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  1. #1481
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shinryuu View Post
    If you're fighting something and you're on the hatelist, but not on top, and that something casts an aoe on the guy with the most hate, and you get hit too, does it lower your enmity?
    I am going to say yes.

    But that's not based on any testing, just from logic and how it 'seems' to work while playing the game.

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    What's a workable strat for Byakko these days? It's a long time since I went anywhere near that cat, and all the strats I see date from 2004.

    Doable with 12 players including BRD, RDM, PLD, and damage from BLM/RNG/SMN? Thanks.

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    Doable with a competent six-person party(in a party setting, I prefer dual NIN/DRK tanking with PDT kits). Doable with three RDM who know what they're doing(probably two, but nothing I'd risk without seeing it done).

    EDIT: Strat is nothing special, stick a BRD and WHM on support duty, damage him with whatever you'd like. BLM and SMN will both worth fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnightjade View Post
    What's a workable strat for Byakko these days? It's a long time since I went anywhere near that cat, and all the strats I see date from 2004.

    Doable with 12 players including BRD, RDM, PLD, and damage from BLM/RNG/SMN? Thanks.
    RDM/NIN RDM/NIN RDM/NIN done

    For a more traditional setup that retards could pull off:

    PLD/NIN PLD/NIN BRD/BLM RDM/DRK WHM/SCH BLM/RDM and atone it to death

    If you have NIN/DRK tanks, they're safer, but that means you need seperate players doing damage.

    You really don't need more than 6 if people are the least bit competent, not particularly hard to cut lower than that either. If you're adding more people, use dd that feed less tp since it has no natural regain and shitty plds will eat the floor relatively quickly.

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    Most importantly, regardless of what you use to tank him, make sure they understand that relying on Utsusemi is not acceptable, especially in with very few people. They're going to get hit, and they need to be prepared for it.

  6. #1486
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnightjade View Post
    What's a workable strat for Byakko these days? It's a long time since I went anywhere near that cat, and all the strats I see date from 2004.

    Doable with 12 players including BRD, RDM, PLD, and damage from BLM/RNG/SMN? Thanks.
    Smallest i've personally done this with was pld pld whm rdm/drk blm brd, melee thf. Stunners are really nice on this, as well as eseal elegy if you can. He's really evasive so pld atonement damage is pretty crap.

  7. #1487
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    On the topic of Byakko. Recently finished BLU sub and have a -44% PDT set on RDM. Without def food, but fully buffed (by my own spells, i.e. no songs) I was hanging around 420 defense and took on average 100 dmg from Genbu per hit. I'm guessing with Minne's and food I could bring it down to 60-70. My question: given the above setup, how does trying to solo tank Byakko on RDM compare to going with two PLD/NIN's bouncing hate?

    I'm thinking:
    RDM/BLU is safer because it's simpler. Reasoning: it would eliminate the reliance on good hate balance/player skill.
    PLD/NIN x2 absorbs more damage costing less MP, increasing the durability of your healer(s).

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    You can solo-tank it with RDM/NIN better than RDM/BLU. From my experience, though, its better to just perform most(if not all) actions in your PDT equipment. You've got a pretty high chance of getting smacked around without shadows at any point due to TA, so you may as well be ready to eat damage at all times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsuko_Asura View Post
    You've got a pretty high chance of getting smacked around without shadows at any point due to TA, so you may as well be ready to eat damage at all times.
    This. I've died on PLD/NIN before in the span of a Ni cast, courtesy of Diaga > TA > Razor Fang.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Korremar View Post
    This. I've died on PLD/NIN before in the span of a Ni cast, courtesy of Diaga > TA > Razor Fang.
    Didn't mention it in my post but this is one of those fights where you'll want carbonara unless your tanks and stunners have a really good feel for the fight. It's not required, but it does give a greater margin of error for the situation described above.

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    Quote Originally Posted by homerun View Post
    Didn't mention it in my post but this is one of those fights where you'll want carbonara unless your tanks and stunners have a really good feel for the fight. It's not required, but it does give a greater margin of error for the situation described above.
    Pescatora. Defense > 25 hp.

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    Anyone knows what's Tatsumaki Sitagoromo .dat for Elvaan male?

    That thing looks ugly on my rdm / blm so I wanna change it!
    thx ^^

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    225/21,Tatsumaki Sitagoromo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thorny View Post
    Pescatora. Defense > 25 hp.
    I never had any issues using just tacos. I experimented with sushi for a while, never died, but I felt way less safe.

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    KB & Straight Tanking

    I've heard rumours that some people actually staright tank KB instead of kiting him, was just wondering if there's any truth to this or not.

    If there is truth to it, what is the general strat? Do you use Sam's as your main form of damage? Do they Store TP and spam Gekko when he starts casting Meteor? Or is a variety of DD ok? Would they Store TP and only WS when he's casting Meteor? Or can the DD just spam WS as fast as they build TP? How much healing power would be needed?

    Just generally curious, so any info would be appreciated.

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    I just started working on MMM again, for the first time since the nerf on marble making, what should i do to make marbles now?

    Heres a list of the runes/Tabula/Vouchers i Have

    Tabula:
    M01
    M03

    Vouchers:
    01 :Sanitization Team
    07 :Liquidation Team

    Runes:
    001 : Aquan
    002 : Amorph
    003 : Bird
    010 : Demon
    011 : Dragon
    018 : Might
    020 : Peon
    040 : Altered Defense
    042 : Healing Magic
    100 : Trial By Velocity
    101 : Trial By Budget
    102 : Trial By Numbers
    103 : Amnesiacs Trial
    104 : Trial By Silence
    106 : Guidance Contract
    109 : Sustenance Contract

    Edit: Also i have 60 marbles Currently

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    I'd recommend either buying V05 or V06 to earn marbles they give better run, and though strats are bit complex for them compared to others.

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    Which RNG Artifact pieces are worth getting, other than hands and legs? Assume it's being burned to 75, so no regular exping for me. Also, are there any AF+1s I should look into?

    Thanks.

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    This will probably come back to bite me in the ass, but is there an easy way to skill up Enhancing magic? There isn't a beseiged so I can't spam Protect 4 on guards and etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Karbuncle View Post
    You know i just got to thinking, i remember hearing Damage Taken -X% in Physical and magical cap at -50%.

    We already know Avatars have -50% DMG Taken naturally, its their well, thing. so, does the stuff from the expansions with "Pet: DMG Taken-10%" bring Avatars to -60% or are they still capped?

    just a question that popped into my head, came from me noticing SMN wasn't on Shepherd's Chain, though BST,DRG and PUP are (amongst other wtf jobs)
    Nothing on this? sorry just really curious =<

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