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  1. #2061
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    Positioning would be me on thief auto-following him (he subs thief), he engages a mob, steps back so I would be slightly in front of him and he trick attacks onto me.

    If all TH needs to do is be on the hate list, TA'ing a thief should work, right?

    I think the ability to have TH4 for non-thieves has obvious benefits, but it would basically be making use of my character if I'm asleep/working.

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    Quote Originally Posted by requim View Post
    Positioning would be me on thief auto-following him (he subs thief), he engages a mob, steps back so I would be slightly in front of him and he trick attacks onto me.

    If all TH needs to do is be on the hate list, TA'ing a thief should work, right?
    You lost me, good luck with this.

  3. #2063
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    It's not a hard concept to trick attack a thief.

    Anyone who actually understands how to trick attack someone know whether or not it would work?

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    If you have trick attack, you have TH of some sort anyway.. really not gonna be many practical applications for this and I highly doubt it's been tested before. Go test it yourself and let us know.

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    it should work as the TA would put him on the hate list.

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    Whats the average profit from sponsoring a dynamis run?

    Like a shout group ect..

  7. #2067
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    Depends on numbers/zone/drops obviously, usually 2-5m in my experiences, but that's generally running with 12-15.

  8. #2068
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    Quote Originally Posted by Callisto View Post
    Depends on numbers/zone/drops obviously, usually 2-5m in my experiences, but that's generally running with 12-15.
    thats like 400coins with that little people D: wish my dyna ls had your drop rates, we -never- get 100's

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    12-15 isn't that little, it's enough to full clear bastok or sandy including repops easily

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    That's what's called being stuck in the days of 40 person Dynamis and thinking you're hot shit.‮

  11. #2071
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    For Y/G/K, Justice or gorget
    And for penta, Love or gorget.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sin Harvest View Post
    For Y/G/K, Justice or gorget
    And for penta, Love or gorget.
    Gorget, Gorget.

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    pretty sure love > gorget for penta

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    I doubt it:
    - Roughly the same ACC
    - Penta has 1fTP if I remember correctly

    Roughly 10% fTP increase v 5DEX for a 25% DEX mod. Someone else can vouch for this though.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dramafinderftw View Post
    Whats the average profit from sponsoring a dynamis run?

    Like a shout group ect..
    Quote Originally Posted by Thorny View Post
    12-15 isn't that little, it's enough to full clear bastok or sandy including repops easily
    Not if it's anything like Diaboro's pick up runs.

  15. #2075
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    I think Love torque only wins for some THF WS and dDEX Drakesbane builds.

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    The fTP increase from gorgets only applies to the first hit as far as testing has shown, on Penta that effectively makes it a 2% increase to fTP rather than 10% if I'm not wrong. I believe Love works out to slightly more acc, and the DEX mod + attack probably works out to more than the 2% fTP increase, though I'm kinda too buzzed/dumb to math that out myself.

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    Does Killer Instinct give the same attack bonuses that circles do with the right pet out?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Callisto View Post
    The fTP increase from gorgets only applies to the first hit as far as testing has shown, on Penta that effectively makes it a 2% increase to fTP rather than 10% if I'm not wrong. I believe Love works out to slightly more acc, and the DEX mod + attack probably works out to more than the 2% fTP increase, though I'm kinda too buzzed/dumb to math that out myself.
    depends on current skill and dex for love to give 11 acc, which is ideal, and worst it would be 9, though will most commonly be 10 for polearm users, and dex mod is shit less than gorget's 2% for sure, and attack unless you're attack is on the low end isn't gonna do enough to make up for difference.

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    Question on PLD macro sets in general. Anyone have some good ones compiled on FFXIah?

    I am most interested what people idle in (non-atonement, atonement spam obviously haste and acc...).

  20. #2080
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfknight View Post
    depends on current skill and dex for love to give 11 acc, which is ideal, and worst it would be 9, though will most commonly be 10 for polearm users, and dex mod is shit less than gorget's 2% for sure, and attack unless you're attack is on the low end isn't gonna do enough to make up for difference.
    5*.2*.83=.83 base damage and 7 attack.

    .1 fTP is .1/5=2% as said

    7 attack vs a lvl 82 mob at 600attk is roughly ~8.5/600 = 1.4% increase
    .83 base damage to be .6% is at ~138 base damage.

    For a sam, it's very impractical that you'll be >600 attack and >138 D.

    Love is almost always better than Gorget for Penta, though not by a lot, and not if Love is 9 acc AND you aren't acc capped. Personally, I'm past acc cap by a few with nothing I can realistically drop.

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