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  1. #961
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    Miragent's is too much keke dirtfarming for me, rather do 10000 DP runs or something than force myself through that shit.

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    Elitist attitude spawning already for an MMO that hasn't even been out for 3 months.

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    I must not see the "elitist attitude" on this one. All that's being said is the games boring at 50, crafting sucks (various reasons), and pvp encourage zergs/cowardice. I miss anything?

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    I haven't seen much elitism. Not anywhere near how much there was in FFXI. Rangers never get chastised for not having Focused Shots, it's like "omg you have focused shots?!" when they do. Same goes for other expensive stigmas, gear, whatever.

    About the most I've ever seen is everyone thinking they know how to heal. But that's every MMO ever.

  5. #965
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    I don't have an issue with the PvP. It's always been setup as a war. That is, two factions fighting against each other. Why wouldn't people be ganging up or sneakily killing people? That's what people do in wars.
    I agree, if 1v1 PvP is your thing, then aside from duelling or the arena, Aion probably isn't your game. However, I don't ever remember seeing NCSoft advertise it as anything other than a war.

    I'm not trying to flame people for their opinions before anyone gets bent out of shape. Personally, I don't mind it. I certainly think there are areas they can improve, but like one poster above me stated, it's a very young game.
    Of course, I am nowhere near 50 yet, so I will not comment on the bad experiences you guys are having up at the top.

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    My only complaint is that the amount of abyss points you could potentially lose at higher ranks discouraged any PvP. Why risk losing a ton of AP PvPing when you can farm mobs and hump guard towers when things get hairy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Inactive View Post
    My only complaint is that the amount of abyss points you could potentially lose at higher ranks discouraged any PvP. Why risk losing a ton of AP PvPing when you can farm mobs and hump guard towers when things get hairy.
    Fair point. Hopefully that's one of the issues they'll address in the near future.

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    giving you all of 60 seconds' warning that the server is about to shut down

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    I worry about the people who actually enjoy Aion's (or any MMO's) PvP. Tolerate it? Sure. But.. enjoy it? Brag about ganking? They enjoy acting like coward trash? There's no way to play honorably and come out on top. You have to play like a pussy-ass thug. There's just no room for skill in MMOs so everything comes down to random luck or how low you're willing to let your dignity sink for a kill.

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    Oh, and random fucking server-down when I'm leveling my fucking alt, fuck you amateur Twattering college interns running NCWest, get real servers ffs. I haven't rubberbanded in anything else since like 2001.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kerberoz View Post
    Oh, and random fucking server-down when I'm leveling my fucking alt, fuck you amateur Twattering college interns running NCWest, get real servers ffs. I haven't rubberbanded in anything else since like 2001.

    This soo much. Plus the f'in delays I get when fighting during flight, never(well hardly) happens in non-flying areas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Priran View Post
    giving you all of 60 seconds' warning that the server is about to shut down
    qft

  13. #973
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    Aion's pvp is bad for so many reasons, even by MMOs standards. It makes me wonder what people are thinking when they try to rationalize the lack of PvE content by calling it a PvP focused game.

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    I kind of looked back on my post and thought maybe I was a bit too harsh on the game, but it is still boring for me and I can probably not seeing myself carrying on with it (especially if my 6th heart fails to crit in the next week or so)

    There is a lot to do, we kind of reeled it off yesterday on vent whilst talking about what we could there is;

    Draupnir Caves, Theobomos Labs, like 5 fortress instances if your server has them capped, blahblah blah, the list goes on, but unfortunately and this is where I think the massive mistake could be, there are only 2 gear sets that are any fucking good in this game, you either get the miragents set, or the anuharts set, everything else really is poor in comparison (maybe the 50 pvp set but yeah good luck getting full set of that anytime soon and it is even more of a snooze then the rest).

    We asked in Legion if anyone would want to do Draupnir Caves, all of the level 50's first response was, "why do Draupnir Caves, the loot there is shit and I don't get upgrades anymore apart from the un killable boss" it is kind of sad when a game has more to do but people don't even want to see the content because x loot is better or x instance has better drops.

    There is no starter gear needed you don’t need to progress in order to do the harder stuff, as long as you have some kind of attack speed weapon, and have half a brain you can clear Poeta A rank everyday, so why would you go to those instances to try and get drops? what’s the point when the gear from the end instance over shadows it by so much, or you are one of the lucky fucks who crits their heart first time. I also hate how every piece of gear slot is always itemized the same,

    “Yo I got the sick earrings”
    “Lemme guess Crit and HP??” (or for the mage hp and magic boost)

    It just seems like laziness in the design from a gear perspective, and I know this is a game based around solely PVP, but why the fuck does all of the gear you got from PVE have to have PVP stats on, Flight time/speed + isn’t doing shit for me in this instance so why put it on the gear I get from there?

