Aion: Random Complaint Thread.

[Priran]

How am I mad? You're the one who constantly brings up a NM and cries about not having it.

Getting upset enough every time I post about Zapiel to try to start an argument is a pretty strong indicator that u mad.

p.s.
http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/1...5899308295.jpg

That wasn't the point of my post. I wasn't comparing the bosses themselves, he basically made a claim that we had a lot more bosses in heiron which I debunked.

You didn't debunk anything. Heiron gets a lot more HNMs and, as an aside, those HNMs all have drops that are miles above anything that drops from an Asmodian HNM.

That list is a load of crap, like half of those "hero" mobs are just city guards.

Off the top of my head, heiron has:

3 HNMs in Storm Circle
2 Kerub HNMs
Gojira
The Monkey that fights Gojira

Beluslan has:
Alukina
Masto
2 Water Spirits that drop shitty jewelry
Dugolle, whose only worthwhile drop is a crafting mat

[Pooky]

Getting upset enough every time I post about Zapiel to try to start an argument is a pretty strong indicator that u mad.

p.s.

So because Elyos gets a NM that has a chance to drop a weapon that benefits one class in the game, and is only good for two levels, that makes it Easy Mode?

[Trichocyst]

And Storm Circle is practically Asmo wonderland.

[Priran]

elyos have an easier time from the second they enter eltnen. krall, rift placement, quests, world bosses, whatever. their only legitimate complaint, that it was hard for them to get into draupnir, is gone now that they get a dimensional corridor that they can glide to without aggroing a thing once they complete hokuna matata.

there's a reason elyos are in the lead on all but one server. the only hard part about elyos is staring at a desert for 30 levels.

And Storm Circle is practically Asmo wonderland.

I haven't been back to Storm Circle since I finished the Betoni's Quests. It's useful if you like hugging guards I guess, but if you're rifting to gain AP then that puts you on an incredibly short leash.

[Hitoshura]

You seem to be missing the point, the fact is elyos get more rare spawns/heroes that drop a lot more golds than we could ever wish for. Just one name could sum it up, Bollvig Blackheart.

[Gryffes]

lolwat.

Bollvig loot is trash. gtfo.

[Hitoshura]

Awesome, you are only proving my point. Pretty much telling me that you have much better golds to hunt for, albeit those drops being LV50. Oh well, I guess living in Adma Stronghold won't be so bad.

[Gryffes]

Awesome, you are only proving my point. Pretty much telling me that you have much better golds to hunt for, albeit those drops being LV50. Oh well, I guess living in Adma Stronghold won't be so bad.

So which bollvig weapon should I be using over my blue expeditionary weapon?

None of the bodies even have flight speed.


[x]gtfo.
[x]bollvig loot is for extracting stones

[Priran]

Bollvig's dagger and sword are decent.

Elyos get all of the methods Asmodians have for acquiring a gold flight speed body, plus the Krall Grand Chieftain and Zapiel. (the armor that drops from the Grand Chieftain of the mau has Flight Time instead)

[Fayttt]

You can't even kill Grand Chieftain if you have a 50 in the raid. . .Does he even really count as an HNM? lol

[Pyree]

Most servers have a higher percentage of their asmo population in the high levels than elyos. Add this to the fact that most servers have slightly more asmos than elyos, and it means there are more asmos in the higher level ranges than there are elyos. This makes me question how it can be SO MUCH HARDER TO LEVEL AS ASMO, if they're generally higher level than elyos. Are they that much more hardcore than us? It also makes me wonder how asmos blow in the abyss on all servers, since they do have a level advantage...

[Pooky]

elyos have an easier time from the second they enter eltnen. krall, rift placement, quests, world bosses, whatever. their only legitimate complaint, that it was hard for them to get into draupnir, is gone now that they get a dimensional corridor that they can glide to without aggroing a thing once they complete hokuna matata.

there's a reason elyos are in the lead on all but one server. the only hard part about elyos is staring at a desert for 30 levels.


I haven't been back to Storm Circle since I finished the Betoni's Quests. It's useful if you like hugging guards I guess, but if you're rifting to gain AP then that puts you on an incredibly short leash.

Eltnen is only decent from 20-23, as there is no other option. Krall is only good for the 40 DP skill quest, and the krall molar quests (which asmos have equivalents). Rifts are garbage for both factions, spy quests aren't worth doing and you cant rift into Theobomos or equivalent. Quests are worthless, you can grind faster exp on most classes (inb4 "OP SM"). World bosses have equivalents up to Hieron, but Hieron bosses are a complete joke (Hi there)

The reason why Elyos are ahead is because for the most part we sit down and grind instead of running around and circlejerking (abyss/rift ganking).

[Priran]

The reason why Elyos are ahead is because for the most part we sit down and grind instead of running around and circlejerking (abyss/rift ganking).

that's cute

also, only <the faction I don't play> hugs guards and runs away from fights like cowards!!!!1

attribute whatever virtue you want to people who made the same decision as you, it makes no difference. there is no admission exam to roll an elyos, so the distribution of good and bad players on each side should be such that each faction is decidedly average. all other things being equal, the faction that should be ahead is the one with the most players (see: Lastok in FFXI). Since Asmos actually have the population advantage on most servers last I checked, it can then be assumed that the game is weighed heavily against them.

