Obama a Hero.

[Stiker]

Politics of hate, lol. Does that ever get old?

Well I mean, it isn't like we don't get enough ammo: How to Win the Nobel Peace Prize In 12 Days - FOXNews.com

Editor's Note: Although President Obama had only been in office for 12 days before the nominations for this year's Nobel Peace prize closed the entire process actually takes a full year. According to the official Nobel Prize Web site invitation letters are sent out in September. Every year, the Norwegian Nobel Committee sends out thousands of letters inviting a qualified and select number of people to submit their nominations for the Nobel Peace Prize. The deadline to submit nominations is February 1. -- Two hundred five names were submitted for the 2009 Nobel Peace Prize, 33 of which are organizations. A short list of nominees is prepared in February and March. The short list is subject to adviser review from March until August. At the beginning of October, the Nobel Committee chooses the Nobel Peace Prize Laureates through a majority vote. The decision is final and without appeal. The names of the Nobel Peace Prize Laureates are then announced."

Barack Obama won the Nobel Peace Prize this morning. Over the last decade the only requirement to win the prize was that the nominee had to be critical of George W. Bush (see Al Gore, Mohamed El Baradei and Jimmy Carter).
President Obama has broken new ground here. Nominations for potential winners of the 2009 Nobel Peace Prize ended on February 1. The president took office only 12 days earlier on January 20.


Let’s take a look at the president’s first 12 days in the White House according to his public schedule to see what he did to deserve a Nobel Peace Prize:


January 20: Sworn in as president. Went to a parade. Partied.


January 21: Asked bureaucrats to re-write guidelines for information requests. Held an “open house” party at the White House.


January 22: Signed Executive Orders: Executive Branch workers to take ethics pledge; re-affirmed Army Field Manual techniques for interrogations; expressed desire to close Gitmo (how’s that working out?)


January 23: Ordered the release of federal funding to pay for abortions in foreign countries. Lunch with Joe Biden; met with Tim Geithner.


January 24: Budget meeting with economic team.


January 25: Skipped church.


January 26: Gave speech about jobs and energy. Met with Hillary Clinton. Attended Geithner's swearing in ceremony.


January 27: Met with Republicans. Spoke at a clock tower in Ohio.


January 28: Economic meetings in the morning, met with Defense secretary in the afternoon.


January 29: Signed Ledbetter Bill overturning Supreme Court decision on lawsuits over wages. Party in the State Room. Met with Biden.


January 30: Met economic advisers. Gave speech on Middle Class Working Families Task Force. Met with senior enlisted military officials.


January 31: Took the day off.


February 1: Skipped church. Threw a Super Bowl party.


So there you have it. The short path to the Nobel Peace Prize: Party, go to meetings, skip church, release federal funding to pay for abortions in foreign countries, party some more.


Good grief.

Spur of the moment angered article that even FOX NEWS THEMSELVES saw fit to add in an editorial note? Yeah, ok.

Also I find it funny the author felt the need to place skip church in there twice. What purpose does that serve? It shouldn't matter a damn bit in any Peace Prize discussion, but why does he say it? Simple: throw the fundamental Christians into a rage.

Same thing with making sure he mentions funding for abortions. Make sure you hit the divisive topic to ensure people get riled up.

Not politics of hate at all, we are clearly staying objective here.

[Dimmauk]

I'd actually seriously listen to people crying about this if they could supply some people who actually deserved it this year...

Otherwise, the prize is being used as a potential catalyst for future change. I really don't see what all this bitching is about. Obama himself even said he wasn't expecting it and was shocked with the announcement.

Obama lied! He knew he was going to win, that is why he didnt send more troops cause he wanted to win the Peace prize.

[Xno Kappa]

You guys in college right now are lucky. I wish I had these type of issues to talk about back in my day two years ago.

[Elvis]

Politics of hate, lol. Does that ever get old?

On a related note (kinda? maybe? ok I just don't wana make another thread to plug this book), there's an interesting take on the Christian Right, by Max Blumenthal. He characterizes the movement as 'politics' of sadomasochism and of 'personal crisis' (exploited by the gatekeepers).

