Random Question Thread V: But does it 6-hit

[The_OG_Nelta]

Can I make Plasticsurgeon load a random race(Except elvaan) everytime I log on?

Also whats a good program to switch weapon and gear looks?

[Souj]

Ive been trying to find out what ZNMs I can solo as rdm, but I can't really find much helpful info on ffxiclopedia. tried using the search on this site for some info, but "znm" was too short to use.
was wondering if anyone knew of anywhere that had info on what, how and which ZNMs can be solod.
Only one Ive solo'd so far had been the marid, and I'm assuming I can solo the apkullu as well.

[Yugl]

http://www.bluegartr.com/forum/showthread.php?t=66441

There ya go.

[Souj]

http://www.bluegartr.com/forum/showthread.php?t=66441

There ya go.

thanks. that was fast. Did I do a terrible fail or did you have that book marked or something?

[Wolfknight]

Anything you're tanking on PLD in full homam to spam atonement(ie: unnecessary to idle in shield skill and defensive crap) could be tanked equally well by a SAM. Gekko > Atonement, 6hit GK > joyeuse in both tp over time and tp given to mob. Go away.

Bullshit for a number of reasons, while for a lot of mobs yes sam can work, but saying ALL is stupid, and it depends a lot more on player's skill, support/healers in party and gear then compared to pld, and doesn't mean they're going to hold hate nearly as well as a pld would. Also sam has few bad cons will ussually take more support since no self curing, more difficult to get shadows back-up if down, and less hate generation if required to cast shadows a lot since it depends on ws for hate.

Also for stuff MMM NMs where will one shot a sam with some TP moves if they catch you with shadows down even in a -phy% set; while a pld hit with the same move has a good chance of living off of a block, sure sam can do it, but it's much tougher on the tank, I've done it on both, and I wouldn't go play sam for that role again ever on MMM, the extra damage isn't worth the defensive advantage for that assuming you're tanking it.

You said anything where pld can idle in DD gear and atonement spam to tank can be done by a sam, so I'd like to a see a or two sam main tank "The Blood-Bathed Crown" since I see no way a sam could hope to regain hate after Veil of chaos does it's hate reset, and amnesia, or Splitting Heirs since 2x pld can afford engage and atonement, while 2x sam I can't see being manage hate with much shadow casting done ussually, and sam would be killed by shoulder charge, while pld again has a decent chance to live.

[Feedmenow]

I don't know about other PLDs, but I keep a shield+ gear set around even if I plan to use my haste gear set incase both shadows are down, or for casting Ichi. Do tanking SAMs normally get pummeled at this time, or does Seigan + Third Eye usually save them?

[Wolfknight]

I don't know about other PLDs, but I keep a shield+ gear set around even if I plan to use my haste gear set incase both shadows are down, or for casting Ichi. Do tanking SAMs normally get pummeled at this time, or does Seigan + Third Eye usually save them?

Depends on the mob, but ussually in past on sam I have to rely on getting right timing, using TE w/o seigan[unless it's a mob seigan is viable on ie no, or few TP moves wipe TE] to block one hit while casting ichi, or stuck getting hit in -dmg% til Ni is up. Which is major reason for me preferring pld for this since shield blocking makes it much easier.

[The_OG_Nelta]

When I change my ally for Campaign, does everything get restarted ?

[Thorny]

Bullshit for a number of reasons, while for a lot of mobs yes sam can work, but saying ALL is stupid, and it depends a lot more on player's skill, support/healers in party and gear then compared to pld, and doesn't mean they're going to hold hate nearly as well as a pld would. Also sam has few bad cons will ussually take more support since no self curing, more difficult to get shadows back-up if down, and less hate generation if required to cast shadows a lot since it depends on ws for hate.

blahblah anecdotal garbage.. are you really implying that shield blocks beat third eye for getting shadows up?

Also for stuff MMM NMs where will one shot a sam with some TP moves if they catch you with shadows down even in a -phy% set; while a pld hit with the same move has a good chance of living off of a block, sure sam can do it, but it's much tougher on the tank, I've done it on both, and I wouldn't go play sam for that role again ever on MMM, the extra damage isn't worth the defensive advantage for that assuming you're tanking it.

A pld counting on a block to survive something is dead if they don't block. A job using a strong PDT- set to survive is going to live or not, but it'll generally be the same outcome every time the move is used. This is besides the fact that BLM is always going to be the best MMM 'tank'.

You said anything where pld can idle in DD gear and atonement spam to tank can be done by a sam, so I'd like to a see a or two sam main tank "The Blood-Bathed Crown" since I see no way a sam could hope to regain hate after Veil of chaos does it's hate reset, and amnesia

So another damage dealer gets hate and tanks it, omg? Shit doesn't even double attack iirc, it's not hard to tank.

or Splitting Heirs since 2x pld can afford engage and atonement, while 2x sam I can't see being manage hate with much shadow casting done ussually, and sam would be killed by shoulder charge, while pld again has a decent chance to live.

