Random Question Thread V: But does it 6-hit

[Raen Ryong]

It basically depends on how much MDT and such you already have. I can't name any slots offhand you will want to take MDB over MDT in when not capping and presuming you have a decent magic def set.

[Kyte]

I was partly curious because I see a lot of people using Iron Ram over other slots that have MDT who have otherwise uncapped MDT (even assuming capped Shellra V) and wanted to know if they were doinitrite.

[kyosak]

Kinda depends what you use it for, if it's mostly a merit job I'd take the Polearm. I'd actually probably take it either way, 8 attack isn't going to make or break anything on Y/G/K and you should be getting enough Acc in most situations you'd use GKT in from gear/food. The merits will have a larger relative boost to your polearm output than another 4 GKT would to that output.

Yeah I was kind of leaning towards that decision. Gonna feel weird taking off GKT merits, lol. Capped polearm merits, go!

[fredjanx]

seeing as how my LS should fight JoJ soon....
Can a setup of: 2 PLDs (decent gear each), 3 blms (good gear each), 2 whms with average gear, 2 rdms (lacking relic hat but not bad gear everywhere else), a smn (i don't recall his gear, but doesn't have YYR), a SAM, a DRG, a BRD, and a SCH beat him?

[Thorny]

Justice(6, comfortable margin of error, good gear/merits expected but relics not required):
RDM/NIN
BRD/WHM
BLM/SCH
BLM/SCH
SAM/NIN
SAM/NIN

Keep slow and elegy on at all times. Sams should DD tank it as if it were a bigger merit mob, if they get charmed then sleep them. On occasion, both will be charmed before the first SAM's charm wears, in which case the RDM should be highest on hate list and easily capable of holding it due to NIN sub. BLMs alternate AM2ing pets, using the halved MP cost stratagem exclusively.. it should be up for nearly all nukes. BRD keeps march x2 on sams, ballad x2 on mages, rdm refreshes blms and hastes sams, hurf durf. Not a very hard fight.

With your extra resources, I would recommend RDM BRD SCH DD DD DD main party and a several BLM + refresher add party. Honestly, PLD is a severely outdated job for anything besides PW or AV :X

[Despain]

With your extra resources, I would recommend RDM BRD SCH DD DD DD main party and a several BLM + refresher add party. Honestly, PLD is a severely outdated job for anything besides PW or AV :X

Truer words have never been spoken.

[Tsuko_Asura]

Negative, only first and those connected to it I believe (eg if Trip procs on first hit).

Only exceptions are Tachi: Enpi and Sturmwind, both hits on those weapon skills are guaranteed with a successful SA

[Raen Ryong]

Yeah, and that's very strange. Normally I find the WS formulae to be very consistent (such as acc/pdif boosts being exclusive to the first hit [or so we think], which also has the unique fTP term) but this breaks that consistency. I wonder why?

[Kyte]

Truer words have never been spoken.

Atonement says "sup?"

[Despain]

Lol? Pretty sure the point Thorny was trying to make is that you don't need a PLD for almost anything in this game besides PW and AV. How does Atonement have anything to do with that statement?

EDIT: And DI, though I've never fought DI, so I can't really comment on that.

[Thorny]

Atonement says "sup?"

Anything you're tanking on PLD in full homam to spam atonement(ie: unnecessary to idle in shield skill and defensive crap) could be tanked equally well by a SAM. Gekko > Atonement, 6hit GK > joyeuse in both tp over time and tp given to mob. Go away.

[Cairthenn]

Atonement says "sup?"

Oh my god, your 720 damage weaponskill is so amazing! Tell me more, tell me more!

[Despain]

Fuck you guys. You can't beat anything in this game without Atonement.

[Yugl]

Fuck you guys. You can't beat anything in this game without Atonement.

It's true. If you hurt one of SE's monsters, you will pay!

[Tsuko_Asura]

Oh my god, your 720 damage weaponskill is so amazing! Tell me more, tell me more!

..Like does he have a car?

[Furionstormrage]

..Like does he have a car?

Tell me more, tell me more. Did you get very far?

[Raen Ryong]

And to think that some people are still clamouring for a new tank job. Specialised tank jobs are unnecessary these days, certainly additional to Paladin as it is now.

[Kyte]

I'm not a PLD. I don't give a fuck about PLD. But to say that PLD is only good on two monsters is fucking retarded.

[Cairthenn]

Oh no, we're not saying it's not good, just that it's bad.

Get your facts straight, brah.

[Thorny]

I'm not a PLD. I don't give a fuck about PLD. But to say that PLD is only good on two monsters is fucking retarded.

Anything you're tanking on PLD in full homam to spam atonement(ie: unnecessary to idle in shield skill and defensive crap) could be tanked equally well by a SAM. Gekko > Atonement, 6hit GK > joyeuse in both tp over time and tp given to mob. Go away.