Post Pictures of Your Gear IX: The Starr and Omnipotent love thread

[Vodou]

True, but isn't it hard to truely cap accuracy on MNK, even with Pizza + Focus? I can't remember. Well, assuming not birds granted you wouldn't use pizza on birds anyway, but still.

Mnks can get to somewhere around 485-490 acc with full usu using focus and pizza+1.

[PeaceNLove]

Since this just came up, what other torques are worth using for ws, over a gorget? or is Faith Torque one of the very few - that can be used for a ws set, based on the ws properties of Asuran?

Love torque for Penta Thrust and Justice Torque for Tachi: Rana I think are the only other times I use torques over gorgets. Love because it's more accuracy than gorget plus it gives attack and modifiers. Justice because it's STR mod, 11 attack, more base damage from fSTR, and I can spare the accuracy thanks to MKD helm.

I'd favor torques when you don't need the additional 3-4 accuracy, on multihit non-crit WS where attack matters a good deal, and where the combined fTP is so high that adding 0.1 doesn't have a huge impact. E.g. Asuran is 1.0 fTP for the first hit and assumed 1.0 fTP for all additional hits, totalling 8.0 fTP. Going from 8.0 to 8.1 with gorget is only a 1.25% damage increase.

[xIndustrialxAngelx]

Ah I see, thanks so much for the input! So if you're using Justice for Rana, because you said of the STR mod, and even the attack as well, wouldn't it be useful for the higher STR modded ws? (Such as Y,G,K). I just recent'y got Justice torque, so I'm trying to use it at it's max, and soon I will have Love as well.

[PeaceNLove]

No, gorget is better for Y/G/K. Using Hagun for this example: gorget boosts a 100TP Hagun Y/G/K from 1.875 to 1.975 fTP, a 5.33% increase. For +5 STR to give that kind of boost, you'd need ~100 base damage on WS (100 to 105 is a 5% increase). Now Hagun is already 75 damage, and 1 STR is essentially 1 base damage for Y/G/K with a natural 75% STR mod and 25% fSTR mod. So that means prior to the torque, you'd have to be WSing in 25 STR total to give a damage boost comparable to a gorget. So that's pretty much impossible since your base STR is already much higher than 25.

In an ideal situation, with food/gear/hasso/etc you're at around 225 base damage on WS. A +5 increase here is only a 2.22% damage increase, while the gorget remains at +5.33%. That STR effectively becomes less and less potent as your total STR increases. Also, attack is generally neglected with Gekko due to its massive cRatio bonus. It will play a role in some situations but I've no idea how to assess that.

[Tharen]

Just got Koshi-ate in dyna tonight. Besides feet, is there anything else that can be upgraded? Maybe kabuto > Hissho hachimaki?

Here's my set so far: http://www.ffxiah.com/item_sets.php?id=34028

[PeaceNLove]

Still rocking those Hachi feet after all this time? =[

MKD helm with STR+4, WS dmg +2%, WS acc +15 is the current best Penta headpiece and would be a substantial upgrade, allowing you to pump more attack or mods in some slots - like Warwolf belt and/or Forager's Mantle. Maybe Hollow/Minuet earring and Black Tathlum ofc.

[TheMysteriousX]

Could you swap the Pole Grip for a Rose Strap, then dump the Hachiman feet for Saotome Sune-Ate/Something Else That Will Cause Moar Hurt?

Nice set though, wish mine had that many white boxes.

[Tharen]

Still rocking those Hachi feet after all this time? =[

MKD helm with STR+4, WS dmg +2%, WS acc +15 is the current best Penta headpiece and would be a substantial upgrade, allowing you to pump more attack or mods in some slots - like Warwolf belt and/or Forager's Mantle. Maybe Hollow/Minuet earring and Black Tathlum ofc.

I finally got with an awesome/steady salvage group. I'm on it!

[xIndustrialxAngelx]

No, gorget is better for Y/G/K. Using Hagun for this example: gorget boosts a 100TP Hagun Y/G/K from 1.875 to 1.975 fTP, a 5.33% increase. For +5 STR to give that kind of boost, you'd need ~100 base damage on WS (100 to 105 is a 5% increase). Now Hagun is already 75 damage, and 1 STR is essentially 1 base damage for Y/G/K with a natural 75% STR mod and 25% fSTR mod. So that means prior to the torque, you'd have to be WSing in 25 STR total to give a damage boost comparable to a gorget. So that's pretty much impossible since your base STR is already much higher than 25.