[Pyree]

Eh, was going to post a rebuttal, but not worth my time. Priran's arguments look ridiculous to anyone but himself, so my time wouldn't be justified either. But don't get me wrong, please keep crying, I could drink Priran tears all day.

[Greenjade]

I hate it when people assume that everything in AION is one sided. Apparently we Elyos have a shit ton of cheats and hacks to help us level faster! And that is the reason why we're dominating in the Abyss on Ariel. No, the fact is a lot of the lower tier Asmo legions bitched and complained that XoXo was hogging all the fortresses and blah blah blah that they threw up such a huge stink that XoXo stopped caring about the Abyss.

Bleh.

And Pyree give Irksom and Alosa a hug for me. Tell em that Kymira is now Canens. >.>

[Priran]

Eh, was going to post a rebuttal, but not worth my time. Priran's arguments look ridiculous to anyone but himself, so my time wouldn't be justified either. But don't get me wrong, please keep crying, I could drink Priran tears all day.

What will we do without you to make shit up and treat it as fact? Did you even look at the server information on Aiononline? On every single server I cared to look at, level range distribution was practically identical with maybe a 1% difference in one bracket or another.

But please, grace us with another detailed explanation of a legitimate argument. How is it Asmodians are more or less equal in level but getting wrecked on all servers but Triniel? Maybe black wings attract worse players? Elyos players are chosen by God?

I get the feeling that critical thinking might be asking a little too much. When you think it's possible that thousands of people were faced with a choice between two things whose ostensible differences are purely cosmetic, and everyone who wanted to "sit down and grind" all coincidentally picked one race and everyone who was interested in "running around and circlejerking (abyss/rift ganking)" coincidentally all picked the other, you might have huffed a little too much duster.

[Pyree]

gurl plz lol

[Priran]

http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/2238/defaultu.jpg
i'm gonna bop you one girl

[LurkaKitty]

Red Mane is such a maze. I spent like 10 minutes trying to figure out how to get to an entrance/exit that went to, or even in the direction of where I wanted to go.

[Pyree]

Did you even look at the server information on Aiononline? On every single server I cared to look at ...

I looked at all of the NA servers, not a select few as you admit you have. Here, let's just use a mixture of the lowest level gap aiononline server statistics display and your logic that seems to produce lots of Priran tears.

Let's compare the Lv 10-20 level range between elyos and asmos on ALL servers, conveniently right here for you! ♥

Ariel [Elyos: 66 ][Asmo: 64 ]
Azphel [Elyos: 57 ][Asmo: 55 ]
Fregion [Elyos: 75 ][Asmo: 70 ]
Israphel [Elyos: 64 ][Asmo: 61 ]
Kaisinel [Elyos: 68 ][Asmo: 66 ]
Lumiel [Elyos: 64 ][Asmo: 60 ]
Marchutan [Elyos: 66 ][Asmo: 62 ]
Meslamtaeda [Elyos: 74 ][Asmo: 71 ]
Nezekan [Elyos: 63 ][Asmo: 60 ]
Siel [Elyos: 62 ][Asmo: 58 ]
Triniel [Elyos: 57 ][Asmo: 55 ]
Vaizel [Elyos: 63 ][Asmo: 60 ]
Yustiel [Elyos: 69 ][Asmo: 65 ]
Zikel [Elyos: 59 ][Asmo: 55 ]

Sure, the numbers only differ by a maximum of 5%, but notice the trend that Elyos has a higher percentage of people in the Lv10-20 bracket on EVERY server? Not a single server sways from this.

So are you suggesting that it's possible that thousands of people who were faced with a choice between two things whose ostensible differences are purely cosmetic, as you say, and everyone that somehow manages to level quicker than most chose one race and everyone that levels slower than most chose the other? Because it sounds like you would support that!

If leveling on both sides was completely equal, you would ideally see uniformly many servers where elyos are slightly ahead as you would where asmos are slightly ahead, but this is not the case. There is not even a single server where that is the case when you look at the data above.

So if anything, it looks to me like leveling as asmo is easier, if you take some time to look at the actual data and less time analyzing how you think things should be working given the game design. Why would you ignore the researched outcome, which is clearly visible, and base your judgments of equality off your predictions? Genius!

I get the feeling that critical thinking might be asking a little too much. When you think it's possible that thousands of people were faced with a choice between two things whose ostensible differences are purely cosmetic, and everyone who wanted to "sit down and grind" all coincidentally picked one race and everyone who was interested in "running around and circlejerking (abyss/rift ganking)" coincidentally all picked the other, you might have huffed a little too much duster.

Were you still talking to me here? It sounds like you were trying to make me feel stupid with the first sentence, but then all the shit you said after that to back it up was nothing I ever said. If you would've wanted some credibility in your argument, you should've directed this at Pooky, but as it stands this is completely arbitrary and doesn't add anything to your points.

I hope this post has quenched your thirst for my detailed explanations of legitimate arguments. In exchange, I only ask for a few drops of your tears so I can have enough to share with my family and friends. How could I keep something so great to myself? I simply have to share!