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  1. #481
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    Quote Originally Posted by SathFenrir View Post
    5DA 5Zerk should be bravura only imo.
    4DA/3berserk/3aggressor
    Horrible, horrible, umph.

    Alright, piece of logic here. If you do just as much Berserk as Aggressor in addition to some DA (say, 4/3/3), you're making these assumptions:

    - DA beats -10s Aggressor and Berserk, but only up until 4 DA. The 5th DA will be worse than -10s Aggressor and Berserk.
    - Berserk is exactly equal to Aggressor.

    Both of these statements are fairly ridiculous, don't you agree? And Sath, what does Bravura have to do with it? A 6-hit Bravura doesn't give more ACC than a 6-hit Perdu if you're using Aurum cuirass. And with pizza+1 accuracy usually isn't an issue anyway.

    For me, I found 5 DA (roughly 5% more damage done) and Berserk (roughly 1.2% more damage done) to beat Aggressor (less than 1% damage done if the hitrate even applies). If you want the math behind it ask me.

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    I guess you're right about that. no Aggressor merits makes me :\ though

  3. #483
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    What Organs for Gorgets can I solo on NIN/DNC? Mules don't have sea ; ;

  4. #484
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jakson View Post
    What Organs for Gorgets can I solo on NIN/DNC? Mules don't have sea ; ;
    All organs but Yovra. Not sure how you will fair fighting multiple xzomits, though, so someone to sleep babies and just kill the mother and zone would be nice there. But maybe they are not an issue for you.

    On the category 1 warrior merits, I'd do (and did) 5 DA, 5 Berkerk, I think it was a pretty clear choice when all the maths were done.

  5. #485
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    Store TP concern.

    How much store TP is needed to keep a 6 hit as war/nin. How much is needed as war/sam and how much would u need to still keep 6 hit with only landing 2 hits on KJ or RR. Ty for the replys just confirming if i'm right or wrong.

  6. #486
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    Did just nobody click my link or something? It has some pretty specific math :/

  7. #487
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    WAR/NIN needs +21 STP to keep a 6-hit with a 504 GA, which is not worth it (Rose Strap, White Tathlum, Aurum Cuirass, Rajas, Brutal, Chiv Chain, Ecphoria Ring = 21).

    WAR/SAM needs +6 STP to get a 6-hit with only landing 2 hits of KJ or RR with a 504 GA (Rajas, Brutal).
    FLOOR(13.7*1.21) = 16.5 TP
    16.5*6 = 99 TP - 5 normal hits and first hit of WS
    99+FLOOR(1*1.21) = 100.2 TP - Plus 1 additional hit, so a 2-hit KJ or RR.

  8. #488
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    For my spellcast. After a raging rush, it's the minimum TP return I need to keep 6 hit with Perdu, Brutal Earring, Rajas ring, /SAM? I'm setting my spellcast to swap in Tathlum after the Raging Rush if I don't have the proper TP return. (And when starting from zero)

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    Quote Originally Posted by DAKPluto View Post
    For my spellcast. After a raging rush, it's the minimum TP return I need to keep 6 hit with Perdu, Brutal Earring, Rajas ring, /SAM? I'm setting my spellcast to swap in Tathlum after the Raging Rush if I don't have the proper TP return. (And when starting from zero)
    Assuming you meant 'what is' instead of 'it is' your answer's 16 tp.

    With brutal/rajas/subsam you get 16.5 tp per hit so one extra hit makes for 6hit.

  10. #490
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    oops, yeah, what is.

    So:

    <if NotTPLT = "17" >
    <action type = "equip" set = "Fighttathlum" />

    Got it (o.o)b thanks.

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    Er, sorry, I misspoke D: max tp needed is 17, 16 is when you don't get a 6hit.

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    I think you answered his question. It's wasteful to switch White Tathlum in though. You might as well switch Ecphoria ring or Chiv Chain in. You lose fewer stats and it still restores your 6-hit.

    To clarify, you only need +7 STP going from 16.5STP to 100TP in 5 hits using a 504 delay GA as WAR/SAM.
    So, you can either use White Tathlum (sacrifice 6 Acc/Atk) or Chiv Chain (Sacrifice 7 Acc from Ancient Torque and gain 3 STR, Sacrifice 1 Acc and ~5 Atk from Fort Torque, or Sacrifice 5 Acc for 3 STR from PCC) or you can use Ecphoria ring (-3 Acc from Toreador's, -1% Haste +4 Acc from Blitz).
    So if you're using Blitz, maybe you want to switch Chiv Chain. Otherwise you should just pop on Ecphoria.

  13. #493
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    There is both an easier and cheaper way to maintain your 6hit should you ever only land 1 hit of RR or miss the first hit or something to that effect.

    /ja hasso -> /ja retaliation -> /ja provoke

    It's not surefire but hey, it keeps you from using chiv chain so it's ok in my book.

  14. #494

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    You're still WSing one hit later than if you equiped sTP incase you missed

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    If you miss 2 swings on RR a mob hitting you once will push you over. I don't understand what you're saying.

  16. #496

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    Oh, right.. mobs give tp per hit <.<

  17. #497
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    Verified by mastercard/visa won't accept my cards. Can I call up SE support to by pass that? If so, what is their number, I can't find on the POL site.

  18. #498
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darlantan View Post
    All organs but Yovra. Not sure how you will fair fighting multiple xzomits, though, so someone to sleep babies and just kill the mother and zone would be nice there. But maybe they are not an issue for you.
    The mother doesn't link with the babies, the babies only link with the mother. So if you kill them fast enough you can kill the babies then the mother. If you're slow, repops will link with the mother that is out. They spawn d/c, and tanking 2 d/c shouldn't really be very hard if you are decently geared though.

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    I wouldnt know, I always just sleepga'ed them, killed the mother, zoned/used vortex and ran back to save time by just shooting for the 100% drop ones. But thanks for the info.

  20. #500
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    Oh, right.. mobs give tp per hit <.<
    Yep, if you retaliate 1 hit with /sam+rajas+brutal you get a 6 hit, 2 for being hit, full TP return for retaliation.

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