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  1. #381
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ripebear View Post
    Both those statements are wrong, the first been wrong because if i'm easily capping accuracy with Hagun, 95% or more of situations will benefit more from using Polearm, and with 256 skill rarely will 1% haste be better than 3% hit rate. (I'm constantly doing events in a HNMLS so rarely am I fighting too weak mobs)

    And when i'm using Hagun, i'm usually fighting something like Fafhogg, Dark Ixion, Einherjar bosses, Kirin, sea gods etc. And using Byrnie +1 and Cerb+1/Foragers will be better for those situations, since Gekko attack doubles, not automatically cap on anything. I would even go as far to say I eyeball better damage when using a mix of attack/STR, especially on DI. Also in said situations a BRD should just give Double March anyway (Unless a RNG party on DI), meaning attack will be even more meaningful on Gekko (Nevermind Yukkikaze and Kasha), because let's face it multi-hit WS are instant fail on HNM anyway.

    EDIT: Walahra turban is the ugliest most common piece of crap ever, I wouldn't even care if it made me parse better I hate it.
    There was a thread (might even be the last random fail thread) that went over the mobs that you use Byrnie +1 for Gekko. Pretty sure the list was small.

  2. #382
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mansin View Post
    There was a thread (might even be the last random fail thread) that went over the mobs that you use Byrnie +1 for Gekko. Pretty sure the list was small.
    pretty sure that was accounting for zerk though which makes huge difference on gekko.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ripebear View Post
    Both those statements are wrong, the first been wrong because if i'm easily capping accuracy with Hagun, 95% or more of situations will benefit more from using Polearm, and with 256 skill rarely will 1% haste be better than 3% hit rate.

    You are capping accuracy at huge costs : 1% haste on head, -15 attack on back piece, 5 str/7 attack on neck on so on. If you don't cap accuracy, you should be eating accuracy food. Your set has only 417 accuracy (going with 70 base dex). Pizza will always do better for you, it will be more attack, STR and accuracy. For merits, you are 10 accuracy overkill, so turban is fine for birds, with meat, and for MMJ it's unfortunately not good enaugh. Regrdless of what you fight :

    Robocop > turban
    PCC > Justice
    Torreador's > STR5
    Cuchulain's > Forager's (Cerb+1)
    (Not mentionning fuma since no usu body yet)

    While trading those items your accuracy is now 391
    Pizza+1 makes it 391*1.11 => 434 accuracy
    You also gained 5 str, and ~ 25 attack plus 55 from pizza



    If you use yellow curry bun with your setup (417 acc, + 85 attack, +5 STR), the new setup with pizza is

    { 17 more accuracy, same STR, -5 attack, 1% haste }






    Walahra turban is the ugliest most common piece of crap ever, I wouldn't even care if it made me parse better I hate it
    It's ok if you don't want to maximize your damage.

  4. #384
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ripebear View Post
    EDIT: Walahra turban is the ugliest most common piece of crap ever, I wouldn't even care if it made me parse better I hate it.
    Gimp/Confused/WTF Player XVI: Fashion Police, in your wardrobe, banning your gears.

  5. #385
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    hey guyz, .dat swapping is hard and I need to be punched in the face for not spending the 5 seconds it takes to do it

  6. #386
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    Quote Originally Posted by pchan View Post
    You are capping accuracy at huge costs : 1% haste on head, -15 attack on back piece, 5 str/7 attack on neck on so on. If you don't cap accuracy, you should be eating accuracy food. Your set has only 417 accuracy (going with 70 base dex). Pizza will always do better for you, it will be more attack, STR and accuracy. For merits, you are 10 accuracy overkill, so turban is fine for birds, with meat, and for MMJ it's unfortunately not good enaugh. Regrdless of what you fight :

    Robocop > turban
    PCC > Justice
    Torreador's > STR5
    Cuchulain's > Forager's (Cerb+1)
    (Not mentionning fuma since no usu body yet)

    While trading those items your accuracy is now 391
    Pizza+1 makes it 391*1.11 => 434 accuracy
    You also gained 5 str, and ~ 25 attack plus 55 from pizza



    If you use yellow curry bun with your setup (417 acc, + 85 attack, +5 STR), the new setup with pizza is

    { 17 more accuracy, same STR, -5 attack, 1% haste }








    It's ok if you don't want to maximize your damage.
    Are you seriously implying I should TP in a 5 STR ring? I dont need your advice on how to gear if so, I use Pizza with my polearm and meat with Hagun, and I dont cap acc on birds with that setup because I dont use fucking GK, lol. And were not talking about MNK here, are you actually SAM 75? Simple fact is i'm not gona use a 3h food at a 15 minute fafnir, or a 25 minute Ixion and these are the only situations where I need some accuracy, otherwise i'm using Polearm with Meat/Pizza depending.

    And I know to fucking DAT swap, lol. My point been aces helm is better than Turban for almost any situation for me. And also, dont even mention Sushi, please. Only time it's even viable is birds

  7. #387
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ripebear View Post
    are you actually SAM 75?

    lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyriu View Post
    lol
    Well he seems think attack and STR are good for TP on SAM.

