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  1. #1161
    Ridill
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fayttt View Post
    Randomly deciding to go ganking at 4-star (lol, i was trying to pass 3rd place person cuz he was 1k ahead of me and I missed dredg, gg) and just yknow, HAPPENING to bump into the most decked out sorc on the server. And pretty much getting raped with a sin with me.
    And then losing 4k ap.
    And going down to 5th place instead of going up to 3rd.
    FFFFFFFFFFFFFFuck this game.
    what was his name?

    Quote Originally Posted by Abandon View Post
    Same as trich. Standing in a fort and getting raped while TALKING TO A GUARD. Seriously, what the hell
    Same shit has happened to me... I afk'd in the very center of like Roah (next to 3 guards) and come back 10 minutes later to see myself dead. I check log and person (glad) hit me 15x before he killed me.. seriously? wtf... When I used to do the guard repeat you couldn't get close w/o the rangers ganking you

  2. #1162
    Ridill
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    Dark Poeta, just before going into gate for last fight....

    Me: Hey guys, I need to afk a moment to bring in groceries.
    5 minutes later...
    Me: You guys realize I can't get in the gate, right?
    Them: You took too long.

    Yeah, because that hour timer still ticking away suggested we were fucked. 2 clerics in the group and I died a dozen times anyway. Can't say I wanna go back anytime soon, but fuck quests there.

  3. #1163
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    When you kill Anuhart, "The Abyss Gate will only remain active for 5 minutes" appears right in the middle of your screen and in your chat log.

  4. #1164
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    Well, it didn't show in my log with how mine's set up, I guess.

  5. #1165
    Asada Shino
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    Quote Originally Posted by Katlan View Post
    what was his name?
    It was Stighl, lol. His para stone proc'ed on me and i got away at 300HP then Toxicshock flew up and finished me off -_-

  6. #1166
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    The whole "any level person will add towards your curse" thing is so annoying. I'm 31 and I generally don't kill anyone under 28 or so unless it's a random 25 in a high level area or a bot. It was especially bad today when I got the curse right after killing a level 35 rng and 34 sorc that were ganging up on me lol

    How long does it usually take to wear off?

  7. #1167
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    Mobs walking across their spawn point and regaining all HP. I don't mean returning to their point because they've lost interest in you. I mean just happening to walk over the spawn point and it giving back their HP.

  8. #1168
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drex View Post
    The whole "any level person will add towards your curse" thing is so annoying. I'm 31 and I generally don't kill anyone under 28 or so unless it's a random 25 in a high level area or a bot. It was especially bad today when I got the curse right after killing a level 35 rng and 34 sorc that were ganging up on me lol

    How long does it usually take to wear off?
    To completely reset, from my experience, you need to spend about 8 hours logged in outside of enemy territory after the curse icon disappears. Time spent logged out doesn't count.

  9. #1169
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    Quote Originally Posted by Corwen View Post
    To completely reset, from my experience, you need to spend about 8 hours logged in outside of enemy territory after the curse icon disappears. Time spent logged out doesn't count.
    I've been pretty bad about killing some lowbies on my 31 ranger but i've never been cursed yet. Usually I hunt for about the length of a kisk and then i'll go do something else for a few hours on another toon/RL and log back in at my secret spot in morheim. Could that be why I don't get cursed? I mean I dont exclusively hunt low people but if I come across one while im running around I dont hesitate to blow them up.

    @Corwen, your posts about your alt were partially the inspiration for me to finish my alts to get 5/5 flash and weap to start blowing ppl up It's been a blast so far~

  10. #1170
    Han Cholo
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    Legion went split today, a lot of my friends went to different directions.

    This blows.

  11. #1171
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    It generally takes me around 300-350 kills of similar level people without leaving asmo land at all before I even see the curse. The "points" towards the curse will decay over time if you're logged in and outside enemy territory. As far as I know, it does not decay at all if logged out, I've logged out cursed for 24 hours and log back in still cursed, and I've logged just after curse wears and log back in the next day, jump through a rift, and end up cursed within a few kills again.

    Yea, its fun as hell doing it, especially once you start stacking a bunch of AP jewelry and can rip through people as high as 10 above you without much problem. I also love the nerd rage I get from some of these people lol. Gonna attempt to get a 211k AP elite dagger but I can just imagine it being a complete bitch to rift from rank 2 on as I'm sure a lot of 50s will want to use me as an easy kill for their kill 10x rank 1/2 quests.