In an ideal situation, with food/gear/hasso/etc you're at around 225 base damage on WS. A +5 increase here is only a 2.22% damage increase, while the gorget remains at +5.33%. That STR effectively becomes less and less potent as your total STR increases. Also, attack is generally neglected with Gekko due to its massive cRatio bonus. It will play a role in some situations but I've no idea how to assess that.

Ah awesome, I figured so - I just wanted to ask to be sure! Thanks so much!

[Andradi]

No, gorget is better for Y/G/K. Using Hagun for this example: gorget boosts a 100TP Hagun Y/G/K from 1.875 to 1.975 fTP, a 5.33% increase. For +5 STR to give that kind of boost, you'd need ~100 base damage on WS (100 to 105 is a 5% increase). Now Hagun is already 75 damage, and 1 STR is essentially 1 base damage for Y/G/K with a natural 75% STR mod and 25% fSTR mod. So that means prior to the torque, you'd have to be WSing in 25 STR total to give a damage boost comparable to a gorget. So that's pretty much impossible since your base STR is already much higher than 25.

In an ideal situation, with food/gear/hasso/etc you're at around 225 base damage on WS. A +5 increase here is only a 2.22% damage increase, while the gorget remains at +5.33%. That STR effectively becomes less and less potent as your total STR increases. Also, attack is generally neglected with Gekko due to its massive cRatio bonus. It will play a role in some situations but I've no idea how to assess that.

Does that mean Torque for guillotine is also likely better?

[Arximiro]

I'd like the green light to use A torque for RR but I doubt it's going to happen. I honestly don't know how to do the math for multi-hit wses with gorgets. This statement for the person asking about Guillotine btw. I thought I'd jump on board with you though since I'm tired of using gorgets myself.

[pex]

ya im tired of using the best item for the situation as well, gonna start using haub+1 instead of adaberk.

[Demosthenes11]

ya im tired of using the best item for the situation as well, gonna start using haub+1 instead of adaberk.

i don't know you but I like you

[Neoex]

I'd like the green light to use A torque for RR but I doubt it's going to happen. I honestly don't know how to do the math for multi-hit wses with gorgets. This statement for the person asking about Guillotine btw. I thought I'd jump on board with you though since I'm tired of using gorgets myself.

At least the Novia is gone from being to beastly

[Zubuis]

Just got Koshi-ate in dyna tonight. Besides feet, is there anything else that can be upgraded? Maybe kabuto > Hissho hachimaki?

Here's my set so far: http://www.ffxiah.com/item_sets.php?id=34028

Yeah nice looking set for sure. Obviously the feet would be an upgrade. Beyond that I'm not really sure. I really like Usukane Haramaki for penta but the stats not really much different than a hauby+1. Not sure really if 2 dex, 2 str, 6 store tp better than the 12 attack. Either way its a moot difference and probably not worth the price tag. Gonna have to go head to head in a meripo one day

[Virg]

ya im tired of using the best item for the situation as well, gonna start using haub+1 instead of adaberk.

Pex! Man you seriously need to get the fuck back to us. I´m pretty fucking sick of "0 Sword merits" if you know what I mean.

[Callisto]

I'd like the green light to use A torque for RR but I doubt it's going to happen. I honestly don't know how to do the math for multi-hit wses with gorgets. This statement for the person asking about Guillotine btw. I thought I'd jump on board with you though since I'm tired of using gorgets myself.

If you're in a position to not use Aqua/Thunder for RR you should probably use Kubira Beads anyways.

[Arximiro]

ya im tired of using the best item for the situation as well, gonna start using haub+1 instead of adaberk.

I was referring to inventory space, hurrr.

[Thorny]

I was referring to inventory space, hurrr.

When you can name 70 things that you need in your inventory for a melee job, you can complain about space. Alternatively, name a reason you need more than 10 free spaces.

[Callisto]

Colibri Beaks, suck it