    Also Healer's mitt's +1 give a greater return then Blessed +1, of course you have the haste on the Blessed, but I doubt you have to spam Cure V in most situations.

    And I am with Hyryu on the Serket ring being shit for anything but a max MP or yellow HP latent set.

    [edit]
    Also because I cannot read I overlooked that that char doesn't have sea yet.

  5. #265
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    which head is this for cure 5 and other stuff ? You should try to get the one from moogle extension (if you did not use it for other jobs) with mnd +6 / cure potency. It s a very nice piece, and save you to use the ugly af1+1 condomn hat !

  6. #266
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    Quote Originally Posted by dhearic View Post
    which head is this for cure 5 and other stuff ? You should try to get the one from moogle extension (if you did not use it for other jobs) with mnd +6 / cure potency. It s a very nice piece, and save you to use the ugly af1+1 condomn hat !
    Raven Beret at a guess.

  7. #267
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    thanks for all that i started collecting a new Resting set and fixed my idle set.

    I do need to get that moogle expansion for the head piece and am trying to get a muse tariqah when we start doing khim path again.

    thanks ill remember to get rid of the serket ring

  8. #268
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shirai View Post
    There's a lot of gear in there I'd really like to have, but none the less I can give some suggestions regarding some items in a few your sets.

    Idle:
    As said before, Earth/Terra's staff, Jelly Ring, Cheviot/Umbra cape, Orochi Nodowa, replace the -HP for +HP equipment.
    And if you have them, Herald's gaiters.
    If you're really a perfectionist, get some Marduk's gloves too.
    What you show there probably is a (max) MP set, a lot of us consider that to be something completely different from an Idle set.
    Don't know why WHM's overlook Flanged mace/Genbu shield combo. Been using it ever since I had it synthed.

    I mix +5 regen, -cant remember enmity, -13% PDT, and a whatever I can put Enmity/MP (works out well since most of the pieces have MP on it)

  9. #269
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ohemgee View Post
    Don't know why WHM's overlook Flanged mace/Genbu shield combo. Been using it ever since I had it synthed.
    Nice suggestion too.
    It's just the question if it's worth sacrificing 10% physical damage reduction for 1 tick of regen.

    This is my Oshit set by the way.
    Suggestions welcome.

  10. #270
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    Idle in Max regen/refresh, and have an oh-shit macro.

    You should know when you're going to draw hate by now (hopefully enmity tables and just a clear understanding how hate works should tell you when to swap whatever in)

    You can have your standard PDT (-30~%) in an easy gear swap and not worry about the total MP loss from losing out on say an errant cape or MP ring.

    For your set, I would put (if you have), Staff strap, Goliard head (HP/MP+, enmity-), Novia, Garden Bangles (HP+, regen+1), Trooper's, Errant cape, Buccaneer's or Penitent's rope (HP-20 isn't that bad, and I use a bucc. belt for nitpicking/use it for my COR), Goliard trews and yeah.

    Flanged Mace/Ixion/Orochi/Marduk~Garden Bangles make up A LOT of MP over time by not curing yourself.

    Quick note: Assuming capped merits and the said gear, you make up 660 HP with Regen III just by idling.




    ALL MELEES SHOULD HAVE AN IDLE SET. Annoys the hell out of me in Dynamis.

  11. #271

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    Why -enmity for idle? I agree with maxing out regen/refresh instead of phys-% because you can hit a macro but that argument holds more truth in it for -enmity and spells you cast in it.

    Max out regen/refresh, mp*, and then phys-%. I'd also say that mace/genbu vs terra's/staff strap is more of a personal preference.

    *just so you don't lose mp from switching from idle to cure/buff/whatever.

  12. #272
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    posing my NIN HNM -dmg set... currently getting dst feet+1 made for me (bad luck and lack of mats lol), and with the new addon legs, I'll be at -50%....



