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  1. #2001
    Official Nannyman of Nikkei's Harem
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    Don't let them work you up, man. You're done with them, find a new legion. Don't let their bullshit poison your fun.

  2. #2002
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    There's a good word to describe them, bads.

  3. #2003
    Relic Horn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkdreamer View Post
    she thinks dispell is a waste of mp.
    Man, this alone ensured that, as long as I had my cleric leveled, I would never get to play on anything else for anything. It's ridiculous that clerics are so common and so many of them are this stupid. I actually had groups frequently kick the cleric and ask me to switch to mine if they knew about it because the cleric was so bad.

    It's not rocket science, but so many people just can't get it right.

  4. #2004
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drex View Post
    Man, this alone ensured that, as long as I had my cleric leveled, I would never get to play on anything else for anything. It's ridiculous that clerics are so common and so many of them are this stupid. I actually had groups frequently kick the cleric and ask me to switch to mine if they knew about it because the cleric was so bad.

    It's not rocket science, but so many people just can't get it right.
    But healing is so hard without addons! All I know how to do is fill cups ><;;

  5. #2005
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    So yet another fun filled update/extension on my last few posts. One of the leaders of the legion comes on and goes on about how we need to act like a legion blah blah blah and goes onto the subject of Vent. Basically people tend to afk on vent and go to work, sleep, etc. And they go to another channel and people can go down there if they need them, otherwise they're left alone. So the leader says that people need to put in their comment if they're afk and if they're not afk they all have to be in the same primary channel. The only exception is if they're running an instance but as soon as they're done they need to get back to the main channel.

    So my wife gets onto vent yesterday and gives her cleric friend a wake up shout on vent (apparently too cheap to buy a decent working alarm? I dunno). The cleric has in his comment that he's sleeping. My wife puts a comment that she's afk but for the cleric or her sm friend to shout on vent for her when they wake up/get on she will be around the house. At this time in the morning everyone is afk/asleep in the main room for whatever reason.

    So my wife steps away from the computer for a few minutes and comes back later to read the bitch cleric changed her comment from just afk to "AFK in the main room with the rest of my legion mates".

    So how to solve vent bullshit without creating more arguements for no apparent reason while still being able to talk with people we care to speak with. The fastest and easiest solution. Create my own vent. So a couple bucks later we now have our own channel so I don't have to hear anymore random bullshit. If anyone comes on that thinks they can mouth off I will ban.

    Of course now there will no doubt be bullshit thrown around about how the three are being antisocial and not logging onto vent or some crap. Whatever, as soon as those whopping 8 people do something as a legion is the day somebody can start caring.

  6. #2006
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    blew 20m on fail rng, 10->12->6= sad Tonks

    FML

    i left my g13 at my parents house, ordered another, being delivered to my apartment cuz i cant play w/o one (its too awesome) so I figured Id just waste some cash, school got canceled today which rocks since i got an exam tomoro RL = win, Aion = FAIL, $^%&^#$ U MONEY-SINK BULL#&^

  7. #2007
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    3 Fabled Felicitous Socketing Supplements for $9.99
    1 Fabled Felicitous Socketing Supplement for $3.99
    3 Eternal Felicitous Socketing Supplements for $11.99
    1 Eternal Felicitous Socketing Supplement for $4.99
    Yay NCSoft, give us a bullshit mechanic like manastone socketing, and as a fix for it, we can pay NCSoft 4-5 dollars to guarantee success on 1 manastone.

    Besides that, items that give an advantage in-game like this should not be in the cash shop. Being wealthy irl should not translate into a huge in-game advantage.

  8. #2008
    Ridill
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    NCsoft must be out of touch. that made me curious so did a search to see how much kinah is going for. can buy (lol) 30m for like 13$. You get more socketing benefit out of buying 30m kinah then paying 10-14$ to have a 100% chance on 3 sockets

  9. #2009
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    It's a convenience thing. Plus, Korea loves doing things like that. One of my friends who works for the NA branch got dressed down for posting on the forums that she sympathized with players in the manastone system.