Blah, blah, blah. No shield block in shield skill gear = dead, good PDT set = alive.

PLD is usable in many situations, and often an efficient way to get things done, especially with subpar players as it requires very little to function. It is NOT the most efficient tank for 95% of what people use it for. While I'm sure there are other things that I'm not thinking of atm, I'd only say it's the best tank for PW and arguably AV.

[Hegarty]

What about Lambton worm? Obviously SW KA needs a designated tank that can generate hate through spells/curing.

[Dramafinderftw]

What about Lambton worm? Obviously SW KA needs a designated tank that can generate hate through spells/curing.

both can be tanked by RDM or NIN very well, SW KA is a joke for a good RDM.

[Eldelphia]

When I change my ally for Campaign, does everything get restarted ?

What do you mean? The first time you change alliance to another nation you don't lose anything. No campaign ranks, an etc. Obviously with the missions it depends on what you've done already. if you want to change back to your original nation, you don't lose AN but you lose 2 campaign medals.

Essentially you get to try each nation once for free, after than, you just lose 2 medals.

[The_OG_Nelta]

What do you mean? The first time you change alliance to another nation you don't lose anything. No campaign ranks, an etc. Obviously with the missions it depends on what you've done already. if you want to change back to your original nation, you don't lose AN but you lose 2 campaign medals.

Essentially you get to try each nation once for free, after than, you just lose 2 medals.

I'm at windy right now, never switched, just wondering what exactly I have to do to switch nations.

[Demosthenes11]

i heard there was stupid in this thread so I had to come.

using pld allows lowmanning things 100% better. Sam isn't going to solo tank tia or khim or faf or anything that matters. stop being stupid and assuming full alliances for everything

[Fottiti]

You said anything where pld can idle in DD gear and atonement spam to tank can be done by a sam, so I'd like to a see a or two sam main tank "The Blood-Bathed Crown" since I see no way a sam could hope to regain hate after Veil of chaos does it's hate reset, and amnesia, or Splitting Heirs since 2x pld can afford engage and atonement, while 2x sam I can't see being manage hate with much shadow casting done ussually, and sam would be killed by shoulder charge, while pld again has a decent chance to live.

Blood-Bathed Crown is a terrible example because tanks should be standing apart so they don't both get hit by Veil of chaos, sure you can be engaged while you do it but its not an example of a typical engaged fight. Nevermind the fact it has permanent flash on its aura which just further invalidates it as an example. Splitting Heirs is perfectly tankable by 2 sams and its better to fulltime PDT gear, but again another poor example due to the fact that if you are straight tanking it you are making the fight 10x more difficult than it needs to be.

Aspid would have been a far better example as its unlikely a sam will be able to maintain hate while its in its shell.

Faf, Nid, Jailers excluding Love and Fortitude, Tiamat, Sky gods, Omega/Ultima, Sandworm in all forms except KA, Odin, Tier 4 ZNMs are all perfectly tankable by Sam/nin and in many cases its ok to sub /war.


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i heard there was stupid in this thread so I had to come.

using pld allows lowmanning things 100% better. Sam isn't going to solo tank tia or khim or faf or anything that matters. stop being stupid and assuming full alliances for everything

If you're solo tanking tiamat then your pld would be much better off not engaging because it will then either kill people or require sleeping every roar and therefore isn't relevant to the point. Faf can EASILY be solo tanked by sam/war let alone sam/nin. Again Khim is probably easier to solo tank without engaging if a non-excal pld is doing it (atonement damage is halved and if you're that stuck for people feeding it large amounts of tp isn't a good idea), that said a sam can solo tank it, and do it about as well as a solo engaged pld could.

[Cream Soda]

Does anyone have a dat list for status icons? I want to switch them around and give certain ones distinguished looks, so that I can recognize them right away. (For example, when a Colibri casts Elegy on me.

[Dooom]

When is conserve mp from gear calculated in a spell? At the time it starts casting (like fast cast), or when it finishes (like haste)?

[Massimo]

When it finishes <_<

[Despain]

I don't know much about SAM tanking, but when I quoted Thorny, I guess I should have explained that I've yet to tank something on NIN/DRK that I wasn't able to tank and didn't need a PLD for. I've tanked a lot of shit, save Dark Ixion, which apparently NIN can't tank.

I also have PLD leveled, which I never use because I prefer NIN/DRK over PLD any day.

[Hyriu]

save Dark Ixion, which apparently NIN can't tank.

really...

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