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  1. #2461
    You just got served THE CALLISTO SPECIAL
    SASSAGE KING OF DA WORLD
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    It depends on the mob/strength of that particular bind land. Higher level NMs typically break when any damage is done, i.e. if I bind Zipacna even a 1 damage Dia will break it, however I've routinely stuck it on Groundskeepers who stayed bound through 1k+ damage. I think part of that is more level-difference adjusted than anything else but I don't really have testing to back that up.

  2. #2462
    I'm more gentle than I look.
    Mr. Feathers AKA Mr. Striations
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    Corsair guns at 75? Which are viable ect

  3. #2463
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    MArtial gun if WSing

    Corsair's gun/+1 if only using quick draw

    If you can't find or afford a martial gun, coffinmaker is the next best thing followed by shark gun.

  4. #2464
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    Quote Originally Posted by Callisto View Post
    It depends on the mob/strength of that particular bind land. Higher level NMs typically break when any damage is done, i.e. if I bind Zipacna even a 1 damage Dia will break it
    I remember reading somewhere before that dia and bio always break bind.

  5. #2465
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    Nah, that's only really on higher-end stuff that's high enough, I've had Bind last through casting Bio on Groundskeepers/Hpemde tons of times.

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    Ah, oki. I don't solo on rdm much, so don't use bind much, so couldn't have said for sure. Dunno why that was in my head, then. Yay for remembering wrong info?

  7. #2467
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    I recently got a Temperance Axe for my BST. According to wiki and friends ingame, Jailer weapon proc is calculated independently of Double Attack. Assuming this is the case, and I go Maneater/Temp as /NIN with Brutal/Suppa, what's the distribution curve for attacks per round, and what is the mean TP per round? How is this calculated and under what conditions could it be improved?

    Current build is 17% Haste. I have the option of ASA pants with Haste+3 DA+2, and usually use ACP body with Acc+10 Pet Acc+10 but also have an Askar Korazin (DA+2) gathering dust in MH. Still working on Haidate, I don't have those yet.

    Thanks. I did try working this out independently but not sure my results are even close to being correct.

    [edit - moved from What's Better - hit the wrong thread button. Apologies]

  8. #2468
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    DA is 5% on brutal, 50% on temp
    this means 50% of the time, temp won't proc..

    50% Temp Doesn't Proc:
    0.25% brutal procs on both - 4 hits (0.125% overall)
    4.75% brutal procs on only maneater - 3 hits (2.375% overall)
    4.75% brutal procs on only temperance - 3 hits (2.375% overall)
    90.25% brutal doesn't proc - 2 hits (45.125% overall)

    50% temp DOES proc
    0.25% brutal procs on both - 5 hits (0.125% overall)
    4.75% brutal procs on only maneater - 4 hits (2.375% overall)
    4.75% brutal procs on only temperance - 4 hits (2.375% overall)
    90.25% brutal doesn't proc - 3 hits (45.125% overall)

    For an overall distribution of:
    2 hits: 45.125%
    3 hits: 49.875%
    4 hits: 4.875%
    5 hits: 0.125%

    You'll gain 5.9 tp per hit, to get average tp per round you do:

    5.9 * 2 * .45125 = 5.32475
    5.9 * 3 * .49875 = 8.827875
    5.9 * 4 * .04875 = 1.1505
    5.9 * 5 * .00125 = .036875
    Add up, average of 15.34 tp per round before accuracy. Multiply this by your accuracy to get a true average tp per round.

    Stacking DA is worthless, which is what I assume you're talking about.. I hope you didn't already waste your ASA augment on that. If not, I would highly recommend using Acc+7 Haste+3. The reasoning behind this is that double attack has constant returns in relation to nothing, decreasing returns in relation to itself, and does not compound with jailer DA, just doesn't interfere.

  9. #2469
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thorny View Post
    Stacking DA is worthless, which is what I assume you're talking about.. I hope you didn't already waste your ASA augment on that. If not, I would highly recommend using Acc+7 Haste+3. The reasoning behind this is that double attack has constant returns in relation to nothing, decreasing returns in relation to itself, and does not compound with jailer DA, just doesn't interfere.
    Yes, constant returns vs compounded, but the relative benefits of Acc vs DA on BST might not be quite the same as for other jobs. Since BST generally solo, most mobs are DC-T and the Acc cap beckons, especially with food. Hmm, pet Acc is low though... maybe I'll need to look at it a little more closely. And the pants can be requested so could theoretically try a few options.

    Anyhow, thanks for the math.

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    What is the phone number for Playonline support? I looked all over the site but couldn't find it.

    Edit: Found it.

  11. #2471
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    I'm having a hard time pushing myself, what exactly am i missing in stats by stopping dnc at 35 instead of 37? >.>

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caerloc View Post
    I'm having a hard time pushing myself, what exactly am i missing in stats by stopping dnc at 35 instead of 37? >.>
    A subjob level 2 higher than it was and whatever this says in stats.

    If it kills you that bad, just use EXP scrolls and Campaign Ops to finish it... really not that bad though if you grind it out with a quick EXP party or FoV with EXP band.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caerloc View Post
    I'm having a hard time pushing myself, what exactly am i missing in stats by stopping dnc at 35 instead of 37? >.>
    Going by the FFXI Stat Calc page looks like about 1-2 of each stat (STR DEX etc) which, for anytime you're using /DNC isn't going to make or break you obviously.

    I'd do it like he said, campaign ops, spare EXP scrolls, maybe take it to some EXP-warranting BCNM/missions, whatever you can use it for.

    Wait - my mistake, I'm a troll - STOP BEING GIMP FGT

  14. #2474
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    If you're super lazy, just have friends that do Cape FOV let you party with them, can get like 1500xp per and you would need less than 12.7k to go from 35 to 37.

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    Quote Originally Posted by requim View Post
    If you're super lazy, just have friends that do Cape FOV let you party with them, can get like 1500xp per and you would need less than 12.7k to go from 35 to 37.
    Oh yeah, true, forgot about that, FoV ftw

  16. #2476
    I'm more gentle than I look.
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    Quote Originally Posted by requim View Post
    If you're super lazy, just have friends that do Cape FOV let you party with them, can get like 1500xp per and you would need less than 12.7k to go from 35 to 37.
    Lol that's 1.5k/hr (1 fov/day) He'd be better off solo'ing EMs

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cream Soda View Post
    Lol that's 1.5k/hr (1 fov/day) He'd be better off solo'ing EMs
    You have to take into account, he is posting about being un-motivated to the point he is considering leaving himself Map'd. Solo'ing EMs < FoV in terms of laziness.

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    Link to Salvage mob rename pack please (one with maps, mob names etc).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Severance View Post
    Link to Salvage mob rename pack please (one with maps, mob names etc).

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    Step one: Search
    Step two: Type "Salvage dats" (I know, so hard to think of, right?)
    Step three: http://www.manafont.org/blog/salvage-dats-rehosted


    BAM

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    Can Marquis Sabnock be soloed by SCH? If not, will BLU work?

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