    @back: I'm aiming for shadow mantle ultimately, boxers is probably the next best thing for taking hits.

    my real question: back and ear2... do you think it's worth swapping these to bloodbead earring and marid belt+1 to keep my hp up in this set? all of my other sets have me 1400 hp or more without food.

    of course, any other suggestions (NOT reguarding the aesthetics of the build) are welcome, but I think I've got it more or less covered...(see what I did thar?)

  13. #273
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    It all depends on your gear and what you choose to macro in on every single spell since every single action you do is calculated in to generating enmity. For bullshit spells (I don't use spellcast on whm, too lazy to get that going again), I just use my idle set which has the -enmity built in to it. But you need to look at what kind of gear it is as well...WHM enmity gear also has MP on it (save troopers and novia and waist) The rest already are coupled.

    In the end its just nitpicking on how you play. I tend to be as lax of a WHM as possible, giving buffs on time and in time, and cures when PLD's absolutely need it. If I take damage, throw up my devotion set and have a PLD cure me back assuming he has the MP for it, if not, throw on regen and refresh and save the MP on yourself for Stoneskin, Regen, and what not.

  14. #274
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shirai View Post
    Nice suggestion too.
    It's just the question if it's worth sacrificing 10% physical damage reduction for 1 tick of regen.

    This is my Oshit set by the way.
    Suggestions welcome.
    Medicine Earring - Bahamut - FFXIAH.com (If you can find one)

  15. #275
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    The thing about those is while they're rarely on the AH, nobody camps the AH for them either. You've got a decent chance at picking one up within the month if you keep an eye on FFXIAH and/or check for one every time you're at the AH.

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    What's up Omni? This is our thread, let's argue about WAR vs DRG for non Greater Colibri merits where we got cut off before.

  17. #277
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    Figured I´d post my newest 75 DRG. Am pretty happy with it besides my Jump/High Jump sets. I really didn´t bother looking into optimizing it yet so any input is greatly appreciated.
    Input on other sets appreciated aswell of course.

    http://i33.tinypic.com/2u6o68l.jpg
    1. TP (Ethereal Earring, Fay Lance DMG+4 STR+3 DEX+3, Swift Belt)
    2. Drakesbane (Ethereal switched to Bushinomimi)
    3. Wheeling Thrust (Ethereal switched to Bushinomimi, Alkyoneus´s Bracelets)
    4. Jump/High Jump (Wyrm Belt)

  18. #278
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    Quote Originally Posted by Konda View Post
    posing my NIN HNM -dmg set... currently getting dst feet+1 made for me (bad luck and lack of mats lol), and with the new addon legs, I'll be at -50%....



    @back: I'm aiming for shadow mantle ultimately, boxers is probably the next best thing for taking hits.

    my real question: back and ear2... do you think it's worth swapping these to bloodbead earring and marid belt+1 to keep my hp up in this set? all of my other sets have me 1400 hp or more without food.

    of course, any other suggestions (NOT reguarding the aesthetics of the build) are welcome, but I think I've got it more or less covered...(see what I did thar?)
    Bloodbead Earring and Marid Belt would be good plans ya. If you're looking for HP pre-Shadow Mantle you could use Gigant Mantle too for a huge boost.

  19. #279
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starr View Post
    What's up Omni? This is our thread, let's argue about WAR vs DRG for non Greater Colibri merits where we got cut off before.
    People merit outside colibri and SMN burn?

  20. #280
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    SAM TP: Also use this set for PentaSpam(Except swap Fuma for Bounding)
    http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e3...acky/SAMtp.png

    SAM WS:
    http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e3...acky/SAMws.png

    NIN TP: Geared towards an Acc/Eva combo
    http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e3...acky/NINtp.png

    NIN WS: Replaced Eva with Att and anything else that would fit
    http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e3...acky/NINws.png

    Currently working on: Voyager Sallet, Hauby+1, Soboro, Hototogisu
    Anything else I am missing? I am sure there is

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