Random Question Thread V: But does it 6-hit

[Nitrous24]

Is it possible to reacquire Artifact Armor, while you have the same set stored at the storage NPC?

Yes.

[Arximiro]

Anyone know where I can get an updated Altana View that includes Nyzul wses and Hachiryu/newer gear?

[Onorgul]

I have no idea if there's a thread here on BG that keeps this stuff up-to-date, but the KI thread gets updated regularly: Model Viewer/Altana Viewer/EWH viewer/FFXITOOL UPDATE 29/10/09 - Killing Ifrit - a Final Fantasy community

[Miroku_Asura]

Is it possible to add music to zones that don't have a background theme already? I ask because Purgonurgo Isle needs some calypso music >:3

[Siniroth]

anyone know if it's possible to run XI off a firewire400 drive? my XP partition is tiny and i'm running out of space and i can't resize it <_< can't even download the new patch because it needs about 550MB free space to install.

If you redirect registry files to the drive, and make sure drive always has same letter (if you move it around a lot), I believe you can make it run off any portable harddrive type thing

[Siniroth]

Very vague question I know but:

Which will probably kick out more dmg vs Kirin in an oldschool kited fight: RNG or BLM?

I hate asking such a vague question but assume the player has 'solid' gear for each job. If they come rng they would get brd songs.

My fairly undergeared (but not terrible by any stretch) rng always tops out at our kirins over the blms (and anyone else) but I'm also that guy who ignores hate and decided if I pull hate I get to kite for a while, I tend to die a few times per kirin, so it's not the best gauge of which would do more... I'd have to say rng with brd songs for sure though

[Cream Soda]

Chaneque POS?

[The_OG_Nelta]

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e2...113_001501.jpg

Any idea?

[Cream Soda]

Custom UI after update?

[The_OG_Nelta]

yup

[Cream Soda]

Birdbanes:
http://i34.tinypic.com/242brdv.png

After about 500 hits or so I'll prolly go buy a pair of dmg 14 h2h and compare the melee/crit averages.


Edit:
Destroyers:

Spoiler: show

http://i36.tinypic.com/wjg9r6.png

Birdbanes:

Spoiler: show

http://i37.tinypic.com/30s7z1l.png

[foopy]

i've always used alt+D to fire a Range attack. it no longer works.

well, actually it works just one time each time i log in. which confuses me even more...

example: i log on my char, target moogle, press alt+D and i'll get a "You cannot attack that target." error. i try again and i get no error. i change hotkey via set up, i get no error. (when i say "no error" i mean its as if i haven't done anything at all.)

i've logged on my alt account and get the same exact problem. i can fire a /ra just ONE TIME using alt+D (or any hotkey i assign), then after that very first attempt, pressing the hotkey again does absolutely nothing.

its been happening to me for about 2-3weeks now, and really driving me nuts ><. i've always used alt+D and having to type out /ra is annoying me.

so my actual question: does anyone know how to fix this?

[pchan]

can't conclude to piercing bonus or +DMG until you are sure that fstr and pdif are capped, so try colibri in ronfaure(S) or normal birds ; destroyer crit max is 198 on those conditions.

[Byrthnoth]

So they're piercing. Looks like they're probably better than Destroyers on Birds too.

1.25*(35+14) = 61.25
2*61.25/(384/60) = 19.14 DPS

35+18 = 53
2*53/(348/60) = 17.5 DPS

Kicks are the same between the two, so after that it's 3 Acc vs. 6% Crit Hit rate. Birdbanes will pick up advantage the more STR you add, though it loses it a little if you're capping Destroyer's fSTR due to the difference in caps.


Edit:
pchan, look at his max Crit with Birdbanes on. It's over the theoretical cap for Destroyers.

[arshesney]

i've always used alt+D to fire a Range attack. it no longer works.

well, actually it works just one time each time i log in. which confuses me even more...

example: i log on my char, target moogle, press alt+D and i'll get a "You cannot attack that target." error. i try again and i get no error. i change hotkey via set up, i get no error. (when i say "no error" i mean its as if i haven't done anything at all.)

i've logged on my alt account and get the same exact problem. i can fire a /ra just ONE TIME using alt+D (or any hotkey i assign), then after that very first attempt, pressing the hotkey again does absolutely nothing.

its been happening to me for about 2-3weeks now, and really driving me nuts ><. i've always used alt+D and having to type out /ra is annoying me.

so my actual question: does anyone know how to fix this?

