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  1. #1001
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    I give up trying for expert handicrafting. Did it really have to be a fucking bow? Why don't I make you some fucking jewelry? Maybe then I wouldn't have to eat so much shit on mats. 0/7 on the first recipe. 800k loss per NQ. Gathered about 1800 logs at the cost of my soul. I can't even afford to get to the expensive part anymore. Fuck it.

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    Yeah, Expert Handicrafting made one of the 50 rangers in my legion reroll. A GM wouldn't help him quit the expert exam and he had spent like 70 mil on it.

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    Oh man and Handicraft was gonna be my second craft. That is seriously making me rethink that. ><

    Right now, I have cooking and guess I'll stick to it. The expert quest for cooking is not all that painful. I hope. ><

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    DP need drop item that only applicable to our entry classes

    seeing SM parts over and over in a non SM party is pretty sad

    its like seeing BST/PUP AF in dynamis

    well except SM in aion is the shit

    fear/fear shriek ftw own them all in dredgion

    and fu balaur blood stain costing 450k per in zikel asmo

    i dont usually QQ much but make fenris pants easier pls!!! XD

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trichocyst View Post
    I give up trying for expert handicrafting. Did it really have to be a fucking bow? Why don't I make you some fucking jewelry? Maybe then I wouldn't have to eat so much shit on mats. 0/7 on the first recipe. 800k loss per NQ. Gathered about 1800 logs at the cost of my soul. I can't even afford to get to the expensive part anymore. Fuck it.
    0/7? That's nothing. A legion mate went 1/51 on expert weapon. Yes I'm serious, 51 tries to get expert.

    Weapon synths blow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pooky View Post
    0/7? That's nothing. A legion mate went 1/51 on expert weapon. Yes I'm serious, 51 tries to get expert.

    Weapon synths blow.
    Cosidering it takes far more logs than ore, no, WS doesn't blow nearly as much. Plus WS can be done patiently. I found a nice little aggro free area of Theo that had 7 nodes all within a close distance of each other as well.

    Sell off some of the ore to idiots on the AH and it'll pay vendor mat costs for ingots, then NPC the NQ weapons back to offset flux prices. Granted I realize you can do that with HC as well, but WS isn't as bad from the ore/log perspective. It's either insanely more time consuming or expensive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Akucaen View Post
    Cosidering it takes far more logs than ore, no, WS doesn't blow nearly as much. Plus WS can be done patiently. I found a nice little aggro free area of Theo that had 7 nodes all within a close distance of each other as well.

    Sell off some of the ore to idiots on the AH and it'll pay vendor mat costs for ingots, then NPC the NQ weapons back to offset flux prices. Granted I realize you can do that with HC as well, but WS isn't as bad from the ore/log perspective. It's either insanely more time consuming or expensive.
    Unless I'm missing something (or really misreading database) how is 130 logs more than 220 ore per attempt at a green? And how is 7 attempts (green > blue) "harder" or more expensive than 51?

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    trying to get my friends from wow to come play aion, 2 bought the game and got to lvl 12 b4 they wrote it off and went back to wow. wow has spoiled MMO players with its free epics just for showing up and quests that dont require any thinking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by booly View Post
    trying to get my friends from wow to come play aion, 2 bought the game and got to lvl 12 b4 they wrote it off and went back to wow. wow has spoiled MMO players with its free epics just for showing up and quests that dont require any thinking.
    A Korean grindfest is not the best place to bring people into to get them away from WoW. Most ppl dont have the stomach to just grind grind grind all day, especially when they can go back to WoW and hit max lvl in a week lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pooky View Post
    Unless I'm missing something (or really misreading database) how is 130 logs more than 220 ore per attempt at a green? And how is 7 attempts (green > blue) "harder" or more expensive than 51?
    one durable asvata bow (or the elyos equivalent) is actually 274 logs.

    each bow also takes like 200k more in vendor mats.

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    I'm reading the database wrong too apparently. I'm coming up way short on log requirements even with your reduced number pooky. Anyway, on Azphel orichalcium ore isn't that bad, it's almost half the Ulmus log cost last time I checked. As for the gathering part, as I mentioned I found a safe area with 21 ore per pass, whereas Trich had been telling me about his trouble finding any "safe" lumber spots at all. Factor in the vendor mat cost (which is noticeably higher, esp over time,) and I think WS has it easy in comparison. Your friend had really shitty luck, sure, but I don't feel that makes WS any harder. HQ past DP on that close a synth is pure luck anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Akucaen View Post
    I'm reading the database wrong too apparently. I'm coming up way short on log requirements even with your reduced number pooky. Anyway, on Azphel orichalcium ore isn't that bad, it's almost half the Ulmus log cost last time I checked. As for the gathering part, as I mentioned I found a safe area with 21 ore per pass, whereas Trich had been telling me about his trouble finding any "safe" lumber spots at all. Factor in the vendor mat cost (which is noticeably higher, esp over time,) and I think WS has it easy in comparison. Your friend had really shitty luck, sure, but I don't feel that makes WS any harder. HQ past DP on that close a synth is pure luck anyway.
    Ah forgive me, didn't expand a recipie; using database on my phone blows; it's 54 more logs than ore per attempt.

    Please note however that I never claimed that WS was harder (you're the one mentioning "difficulty") I simply stated that 7 failed attempts is nothing compared to 50.

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    Your exact quote was also "Weapon smiths blow." I was just trying to highlight (at least on my server) that it's not nearly as bad as HC in some ways. ;\

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    Quote Originally Posted by Akucaen View Post
    Your exact quote was also "Weapon smiths blow." I was just trying to highlight (at least on my server) that it's not nearly as bad as HC in some ways. ;\
    Really?

    Quote Originally Posted by Pooky View Post
    Weapon synths blow.

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    Research diary pages for the first xenophon quest

    Been here over 2 and a half hours, 4 people needed all 3 pages, still have two people that need a page each and it's the same page for both.....fucking medics

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    7 tries isn't so bad compared to some, but it's wiped me out. Logs are 3k a piece (274 needed, correct, though it's more like 350k in vendor mats IIRC) each. Gathering logs is stressful. It's a gauntlet of 48-50 aggressive mobs (Calydon Village). Or I can go to Heiron which is constantly camped by this mother fucker and other fuckers like him. A level 40 gladiator largely on his own has no answers. And it's the bitch thread. So I'm bitching. ;p

    Also jewelry is the same exact pattern. Synth 1 for HQ, use HQ for synth 2, use HQ for synth 3. It would just mean not having to compete with weaponsmiths for flux as well as it being a huge pain in the balls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pooky View Post
    Really?
    smithing/synthing. Same goddamn thing in this context. Weaponsmithing!=Weapon smiths

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    Quote Originally Posted by Akucaen View Post
    smithing/synthing. Same goddamn thing in this context. Weaponsmithing!=Weapon smiths
    Not really.

    Weaponsmithing is a Profession. A Weapon Synth is the actual creation of the weapon, be it Sword, Bow, Orb, Dagger, ect.

    Alchemy, Handicrafting, and Weaponsmithing all have Weapon Synths.

    And of course weapon synths blow.

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    Pets can fly, incoming QQ.

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    Sick. Fucking Sweet. Thought I was gonna have to wait until 1.6 Know if they nerfed crash and wing root?

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