  12. #1172
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    haha speak of the devil, 381 kills and I just got cursed. I was just getting into a groove too.. PVP mechanics in this game kind of blow ;(

  13. #1173
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    pvp mechanics blow cause it takes 300+ kills to get cursed? I like keeping my main close to my alt, so when ppl try to gank my alt I switch rq and own their face. Doesn't matter if its a fully twinked out 35 sin, they all get raped and usually end up running from me if I forget to root before snare. because they just pot and run

  14. #1174
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    Quote Originally Posted by Katlan View Post
    pvp mechanics blow cause it takes 300+ kills to get cursed? I like keeping my main close to my alt, so when ppl try to gank my alt I switch rq and own their face. Doesn't matter if its a fully twinked out 35 sin, they all get raped and usually end up running from me if I forget to root before snare. because they just pot and run
    The whole curse mechanic just blows in general? It's clearly a pvp game. I understand the whole lets protect the lowbies from mass slaughter but the curse doesn't take into consideration all the kills of people who were higher level than you.

    I think a better mechanic would be to incur negative points for killing players lower than you and positive points for killing players your level or higher. So if you have some dick whos clearly just killing lowbies for sport he'll get his curse but a person who is really trying to just PVP legit can work himself out of killing a few lower levels. In the form it's in right now real pvp fans are getting the shaft.

    This coupled with the extreme scale of AP loss as you progress ranks makes real PVP risky and not very fun.

  15. #1175
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    as a lv 35 twink you don't need to worry about pvp loss unless ur cursed and thus ganged up on. Cause only ppl +5 lvs can kill you, and then you barely loos any AP per kill since. Or while we get 1AP per twink kill, do you loss the full effect of AP? Always figured u don't lose AP if killed by ppl +5 over ur lv (or only lose a negligable amount)

  16. #1176
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    Quote Originally Posted by Katlan View Post
    as a lv 35 twink you don't need to worry about pvp loss unless ur cursed and thus ganged up on. Cause only ppl +5 lvs can kill you, and then you barely loos any AP per kill since. Or while we get 1AP per twink kill, do you loss the full effect of AP? Always figured u don't lose AP if killed by ppl +5 over ur lv (or only lose a negligable amount)
    I'm pretty sure i've been losing the full amount about 150ap per death no matter if it was a level 30 or 50 that killed me. I could be wrong but I figured it was just a flat rate depending on your rank.

    http://i899.photobucket.com/albums/a...ssptstable.jpg

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    We had this discussion a while ago, the amount you lose is based on your attacker's level and rank with respect to yours.

  18. #1178
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    According to that chart it says u lose AP when killed by Balaur (and thus asmo npc's)... Is that true? Never paid attention to deaths by balaur because figured it was just free death.

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    Deaths from guards/fort siege mobs (balaur or opposing race) do not cost you any AP or EXP. If you die to standard PvE balaur mobs, it is treated as a PvE death and costs you EXP only.

    And yes, I had posted evidence a while back that clearly indicates that AP loss is determined by level difference. If you get killed by someone 10+ above you, the final AP gain for them and your AP loss is only 1% of the amount shown, so if a bunch of 50s show up to zerg you on your low level twink, it doesn't hurt very much. There is a penalty to AP gained for killing somebody more than 2 levels below you and it follows the same mechanics as PvE EXP does in this regard. http://www.bluegartr.com/forum/showt...57#post3300957

  20. #1180
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    Quote Originally Posted by Katlan View Post
    According to that chart it says u lose AP when killed by Balaur (and thus asmo npc's)... Is that true? Never paid attention to deaths by balaur because figured it was just free death.
    Asmo npc def. do not make you lose any AP. I use it a lot if I need to restock ill return to Eltnen and grab shit.. portal to abyss and run at the guards at west shard and kisk res back to Morheim. No AP loss.. I can't say for sure about Balaur though..

    Quote Originally Posted by Corwen View Post
    Deaths from guards/fort siege mobs (balaur or opposing race) do not cost you any AP or EXP. If you die to standard PvE balaur mobs, it is treated as a PvE death and costs you EXP only.

    And yes, I had posted evidence a while back that clearly indicates that AP loss is determined by level difference. If you get killed by someone 10+ above you, the final AP gain for them and your AP loss is only 1% of the amount shown, so if a bunch of 50s show up to zerg you, it doesn't hurt very much. There is a penalty to AP gained for killing somebody more than 2 levels below you and it follows the same mechanics as PvE EXP does in this regard. http://www.bluegartr.com/forum/showt...57#post3300957
    Hm, interesting.. thanks for the link & the screenshots. That's going to make me feel less inclined to run like a madman when being chased by 50's

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