Happened to me too, seems spellcast messing with shortcuts.
Just open your init.txt file and add "bind !d input /ra <t>" at the end, problem solved.

(Without having to restart game you can type "//bind !d input /ra <t>" in game)

[pchan]

Edit:
pchan, look at his max Crit with Birdbanes on. It's over the theoretical cap for Destroyers.

I understand that, but I found wierd that his fstr/pdif was not capped. To be 100% sure we would need max crit, max melee on weak mobs.

with capped fstr&pdif, destroyers will crit for 198 max (floor(3.15*(35+18+10)) while birdbanes should crit for 182 ( floor(3.15*(35+14+10))=182, so with piercing that's 227 damage max +/- depending on when rounding happens. Anyway for my understanding about the weapon, if it's 25% boost on birds :

With full usu you cap fstr on both, I assume also raja and brutal for a total of 19 store TP.

Both weapon have different WS frequency due to different delays (TP return), If you take the method used in the spharai/faith thread, you'll see that we are in the samish situation as delay 84 is about the same as delay 86. Therefore, Destroyers will need ~8 round for 100+ TP on average and Birdbanes will need ~7. So we can deduce the global DPS :

melee dps
easy one

destro : (35+18+10)/348*60=10.86
birdbanes : (35+14+10)/384*60=9.22

assume 450 attack, dia3, bird level 7 with 325 def :
1.26 pdif normal and 2.26 crit
Assume 10% base crit
assume ~2.0 attacks per round (2.15 with capped acc, so i'll give room for uncapped one)



destroyers = 10.86*(0.84*1.26+0.16*2.26)*2=30.84 damage per second
bird banes = 9.22*(0.90*1.26+0.10*2.26)*2=25.07 and withh piercing, that's 31.35 damage per second

(totally neglecting kicks and the +3 acc)

average WS

assume +14 dmg from WSC, +18.75% att from boost, +50 attack from gear swap :
1.76 pdif for non crit
assume 95% acc on WS

destroyers : 8*(35+18+10+14)*1.76*0.95=1030
birdbanes : 8*(35+14+9+14)*1.76*0.95=963

Asuran fists dps


destro : 1030 damage every 348*8 delay so 1030/(8*348)*60=22.2
birdbanes : 963/(7*384)*60=21.5

global DPS

destro : 30.84+22.2=53.04
bird banes : 31.35+21.5=52.85

They look about equal without the +3 acc. If the 3 acc let you go from 90% to 91.5% that's
53.04 vs 53.73



They look better than destroyers to me, all the more that you will have more attack and less if you can cap acc with destroyers.

[Despain]

Time to get me a pair of birdbanes... holy crap x.x;

[Onorgul]

If they parse right alongside Destroyers on paper, there's really not a lot of compelling reason to get them just for killing Greater Colibri. And I'm totally not saying this because I want the competition to die down until after get a pair.

[Byrthnoth]

Haha, depending upon your take on Subtle Blow (Hades Sainti) they could be pro vs. Archaic Machinery in Salvage too. (Well, gear/gears. I don't think chariots are piercing weak)

Also, pchan Birdbanes are a D14 weapon so their max fSTR is 9 unlike Destroyer's 10. Minor difference, but still 1 base damage.

Also also, good job catching that Asuran will still be blunt. I forgot fo'sho!

Also also also, yay for finally have a comparison to do where we can use Birds as a model and not be oversimplifying.

Also also also also, I wish they'd made them D15. Then the fSTR caps would be the same.

[Starr]

So your probably better using KJ most of the time? Having a look at my gear the ideal set I could make would have 120-129, depending on how long getting heca cap and adaberk would take.

No, not necessarily, best thing to do would be to just parse the best sets you can make for each WS against each other with about a sample size of 100 with the same buffs and decide from there rather than ask other people how well you would do personally.