Random Question Thread V: But does it 6-hit

[Kinetic]

I read on the otherwiki that SAM with a few polearm merits can solo Pulling the Plug ENM. Do you sub WAR, NIN, or DNC for that? It doesn't say.

I'd think maybe /WAR with meds, but I was wondering if /DNC with minimal meds was viable.

Thanks.


Edit: nvm, search function ftw. I'll be trying this soon.

[evilpaul]

What's the proc rate on Recycle on the Frugal Mantle?

[Lone]

At what haste%# will rune chopper become less effective the perdu?

The average war should be floating around 19-20%? But if that war had a Vbelt and hit 21-22% would rune chopper still push ahead of the typical perdu build?

What if they had dusk feet +1 as well? I'm curious as to what the cut off point would be to where rune chopper is no longer worth using.

[Shinryuu]

At 22% vs. 26% RC still easily wins.

[Dooom]

At what haste%# will rune chopper become less effective the perdu?

The average war should be floating around 19-20%? But if that war had a Vbelt and hit 21-22% would rune chopper still push ahead of the typical perdu build?

What if they had dusk feet +1 as well? I'm curious as to what the cut off point would be to where rune chopper is no longer worth using.

You seem to be implying that the rune chopper build would have "excess haste". If that's the case, surely you'd swap out haste pieces to other things without haste, so you're getting more attack/acc/whatever, while still keeping gear haste capped? So it seems a redundant question to me, unless I'm totally off the mark.

[Furionstormrage]

Yeah I use RC on WAR a lot, and I don't go over 26% total Haste including RC's 9% because it's just a waste. If you're over 26%, drop something with Haste on it for more ACC/Attack/something relevant.

[Wolfknight]

Right, because /RDM uses a lot of shadows.

And to Kyte, I operated without it for over 3 years. Npnp.

PLD/RDM because infinitely more useful with Ethereal. The ability to effectively blood tank most HNMs is so much easier.

Except there a very few HNMs where you're better off bloodtanking on /rdm then being /nin and spamming atonement to kill faster, bar DI I can't think of any. Also a lot of plds always "idle" in ethereal even on /nin with shadows up.
Plus hollow is extremely useful for a lot of DD jobs, and really ethereal for pld/rdm likely isn't even to average to 1 mp/tic, since you have so much stuff to reduce damage.

[Lone]

You seem to be implying that the rune chopper build would have "excess haste". If that's the case, surely you'd swap out haste pieces to other things without haste, so you're getting more attack/acc/whatever, while still keeping gear haste capped? So it seems a redundant question to me, unless I'm totally off the mark.

I just meant that with enough gil/luck a war could hit a large amount of haste without rune chopper. dusk feet+1/turban/velo/haidate/blitz/dusk hands would be 23%, which would make the advantage of rune chopper less then 3%. I was just asking if a warrior had access to this gear would a set built for rune chopper still come ahead of the above build using perdu?

[Shinryuu]

Well, Perdu is 9 DMG ahead, and that's 36 STR you'd have to get to match Perdu's DMG. Unrealistic in many ways (not in the least because you might well be fSTR-capped way before that +36). Determining an exact cutoff is quite hard and depends wildly on your gear etc. Example time:

In merits, my RC gear doesn't really shine since I'm capped on dDEX and ACC w/o anything special. Therefore, haste-wise, I only replace dusk hands with tarasque mitts +1. Weak tradeoff. I don't have dusk+1 or velicious so RC is still by far my best merit weapon, keep in mind it'll probably be the best w/ those too. Other example of how it can be much better:

Say you're uncapped at every stat indefinitely (besides haste, of course). A theoretical RC build that is very fucking strong, bolding the pieces you wouldn't normally use:

RC/Pole/_/Bomblet
Askar/Ancient/Brutal/Hollow
Adaman Hauberk/Hachiryu Kote/Rajas Ring
Cuchulain's/Velocious/Byakko's/Aurum

Bolded Aurum because it might be the case that for non-RC, Dusk+1 might be a bit better, in which case RC benefits from Aurum's ACC, DEX and ATK. If Aurum > Dusk+1 for the non-RC disregard that slot, of course.

[Avé]

Can I garden exclusively from a rent-a-room if I have pots in my layout at home?

[ferigor]

Can I garden exclusively from a rent-a-room if I have pots in my layout at home?

Yep.

[Cream Soda]

Evasion helps, especially since you won't have Signet bonus on a fair number of them, and I'm of the opinion that /Ninja is better than /Dancer for them. Assuming your gear is up to snuff, there's no reason a Monk can't handle basic Tough mobs. Meltdown can be easily outrun, especially since Monk doesn't have Dusk to weigh you down.

I thought he meant Aura Statues at first. Was going to say he'd need a boss ass chakra build, but yea, groundskeepers aren't bad at all.

[Falaras]

As far as Great Axes go, how do Rune Chopper and Fortitude Axe stand against Perdu Voulge?
Edit: lol I just realized theres already rune chopper talk on this page.

[Tsuko_Asura]

As far as Great Axes go, how do Rune Chopper and Fortitude Axe stand against Perdu Voulge?

If you can meet the latent(with a competent red mage, I don't see why you shouldn't), Rune Chopper should destroy both of them.

Rune -> Fort -> Perdu, in terms of damage dealt(though you may want to double-check on Fort, I feel like their may have been some evidence to the contrary recently.. Could be wrong)

[Tsuko_Asura]

Right, because /RDM uses a lot of shadows.

And to Kyte, I operated without it for over 3 years. Npnp.

PLD/RDM because infinitely more useful with Ethereal. The ability to effectively blood tank most HNMs is so much easier.

Except that blood-tanking anything you can damage is absolutely idiotic

[ZhiGaruda]

Except that blood-tanking anything you can damage is absolutely idiotic

Or, it can be used to add a little bit of fun to a scene that is going on 6 years old.

PLD/NIN'ing the same mobs, year after year, got quite boring. Showing up to a day 9 Nidhogg as the only PLD /anon, and letting your alliance know you are /RDM only after you've got claim can really spice things up!

PLD/RDM at Cerberus was also a lot of fun.

[Varaha]

Can someone sketch out how to set up a Rune Chopper build for me? I'd heard/read it was kind of meh, but I easily have the gear to cap haste with it, and people on this thread are saying its the best option for war. I guess I'm just curious how/if you gear for MP. How much haste from support is required for it to be better than perdu or fortitude?

[seiji]

Say you're uncapped at every stat indefinitely (besides haste, of course). A theoretical RC build that is very fucking strong, bolding the pieces you wouldn't normally use:

RC/Pole/_/Bomblet
Askar/Ancient/Brutal/Hollow
Adaman Hauberk/Hachiryu Kote/Rajas Ring
Cuchulain's/Velocious/Byakko's/Aurum

0mp, would sux if no mp merit/food

[Lagunasa]

Is there a way to jump off Parradamo Tor toget back to the tarutaru ENM NPC faster? I have been doing this enm with my friend for a while but I have yet to figure out if there is a shorter way to get back to the start

[Dramafinderftw]

Or, it can be used to add a little bit of fun to a scene that is going on 6 years old.

PLD/NIN'ing the same mobs, year after year, got quite boring. Showing up to a day 9 Nidhogg as the only PLD /anon, and letting your alliance know you are /RDM only after you've got claim can really spice things up!

PLD/RDM at Cerberus was also a lot of fun.

PLD/RDM Khimaira go and then tell me about fun