  10. #2010
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    This isn't a real in game advantage since just spending in game money will give the same result, it just saves time.

    I agree that the whole manastone enchantment stone thing not having an in game way to never fail is BS though. It's why I have all white stones in my gear.

  11. #2011
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    With the same logic, would buying kinah not be considered a real in-game advantage since farming that kinah would give the same result, but just saves time?

    How about this:

    Player A and Player B have a 6 slot piece of abyss gear to socket with attack +5s (or crit +17s, Magic resist +14s, or insert other expensive stone here). Player A does it without socketing supplements and goes through 50 stones (normal for 6 slot gear) and spends 70 mil. Player B uses 100% socketing supplements on the final 2 slots, and only uses 20 stones (normal for 4 slot gear), and only spends 28 mil. Player B saves 42 million kinah because he paid NCSoft RL cash to (mostly) bypass a terrible in-game mechanic. Apply this logic to a full set of gear, and the guy spending RL money on socketing supplements would expect to save over 200 mil in comparison to the guy who is socketing without them. Seems like a pretty big advantage to me, and is legitimate since it is NCSoft themselves providing it.

  12. #2012
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    It's definitely an advantage, but everyone has an advantage some way whether it's time, cash, support, whatever.

  13. #2013
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    damn eternal gear breaks that much? D: Never had that bad of luck w/ fabled stuff

  14. #2014
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    Quote Originally Posted by Katlan View Post
    damn eternal gear breaks that much? D: Never had that bad of luck w/ fabled stuff
    Its just RNG. I've had eternal gear break 100+ stones on once piece, then turn around and go 6/6 on the next piece.

  15. #2015
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    Buying Cash is only an issue because of its versatility. If you buy Kinah you have the ability to buy gear, to buy manastones, enchantment stones, pay people to help you, etc.

    If you buy these supplements you get to not waste kinah on slotting stuff. It's the narrowness of this that makes it less of an issue to me. It's still not a good thing, but it's nowhere near bad enough to piss me off.

    Also if you're around, they're giving 3 of these supplements this week as part of the 2yr anniversary.

  16. #2016
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    Fuck enchanting weapons over +10, seriously... was so bitter last night.

    had a bunch of L80 stones saved up from DEing random stuff. Got my Miragents bow easily to +10 w/ only failing once along the way. I had to buy L80x3 (5m each) stones in order to get it all the way to +10. I also had in reserve 2 L81 and 1 L85 stone. Buy a few more L80 stones to get it to +12. Break a handful.. keep trying. 40m later I finally get it to +12 and I now use my L81x2 stones. got it to +14 and am so excited since my L85 stone could not fail me.

    It failed me D: L85 stone is worth 10m and I wish I sold it and just left my bow at +14. Fuck that shit

    Then I was super pissed and bought 2 more L80 stones and got my bow to +12. not touching it again lol. 60m+ gone, fuck

  17. #2017
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    For a gold weapon the success rate caps at +28 levels. So if you're using anything over 78 for Miragents it will be the same result.

  18. #2018
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    wish i knew that earlier QQ. coulda sold that 85 stone

    Should have asked here before doing all that. +12 miragents is a beast. especially once I get 35k more AP for the lv 40 fabled pvp weapon (not the great weapon merchant, from the regular merchant since the greater is almost 200k more AP and only gives +100 acc extra)

  19. #2019
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    After spending well over 2 billion to get my 50e armor all to +15, I'm pretty sure that the success rate formula past 10 is basically the same where you still cap your success rate on a stone thats 28 higher for a gold, but the success cap is much lower (around 50-60% as opposed to 80%). Basically, I'd use the same stones as you would for a +0-10 attempt and just hope you get lucky.

    For a long time I was using low-mid 80s for my attempts which was very costly, then found that using mid 70s were working just as effectively when I was expecting them to fail far too much to be worth using.

  20. #2020
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    For eternal the magic number is +44 if I recall correctly. One of the game guide people told me. Apparently some German website also has an accurate calculator for it, or so I'm told.

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