His book on the subject is called Republican Gomorrah: Inside The Movement That Shattered The Party.

Anyways, this is a derail kinda, but for anyone interested in the Christian Right and are...Christian, this may interest you (although you don't need to be Christian to find it interesting):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cndYA7tAV6k

I guess quickly, anyone recognize these names?

R. J. Rushdoony
Francis Schaeffer
James Dobson

I think we all have a vague conception of the Christian Right, but it's as complex as any other political movement. I didn't know who those people above were until I looked into Blumenthal's work. (I had heard of Dobson tho)

Oh and WTF:


GOP votes against measure to help victims of rape at govt. contractors

Political commentators are accusing Senate Republicans of hypocrisy -- and even outright support of rape -- after thirty of them voted against a measure to de-fund military contractors who prevent rape victims from seeking justice.

Sen. Al Franken (D-MN) introduced an amendment to a defense appropriations bill that would prevent the federal government from funding contractors whose employee contracts prevent workers from pursuing allegations of rape against co-workers.

The measure passed the Senate by a vote of 68 to 30, with all 30 'no' votes being cast by Republicans. Notably, 10 Senate Republicans voted for the measure, including all four female Republican senators.

Franken was inspired to push the amendment by the story of Jamie Leigh Jones, who was an employee of KBR -- at the time a subsidiary of Halliburton -- working in Baghdad's Green Zone when she was allegedly gang-raped by other KBR workers.

[Absolutely Virtue]

Politics of hate, lol. Does that ever get old?

Trust me, it gets very, very fucking old.

[Therin]

ahahah oh wow, einstein is rolling over in his grave.

This.

[Absolutely Virtue]

Therin, you read up to the 6th post. You've now done more research on the process than all the other conservatives in the thread.

But now do yourself a favor and read the rest. You might learn something.

[Seraph]

There can be only One!


...Nobel Prize.

[Talint]

This thread is absolutely amazing.

[Xno Kappa]

I vanquished the entire Vietcong army.

[Absolutely Virtue]

I miss you too dood, and I'm an asshole for not nominating your for the prize based on potential to do good.

[Vajra]

To all you guys saying that the Nobel Prize is worth nothing, I suggest you read up on Martin Luther King Jr. Ignorance can only get you so far, Barack getting this award isn't the end of the world. I bet you that he's going to donate the money to a more deserving recipient, and just keep the award alone.

It's not a polite thing to reject an award, but in my opinion donating the money is a very honorable thing to do. He's not rich, but he's gotten money from endorsements, his book sales, and he'll get payed 1.6 mil-3.2 mil (depending on re-election) in the next 8 years total. His spur-of-the-moment speech was brilliant, thank goodness Barack has brilliant speech writers, very excellent acceptance speech.

[zoobernut]

Huckabee warns Republicans on Nobel reaction
Posted: October 9th, 2009 04:16 PM ET

From CNN Ticker Producer Alexander Mooney
Mike Huckabee is advising his fellow Republicans to temper their criticism of President Barack Obama's Nobel Peace Prize award.
Mike Huckabee is advising his fellow Republicans to temper their criticism of President Barack Obama's Nobel Peace Prize award.

(CNN) – Mike Huckabee is advising his fellow Republicans to temper their criticism of President Barack Obama's Nobel Peace Prize award.

In a posting on his blog, the former GOP presidential candidate writes that members of his party must be careful their comments don't sound like "right-wing whining."

"There will be an outcry from those on the right who will say that Obama's nomination, made two weeks into his presidency, is impossible to justify, but I think such an outcry will sound like right-wing whining," Huckabee wrote. "The better response is simply to allow those on the left to explain what he did in his first two weeks as President that merited such recognition."

Interesting.

[Holman]

This is not mine, but I read this on a blog.....Very good


What did Ronald Reagan do exactly, William? All I can see is that he ramped up defense spending while cutting spending domestically and cutting taxes at the same time giving us absolutely no means of keeping up with the debt ditch we were digging ourselves. The Soviet Union due to their poor economic system had already been struggling to keep up with the United States in terms of the arms race and ultimately would've collapsed whether Reagan had invested that much money or not. Furthermore, Gorbachev himself had a lot more to do with putting an end to the cold war conflict than Ronald Reagan did so let's move away from that subject.