    Even when you run Dark Poeta, it is all just tank and spank, there is nothing epic about it you just run in, do the same on just about every boss (except the beetle things) come out and rinse and repeat the next day. Even on my first run I thought it was boring by the end and couldn't wait to get out, it would be nice if there was something else to do, move out of fire, don't go behind Tahabata/Calindi or you get 1 shot etc, its little things like that that make it seem harder (but it isn't) but you know in the back of your head if you fuck up you going to know about, other then Hack N' Slash untill the loot finally drops. It is the small things that give you the thrill of playing a game, and i don't think Aion has ever done that for me.

    It would be nice to have to watch out for something else have something else you need to worry about other then when the boss is doing "AoE that will hurt you move" and even when you do get hit by one of these AoE moves, I think I can only recall one (trees in DP) that have actually ever killed me when it has gone through. The rest you don't even need to bother about and can just pot.

    Oh yeah and a new complaint, fuck the hit box in this game on other players, flying as a melee is the most retarded fucked up thing ever in any game i have ever played. I'm an assassin, i don't wanna have to use a bow when the only other option whilst in flight combat is hope i can kill someone in the one 2 second stun i can use while flying reliably. Which will never work because by the time server side lag has happened they are out of the stun before you even get close.

    Well that was a longer post then I expected TLDR;

    Aion is a good game with nice aspects when you start out, but really can you see it making you stay around anytime in the future? I can't unfortunately with the current content that is out and the way the pvp is at the moment.

  15. #975
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrSamuels View Post

    We asked in Legion if anyone would want to do Draupnir Caves, all of the level 50's first response was, "why do Draupnir Caves, the loot there is shit and I don't get upgrades anymore apart from the un killable boss" it is kind of sad when a game has more to do but people don't even want to see the content because x loot is better or x instance has better drops.
    DC sucks. You cleared alot of trash mobs to boss ( yeah, we are level 50, totally care about exp ) for a manastone or some garbage green drops. And then move on to the next bosses and so on. Of course, you gonna go all the way to the final boss just to get roflstomped and warped out of DC and call it a good day.

    Theo Lab is not any better. Long fucking instance, shit tons of trash mobs for 2 bosses which gonna drop nothing. I did Theo Lab twice ( around 3-4 hours ) for some green garbage.

    Since AION is still new, im gonna compare it to FFXI Rise of Zilfart. Sky gods were generous and always drop something for you to look forward ( Kirin Pop items ). Gods can drop craft items, abj and their weapons/armors ( very useful ). Sky was not in conflict with 3 Kings ( 3 hours camping suck but it spawns alot of forum drama and other entertaining stuffs ). Also, it also allows to dedicate crafters making decent money to support their crafting addictions.

    In Aion, just pve for the Miragent set, and yeah you may need expert a craft for the quest. Hot heart of magic/expert test is just a mask for their lack of pve content in AION.

    PvP in Aion is garbage. Everyone is just running to their nearest guard and taunting their superior pvp skill. I got hot headed today and rambo a lvl 46 cleric in Storm Circle which did nothing but running around while the mobs are beating on me. I lost a healthy 500 AP for my death as a rank 1. I reached Rank 1 officer today. I am not going to Abyss unless i came in full group because i have little to gain but alot to lose. All my AP points from now on gonna be coming from Dark Poeta, Fort Instance, and Dredgion.

  16. #976
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    To get away from the pvp/endgame discussions, fuck retarded price undercutters. I can understand putting a slightly lower price so yours sells first, that is how it works. But you don't fucking take something selling for 1.5 and start posting your shit up for 1.1 and think you have dones something smart. I even quizzed the guy on it, his response was 'idc, i just want more money to try for HQ again.' Hello asshole, selling for 1.4 would have still got you the sale AND been 300k closer to your goal for another...

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    Fix aerial combat or take that shit out permanently somehow, everybody has no reason to support the current system for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elites View Post
    Fix aerial combat or take that shit out permanently somehow, everybody has no reason to support the current system for it.
    aerial combat servers one purpose... to make killing melee's & SMN's easier

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katlan View Post
    aerial combat servers one purpose... to make killing melee's & SMN's easier
    Because killing melees is such a challenge.



    Pvp will change as more people hit cap, it's not going to be like this forever.

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    Just getting from 39 to 40. Want to grind? Randomly quest? Catch up on campaigns? Too bad, Heiron is crawling with the enemy. I'd almost feel safer in the abyss. I could join a KHQ group but if I don't want to wait around my options are killing my soul.

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