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    And you seem to think less haste, attack and strenght are better than the trouble of changing your W. Turban dat and optimizing your gear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ripebear View Post
    Are you seriously implying I should TP in a 5 STR ring? I dont need your advice on how to gear if so, I use Pizza with my polearm and meat with Hagun, and I dont cap acc on birds with that setup because I dont use fucking GK, lol. And were not talking about MNK here, are you actually SAM 75? Simple fact is i'm not gona use a 3h food at a 15 minute fafnir, or a 25 minute Ixion and these are the only situations where I need some accuracy, otherwise i'm using Polearm with Meat/Pizza depending.

    And I know to fucking DAT swap, lol. My point been aces helm is better than Turban for almost any situation for me. And also, dont even mention Sushi, please. Only time it's even viable is birds
    So, trying to understand since the whole discussion has sorta jumped around:

    1) you have 417 acc with GK, but you eat meat on HNM (Kirin, Ixion, sky and sea gods, etc.)? or you use Pizza +1? (but, not for short fights like Ixion and Fafnir, or do you come /thf?)

    2) you have around 384 acc on polearm, but you use that 95% of the time when not on HNM, meaning you either only go to birds (and use it there), or you use it at birds /MMJ /dynamis? But you don't use sushi or pizza while using polearm?

    3) you would like to potentially upgrade to usu body, hachi legs, cerb +1, dusk +1, ancient torque, but you don't think it makes sense to use a 3 hour food like pizza, if the fight is only 15 minutes? Is that because of your current gear or is it something that you think should never be done?

    Hopefully, you can edit my text. I think some of the confusion is because there might be assumptions on how you use the food and gear that wasn't immediately apparent.

  11. #391
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    not everyone is as rich as you vo!!! gosh i mean to imply a near game breaking food that cost 3k would be worthwhile when your in 100m+ gear is just silly, come on i mean after eating 70,000 pizzas you nearly have enough for stage4!

    all joking aside i can understand not wanting to use a 3hr food for a 30 min event, however when it costs fing 3k its really not hurting the bank, and you can use it next event since idk many shells that only schedule events for 30mins day ;D

    idk why people even question it anymore...

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    The stupidity of refusing to use pizza because your event is less than three hours long aside, I don't understand why people post their equipment here and then lash out when people give them (correct)advice that they didn't want to hear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsuko_Asura View Post
    The stupidity of refusing to use pizza because your event is less than three hours long aside, I don't understand why people post their equipment here and then lash out when people give them (correct)advice that they didn't want to hear.
    Because they aren't looking for help, they are looking for people to say:

    "Nice gear dude!"

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    It's not about gil issues, I just dont see the point in using pizza on a 10-20 min fight, I agree on say doing sea gods/several JoL Pizza is appealing, but on a 10 minute fafnir it's pointless when my accuracy is pretty decent anyway. With polearm at birds I will use sushi or meat depending on buffs, anywhere else where accuracy is needed but Polearm stomps Hagun I use pizza. And you cant seriously defend the idea of TP in a STR+5 ring? If so your just as stupid.

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    If gil isn't the issue, what the hell is? You're not giving anyone a legitimate reason for not using the best food available to you.

    And there's nothing stupid about TPing in a STR ring when you don't need the accuracy.

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    if you aren't giving you're not doing your absolute best on all fights(einherjar, dynamis, hnms 10 mins-3 hours) you suck at this game. end of story.

    you should be maximizing everything that is smart to maximize so you can play to the best of your abilities at all times. this is what makes you a good player.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ohaigaiz View Post
    if you aren't giving you're not doing your absolute best on all fights(einherjar, dynamis, hnms 10 mins-3 hours) you suck at this game. end of story.

    you should be maximizing everything that is smart to maximize so you can play to the best of your abilities at all times. this is what makes you a good player.
    Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?

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    STR potions and iscaris wings are required at all LS events and LS merit parties when i roll up. if you're a mage you better have some fucking yagudo drinks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ripebear View Post
    Are you seriously implying I should TP in a 5 STR ring?
    I'm saying it's totally retarded to maximize you accuracy on gear so that you can eat meat when in reallity a 3k food will give you more attack and more accuracy. If you cap accuracy why use accuracy ring ?



    I dont need your advice on how to gear if so, I use Pizza with my polearm and meat with Hagun, and I dont cap acc on birds with that setup because I dont use fucking GK, lol. And were not talking about MNK here, are you actually SAM 75?
    What works for monk works for SAM, my monk can have as much accuracy as you with meat unless you hasso. Pizza is still better unless colibri precisely.





    My point been aces helm is better than Turban for almost any situation for me. And also, dont even mention Sushi, please. Only time it's even viable is birds
    Post your accuracy at DI and Fafnir. I smell Something retarded low. Unless you have minuet+Chaos roll and eat red curry, pizza will be more att & accuracy. You got torreador's, cuchulain's, black tathlum and don't have money to afford a 3k food ? seriously ? Ace's is better only if you don't cap with sushi pretty much.

    You gear just doesn't make sens. You stack accuracy, meaning you think it's the most relevant stat (even before haste since you drop 1% haste on head) but when It comes to food you use attack ..? I mean if you love that much attack, TP in justice torque, forager's, merman's & co and use meat...

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    I cant parse right now since i'm on Xbox but I will when I get my LCD back.

    And I ment MNK been different to SAM in regards to Attack been more beneficial during TP.

    And I do agree Pizza is nice for stuff like Einherjar, which kind of contradicts what I said before but it's because I use Polearm there until boss usually.

    Also, I said before it's not gil that stops me buying pizza for every event, I usually never go below 300k, and even then I just solo on rdm for some gil. Fact is I use pizza a lot, with Polearm, just not so much with GK.

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