Onto Clinton, the man that after the U.S.S. Cole bombing had created plans to move into Afghanistan to eliminate the Taliban and kill bin Laden. One problem that he ran into, though: in order to follow through with those plans we needed basing rights in Uzbekistan. We didn't get those until after 9/11, so rest assured he at least put something on the books and he did try multiple times to assassinate bin Laden. He was actually closer than anybody else at doing it. Ironic, too, that you would call Bush a better Commander in Chief when we had bin Laden pinned up on the border into Pakistan and instead of giving the go ahead for our troops to move forward and eliminate him he opted instead to allow the Pakistanis to do so. Naturally he escaped without an issue after that one. (Nice job, W.)

Let's not forget the whole debacle in Iraq where we've yet to find any evidence of the so called WMDs that Saddam had at the ready to destroy the United States. =/

The men that you call great leaders put us into further jeopardy by crippling the backbone of our nation's strength: our economy. Either way, I have no further desire to continue this discussion. I've made all the basic points that I can make that under the Reagan administration everything that made this country great was destroyed; and, despite the best efforts of many people to piece together legislation that would allow our nation to become what it was once again when my grandfather was still a working man, we've yet to even see a small shred of progress. I just don't understand how Republicans can feel that their foreign and domestic policies are what's best for our nation when history clearly indicates that under their tenure our manufacturing base was demolished, the wealth disparity between the rich and poor grew astronomically, that wages became incapable of keeping up with inflation, etc.

As for the gentleman that made the comments concerning my debate with Peter and how they were illogical. Pardon me, but I have a history with that man. I've provided mounds of statistical evidence contrasting the policies of liberals and conservatives to him in the past and the clear cut evidence is always this: under the liberal idea of domestic policy the standard of living for the people in this country has always been better. I also don't appreciate his comments of inferring that I'm somehow a lazy leech. I work and go to school full time, and fortunately I've had help from my family. Otherwise I'd be living in a crappy one bedroom apartment living off Top Ramen because it's impossible to have a decent standard of living on a basic hourly pay in a retail job. Not to mention the ridiculous amount of debt I would be in and would probably have to continue borrowing more to pay my bills. Apparently that's the conservative idea of the American Dream, though.

[Stiker]

Interesting.

I'm actually rather impressed to be honest.

[zoobernut]

I'm actually rather impressed to be honest.

I was too. Though he could have left off the last little part. I think it was very wise words for the GOP.

[Sirrus_Asura]

He shouldn't get a Nobel prize till we see his birth certificate. CHYEA

[Saga]

I think it was very wise words for the GOP.

Which is exactly why no one is listening to them.


ZING

[Rhinox]

I'm actually rather impressed to be honest.

John McCain took it one step further. Look up his reaction

[Vajra]

Just like I said earlier on this page:

Spokesman: Obama To Donate Peace Prize Money

Nobel Committee Shocks World By Awarding Obama's 'Extraordinary' Diplomacy Less Than 1 Year Into 1st Term

OSLO, Norway (CBS News) ―

President Barack Obama will donate the $1.4 million cash award that comes with the Nobel Peace Prize to charity. White House spokesman Robert Gibbs says it's likely that more than one charity will share the windfall.

Gibbs said the president has yet to decide which charities will benefit from the award, announced early Friday morning.

Obama won the 2009 Nobel Peace Prize on Friday for "his extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples," the Norwegian Nobel Committee said, citing his outreach to the Muslim world and attempts to curb nuclear proliferation.

The committee said Mr. Obama's efforts to promote a "global response to global challenges" cemented their decision.

"I am both surprised and deeply humbled," Obama said in the Rose Garden.

"To be honest, I do not feel that I deserve to be in the company of so many of the transformative figures that have been honored by this prize," said Obama.

Obama said daunting challenges confront the world, citing nuclear proliferation, climate change and the mideast peace process.

"Some of the work confronting us may not be completed during my presidency," Obama said.

"This award must be shared with everyone who strives for justice and dignity," he added.

CBS News White House correspondent Peter Maer reports that White House press secretary Robert Gibbs emailed a one-word reaction to the news Friday morning: "Wow."

The White House was clearly just as shocked by the announcment as the reporters gathered in Oslo, reports Maer.

Spoiler: show

It was Gibbs who eventually told Mr. Obama he had won the prestigious Prize - about 45 minutes after the announcement at 6 a.m. EDT, reports CBS News senior White House correspondent Bill Plante.

The committee praised Mr. Obama's effort to create a "new international climate" of diplomacy.

CBS News White House correspondent Mark Knoller reports that Mr. Obama is only the third U.S. President to win the Nobel Peace Prize while still in office. Theodore Roosevelt won it in 1906 and Woodrow Wilson in 1919.

Former President Jimmy Carter also won the prize in 2002, adds Knoller, but that was more than two decades after he left office.

Defending their surprising decision, the committee chairman said they sought not just to reward the winner of the Nobel Peace Prize, but to "enhance" the recipient's actions - to promote peace.

"We do hope that this can contribute a little bit to enhance what he is trying to do."

"It is a clear statement to the world that we want to advocate and promote," the efforts undertaken by Mr. Obama.

"Only very rarely has a person to the same extent as Obama captured the world's attention and given its people hope for a better future," Thorbjoern Jagland, chairman of the Nobel Committee said. "In the past year Obama has been a key person for important initiatives in the U.N. for nuclear disarmament and to set a completely new agenda for the Muslim world and East-West relations."

He added that the committee endorsed "Obama's appeal that 'Now is the time for all of us to take our share of responsibility for a global response to global challenges."'

Mr. Obama's name had been mentioned in speculation before the award but many Nobel watchers believed it was too early to award the president.

"The Prize has to be seen as a political statement by the Nobel committee - meant to hail the change in U.S. policy represented by President Obama's approach to foreign policy as opposed to that of his predecessor George W. Bush," says Knoller, who notes that Mr. Obama took office less than 10 days before the Feb. 1 deadline for Nobel Prize nominations.

"This is a Prize meant as an expression of hope that President Obama's speeches and policy statements will translate into actual accomplishments," adds Knoller. "The Prize is honoring an expression of aspirations for peace, rather the achievement of it."
That decision by the Nobel Committee, however, is a caluclated risk. Knoller says the members may be discredited for awarding the Prize for aspirations, rather than accomplishments.

"I don't think anybody expected this," CBS News chief Washington correspondent and "Face the Nation" host Bob Schieffer said on Friday's "Early Show". In his mind, the prize decision was more of a commentary on the previous administration than the current U.S. President.

"It's almost as if they're saying, 'We're giving you this prize for winning the election,'" said Schieffer.

The committee said it attached special importance to Mr. Obama's vision of and work for a world without nuclear weapons.

"Obama has as president created a new climate in international politics. Multilateral diplomacy has regained a central position, with emphasis on the role that the United Nations and other international institutions can play."

In his 1895 will, Alfred Nobel stipulated that the peace prize should go "to the person who shall have done the most or the best work for fraternity between the nations and the abolition or reduction of standing armies and the formation and spreading of peace congresses."

Unlike the other Nobel Prizes, which are awarded by Swedish institutions, he said the peace prize should be given out by a five-member committee elected by the Norwegian Parliament. Sweden and Norway were united under the same crown at the time of Nobel's death.

The committee has taken a wide interpretation of Nobel's guidelines, expanding the prize beyond peace mediation to include efforts to combat poverty, disease and climate change.

GOP Response:

How dare he win the Nobel Peace Prize and donate his winnings to charity, what a dirty Ni@#er Kenyan socialist he is!

Extra CNN Source:

Obama wins unique...plans to donate 1.4 million dollars to charity

Obama will donate the roughly $1.4 million award to charity, a White House spokesman said Friday.

Keep the CUE_CUE coming, these tears are fantastically minty fresh .